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Guchi smacked a few that just missed it yesterday to RF and this time he got enough on it to make it 4-0 Good Guys.

QUOTE(Felix @ Jul 23, 2006 -> 12:16 PM) All of you that are tired with Ozzie better be willing to eat your crow later in the year. Wins and Losses don't matter to me when it comes to this...this is something greater that is inexucseable in the baseball world. I don't care if we won 3 world series, these type of antics should not be tolerated.

Greg, not going to get in race discussion so that post was deleted. Ross didn't have the best bunt, but it got the job done. For a second I was thinking oh crap.

Cintron with a nice swing and singles to left with the runner on the run. Nice inside out swing. 1st and 2nd. Gloadie up and hopefully he can get a bunt down again.

An error by Kinsler and the leadoff man is aboard. And I completely agree that Ozz won't be here for long. Ozz with a team that struggles or chokes is a goner. His attitude will be horrific and the team will be hurt by it (I'm talking about a developing ball club). Thats why I want us to keep Razor Shines because I think in time he'll be managing the Sox.

Just wanted to point out that he's starting today's game after getting two games off.

Jon rolls through the 5th after striking out Wilkerson looking on a changeup. Now lets get a few more for Jon. QUOTE(RME JICO @ Jul 23, 2006 -> 12:08 PM) On FSN they showed a 15 second clip, it looked pretty bad as Garland was walking away as Ozzie was yelling at him. Good for Jon. No player should take that type of shots from his manager, especially in the public eye.

QUOTE(Felix @ Jul 23, 2006 -> 12:05 PM) Definitely. The manager who led the team to its first World Series title since 1917 should get removed for yelling at a pitcher who can't complete a simple order. Its not even close to that. There are so many things behind the scenes that its absolutely disgusting. I can't speak of the Garland situation, but NO PLAYER deserved what Tracey got. And yes it matters to protect our players and publicly bereating them is not needed in the majors. If they don't hustle, fine; if htey don't get in a few bunts, give em extra practice, but if they try to hit a guy and miss, I'm sorry you can say hey whats up don't do that again, but to publicly go off on them I got problems. And than when it continues from even that, I got more problems.

QUOTE(tpezz27 @ Jul 23, 2006 -> 12:03 PM) Maybe....just maybe Ozzie was mad Jon threw at him.....Maybe he told him not too....... All you had to do was look at Ozz's reaction, that said it all to me. QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jul 23, 2006 -> 12:03 PM) I haven't really been watching. I've been going back and forth to the kitchen for lunch. Ozzie yelled at Garland? Was it bad? Televised or on the radio? Anyone have a clue what Guillen was saying? Hawk made mention of it, but I sure didn't see it.

I usually like Ozz' over-all plan, but depending on what was said to Jon, the club should have some serious thoughts about removing him as manager. I don't tolerate some things and I honestly think some people are right when Ozzie can really blow things out of proportion and bring things down. Usually when he's doing it he's protecting players and its a good thing, but when he's berating his own for not hitting a guy (when they tried to), well than I have a problem. I don't mind if Ozzie goes over, asks what happens, Jon goes I tried and Guillen goes, next time get em. No need to do anything more than that. Now if Jon just ignored it the whole game, than thats another story.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 23, 2006 -> 12:00 PM) You won't see a manager berate a player in the dugout more than that. At least Ozzie cares more about winning than getting revenge. I understand making a point, but you can't possibly tell me that Jon was trying to not hit Kinsler. Fact is he missed, just like Tracey tried to hit but missed. Stuff happens, get over it. Instead Ozz completely over-reacts and may have just jacked our best starter's magic up (we shall see how he reacts).

