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I spoke too soon. Dodgers take a different high school pitcher, Clayton Kershaw. Since my f***ing radio isn't working, is Tommy doing the draft call like usual?

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 10:10 AM) He's going to start to get expensive soon though, isn't he? This is what his 3 year up, so they still hold onto him for another few years. That said your right, he will start costing them a bit more money, but the Tigers haven't been afraid to spend.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 10:08 AM) miller verlander zumaya wont be fun in 3 years Don't forget Bondy QUOTE(daa84 @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 10:09 AM) 4 of the top 5 college righties....no high schoolers to go yet If Drabek isn't taken early, a high schooler won't go in the top 15.

QUOTE(Cerbaho-WG @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 10:08 AM) Miller at 6. f***ing Tigers, taking another really really top of the line arm.

Any suggestions, I keep getting it to buffer and than nothing on mlb (with either video or radio) yet I have mlb.tv and that has worked fine on IE. Lincoln @ 4

Hochy is selected.

Last second mock of the top 10 from BA: 1. KC--Luke Hochevar 2. Col--Greg Reynolds 3. TB--Evan Longoria 4. Pit--Brad Lincoln 5. Sea--Brandon Morrow 6. Det--Clayton Kershaw (but this is the first possible stop for Andrew Miller, too) 7. LAD--Bryan Morris 8. Cin--Drew Stubbs 9. Bal--Billy Rowell 10. SF--Daniel Bard Is mlb's live draft thing working for anyone yet?

More predraft deals done: 2. Rockies will give Stanford righthander Greg Reynolds $3.25 million 3. Devil Rays will pay Long Beach State third baseman Evan Longoria $3 million 4. Pirates will dole out $2.75 million to Houston righthander Brad Lincoln.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 09:49 AM) So, has the draft even started yet? Can I get a link with updated live picks? (Sorry to fill this thread up with dumb questions) 1st pick is in 9 minutes. Check out mlb.com

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 09:47 AM) I don't know if this has been discussed, but Miller's people are trying to get him to slip to the Cubs, as they know they'll have tons of money to spend on him (they don't have a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round pick). Ya, they want Miller to get major bucks and are really trying to push him to the Cubs.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 09:47 AM) BTW, how long do you get during the pick? not sure on the exact time, but the draft moves insanely fast. I think they take a break after 10 rounds.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 09:39 AM) Out of Beato or Perez who do you like. Perez would be great in the pen for quick to the majors. I just dont like drafting guys who are already in the pen in college. Yes it worked out for Houston Street and Cordero a bit. I am also a fan of the heavy sinker especially with our ballpark. Its not even close, Beato. He is so much better talent wise than Tillman or Perez, but I have my doubts as to whether Beato will be there @ 29. If he is and we pass him for either of the two guys mentioned than I think it would be a mistake (obviously there could be other guys available that are better since who knows what will happen). I merged the thread from the FutureSox forum into this one.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 09:38 AM) Like I said....the Cubs BTW....who does BA project Drabek going to right now? To the Dodgers @ 7

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 09:27 AM) Nope....it sounds like he has some serious problems. The Drabek team has been going out of their way to keep things hush-hush, and I've actually been told to keep things quiet that I've heard from my source. It will be interesting to see how far down he drops. Drabek is going to have to go to the type of team that will just flat out take a chance. He has top 10 talent, but with all the other stuff surrounding him he could drastically fall (even out of the 1st round; although I am hard-pressed to see it happening). A small-to-mid market team will not be taking him. By the way, what do you guys think of me just merging this with the draft thread. That way we can all continue this discussion in the same thread.

Baseball America Has Sox Interested In These 3 Players By Jason Gage FutureSox.com With the draft less than an hour away, Baseball America has released and updated mock draft and apparently the White Sox have shown interest in potentially selecting one of Chris Perez (RHP), Pedro Beato (RHP), and Chris Tillman (RHP). THe Sox hold the 29th overall selection and if available Beato would represent a tremendous value pick. Here are some short scouting reports on each player: RHP Chris Perez (MIAMI) Perez is a junior at the University of Miami who has pitched as a starter and reliever and is now the Canes closer. He was suspended for part of a season after being arrested for Drunk Driving (was not convicted). Perez is 6-4 and has seen his velocity climb into the mid 90's. He mixes his FB (which he has poor control of) with a very good breaking slider thats in the mid 80's. Has had bouts with putting on weight, but he does do a good job repeating his delivery. RHP Pedro Beato (St. Petersburg JC) Beato was originally drafted by the Mets last year in the 17th round. He was a highly touted prospect who fell as he was returning from tommy john surgery (had it during his junior year of high school). Beato came back and found his stuff. Throws a fastball with good sinking action (90) and has been clocked as hard as 96. Mixes that in with a hard slider (mid 80's), curve and a changeup. Beato would need to work on smoothening out his mechanics, but the guy has a big frame (6-5). Chris Tillman, RHP - Fountain Valley High School (CAL) Tillman is a 6-6 pitcher with a big frame thats very projectable. He's comitted to Cal State Fullerton for college and is expected to go as early as the end of the 1st round or as late as the end of the 2nd round. He's a more raw guy who loses his stuff as the game goes on and some wonder if he's just cruising, but he only has 2 picthes at this point and is seeking a 3rd pitch. This is the type of player that is more of a project and a team that takes him would really be projecting him (ie expecting him to really develop). The type of guy that could really benefit from going to a place like Cal State Fullerton. However, scouts like him enough that he'll go early enough to where he'll probably forego college.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 09:28 AM) Beato would be interesting due to his heavy sinker. The only drawback is he is coming from TJ Surgery. Chris Perez was a starter who was changed to a closer after an injury. I dont know anything about Chris Tillman. What kind of stuff does he have. Fastball speed? Tillman throws 90-94, but later in games he has been known to slip into the upper 80's. A team that takes him wouldn't be taking him for what he's done in high school (especially not this year, he was on a bad team though). They would be taking him for his body size and the stuff he ocassionally flashes. A true project and I am not a fan of taking him.

Baseball America Has Sox Interested In These 3 Players By Jason Gage FutureSox.com With the draft less than an hour away, Baseball America has released and updated mock draft and apparently the White Sox have shown interest in potentially selecting one of Chris Perez (RHP), Pedro Beato (RHP), and Chris Tillman (RHP). THe Sox hold the 29th overall selection and if available Beato would represent a tremendous value pick. Here are some short scouting reports on each player: RHP Chris Perez (MIAMI) Perez is a junior at the University of Miami who has pitched as a starter and reliever and is now the Canes closer. He was suspended for part of a season after being arrested for Drunk Driving (was not convicted). Perez is 6-4 and has seen his velocity climb into the mid 90's. He mixes his FB (which he has poor control of) with a very good breaking slider thats in the mid 80's. Has had bouts with putting on weight, but he does do a good job repeating his delivery. RHP Pedro Beato (St. Petersburg JC) Beato was originally drafted by the Mets last year in the 17th round. He was a highly touted prospect who fell as he was returning from tommy john surgery (had it during his junior year of high school). Beato came back and found his stuff. Throws a fastball with good sinking action (90) and has been clocked as hard as 96. Mixes that in with a hard slider (mid 80's), curve and a changeup. Beato would need to work on smoothening out his mechanics, but the guy has a big frame (6-5). Chris Tillman, RHP - Fountain Valley High School (CAL) Tillman is a 6-6 pitcher with a big frame thats very projectable. He's comitted to Cal State Fullerton for college and is expected to go as early as the end of the 1st round or as late as the end of the 2nd round. He's a more raw guy who loses his stuff as the game goes on and some wonder if he's just cruising, but he only has 2 picthes at this point and is seeking a 3rd pitch. This is the type of player that is more of a project and a team that takes him would really be projecting him (ie expecting him to really develop). The type of guy that could really benefit from going to a place like Cal State Fullerton. However, scouts like him enough that he'll go early enough to where he'll probably forego college.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 09:04 AM) Baseball America said in the blog that it sounds like the Royals will announce Hochevar as the #1 overall....I wonder how far miller falls The Rockies appear to be close to taking Reynolds at 2, which would be a surprise since for a long time it sounded like they were willing to take Miller (top pitching prospect). or Longoria (top position player in the draft). Hochevar pick is the rare instance where a Boras pick is actually a signability pick

Interesting, Reynolds (RHP out of Stanford) is now showing up on a few mocks as a 2nd overall pick to the Rockies. This is a guy that wasn't expected to go where he was, so a team that wasn't expecting Longoria or Miller or Linnecum could get them to fall into there laps.

BA appears to think the Cards are going to load up on Boras clients (high ceiling guys too) if they get the chance. They now have Shcerzer sliding to them at 30 (past us; this would be the type of guy that if he fell, it would be worth taking a chance on trying to negotiate a 3 million buck contract). They also have Kennedy going to the Cards in the supplemental round. Kennedy probably hurt his stock as much as any projected top pick as he was a top 10 pick at the start of the year (if not a top 4 or 5 pick) but like Scherzer he struggled with consistency this year and some scouts have doubts about his smaller stature. QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 09:06 AM) JimH, do you really think Beato even makes it to #29? I think BA has ranked him 13th overall or something like that. His stuff sounds electric, and if he does happen to slide all the way down to #29, you have to take him, no question. BTW -- Cheat talked about this on his blog, but I'm pissed that MLB is now making 'recommendations' as to what kind of money to give to Draft-and-Follows. The D-&-F system sounded like one where, if you played your cards right, you could grab some high-round talent without necessarily having top picks. Draft and Follow works good, but you often times have to give up a ton of money. MLB will get mad at you if you do so, but teams do it all the time. MLB just gives a suggestion. Draft and Follows can be good if you take a guy who was high ceiling, got hurt, and will be pitching for a JC the next year or rehabbing. Also for a guy you have an eye on but that hasn't yet taken off (you may be able to wait and see in a sense).

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 09:02 AM) I'm interested to see if the Sox go the college closer route for a guy that could possibly help them this year. I was really hoping for that, but it doesn't seem like that type of guy is available early on. You don't have a Huston Street or Chad Cordero out there.

Its getting closer.

This thread will be pinned later today.

Tillman is a stud as well and is comitted to Cal State Fullerton, but the right money would obviously change all that. I Like the sounds of the main guys the Sox are apparently looking at.

QUOTE(My Dixie Normus @ Jun 5, 2006 -> 08:41 PM) Dustin Hermanson is still listed on the disabled list. He is still officially on the 40-man roster. Has anyone heard any news recently on his progress? Should he just be counted out totally or does he just go to the same doctors that Mark Prior does? If he gets back at all, will he be worth a crap after this long of a lay off? A while back I saw where he was throwing down in extended spring training, but he was still in a lot of pain. I think its realistic to expect him to announce his retirement, however, it would be excellent if he was able to come back healthy (but I really don't think that will happen).