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 23, 2006 -> 11:58 AM) I like Gload as a hitter. He's one of the few line drive hitters on this team. However, I just don't think he has a real place on this roster. Dye really seems to be getting owned by Padilla. Ya, he's in a tough spot. Personally speaking I'd probably dump Pods, use Mack a lot in LF and find a RH batter that could also play and than on ocassions I'd have Mack play against tough Righties with BA getting the day off and than that right hander playing left against tough righties. I think that would be more effective than Pods, the only problem is we wouldn't have a leadoff hitter.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jul 23, 2006 -> 11:54 AM) It's amazing how pitchers can hit locations within a 1ft by 1ft box, but yet, can't hit a standing body. I wouldn't suggest retaliation was necessary, but cmon -- it looks even more pathetic if Kinsler is sitting still in the box and fastballs are thrown behind him. I actually think its hard. Your pitching and now you got to take something off and aim somewhere you don't usually aim to. Think of it like when players throw an intentional walk and how much trouble they have. Jon had a convo with Ozzie and I'm dead serious when i say this and I have some other knowledge on the subject, but if Ozzie goes off on Jon thats it, I vote for him to be fired immediately because i Didn't condone what happened to Tracey and I sure as hell wouldn't condone it if he did the same to Jon.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 23, 2006 -> 11:46 AM) It's very nice to see us score without the use of a homer this inning. Good job by Gload/Ozzie to get us a run. Right there is why I'm a big fan of Gload. Gload knows how to handle a bat, is a good contact hitter and can spray the ball to all parts of the fields. He also relatively quick and isn't that horrible of a corner outfielder in a pinch (although we never use him in those parts anymore). And yes, I am and have been for a long time a big Ross Gload supporter because I think he can do all the little things and than some. One note on Padilla, our hitters need to let the ump call the high strike because we have no chance hitting Padilla's fastball when he's getting it right near the letters. Either see if the ump will call it or don't swing. Hopefully more often than not its called a ball and it will force Padilla to start throwing the ball a bit more down in the zone, making him more hittable.

If Ozzie says anything to Jon for missing on two throws...thats it, its over. Jon was trying to and both of his pitches moved out of the way. Inning over but Hawk needs to be quiet. Marsh did exactly what he had to do there. Jon threw two pitches behind Kinsler and we all knew what they meant. If Marsh ignored it than your asking for a player or a bigger situation to arise. Thankfully we have DJ in the booth...its becoming more and more clear just how much Hawk holds back DJ. I like Hawk most of the time, but DJ is so much smarter baseball wise.

1-2-3 First It would be real nice for the offense to set an offensive tone here by either executing for a run or putting together a string of hits.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jul 23, 2006 -> 10:39 AM) Whatever you do, dont cancel the card. If you cancel a credit card almost as soon as you get it it damages your credit score. Your best bet is to call the company and drop the protection so you can fully take advantage of the rewards program. I think I mentioned that in another one of my posts but I think it deserves to be said again. Nuke is dead on on this and cancelling credit is a bad thing, especially if your planning on applying for a major piece of credit anytime soon (House or Car). And remember there is no harm in having a CC and really not using it (as long as it has no yearly fee's or anything like that).

Guaranteed a win today

Its time for the losing ways to come to an end. The Sox will win today

I'm closing this thread, because there is not going to be any need to post in it after today's game. THE WHITE SOX WILL WIN TODAY

Slumps happen and the longer we go into this the harder it is to come out, but as Ozzie eluded to it just takes one game to get the momentum shifted back in the positive direction and in terms of the pitching its been good sans two innings (Buerhle and Vaz each had a bad inning). The offense is really off right now and they are due for a slump, but I just hope it isn't a long term slump and that pretty soon we'll see this team break out on a major run.

Chisoxcentral has had like 10 different names in a few month period or so it seems.

Sweeney left his team and joined the White Sox. Its really strange how they do it, but IIRC they do it because of the weather.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 23, 2006 -> 06:30 AM) Yeah he does, and I think he's just about ready for high A ball. He was a good pick back in the 7th round in last year's draft. One of our better finds. He's got the tools, now its time to see what happens when we push him up a level.

Guchi is going to have to pick Scotty up. Scotty is not a run producer so I was not a fan of having him pinch hit, especially knowing that Mahay is a pretty tough lefty. Even worse you got a lefty in thats going to face Guchi and he struggles vs them. Guchi hammers it to the track but inning over and we wasted an easy opportunity to score a run. This was poor execution by the Sox.