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According to some reports out here, the Dodgers initially had offered Furcal a 4 year deal at a little less annually but had talked with his agent and felt that a 3 yr deal with more money annually would be enough to get him. The Agent and Furcal both liked the idea of hitting FA again when he's 31. That said a 5 year deal at 12 mill a year would probably land him. I'll take Paulie myself. One other interesting tidbit is that in addition to Furcal the Dodgers are in talks with Seattle to acquire Adrian Beltre. Its preliminary at this stage but contrary to some reports Beltre is believed to be on the market. The Dodgers would want the Mariners to pick up some of his contract. Now this would be a move I'd fully endorse as a Dodger fan. Hell, I'd endorse picking him up as a Sox fan (but that ain't going to happen and the money could be spent in better areas).

Cripes...I'd think he'd still look at a longer deal, but this is a hell of an offer by the Dodgers and a ridiculous one at that. I like Furcal but thats about 4-5 mill a year too much for him.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 10:41 PM) I do. Dave Duncan can probably get him pitching a bit better, plus Morris's ERA this season was 4.11 and it was 4.72 in 2004. Will be interesting to see how Burnett pitches away from Pro Player though. He is an upgrade, imo.

In terms of the Pads, they are quietly putting together a pretty good off-season. I think Loretta is a solid ballplayer and he'll fit in well with the Pads but Wells is a solid pitcher and he's better than that in San Diego, imo (pitching at Petco). I should mention that Loretta for Wells isn't going to happen. The Pads won't deal him. He'll help the staff, but more importantly they are right now rumored to be one of the front-runners for Bengie Molina (surprising considering they have the guy they got in the Kotsay trade..Hernandez). Plus, there is no doubt Mike Cameron upgarded the team defense in CF and they have Giles back. They still need to find a taker for Ryan Klesko and my guess is they will be looking for one more bat. The only move I didn't like was the one where Vinny Castilla became there 3rd baseman.

My dad opened the trash can yesterday (in our kitchen) and I saw 5 bucks sitting in there. I looked at him and said man what a fool you are, you just threw out 5 bucks on accident so I'm going to have to take it. After poking fun at him for being senile (which he isn't) I than realized it was me who had just thrown 5 bucks out and well he had the last laugh.

QUOTE(LDF @ Dec 3, 2005 -> 05:12 AM) r u thinking of doing something like that here? Theres a possibility.

They always find a way to make it interesting, but I'll take a W.

I see no reason to think that the Bears will totally destroy the Packers. I hope they do and talent wise they are a better team (the Bears and by a lot) but this is a rivalry game and you can throw the records out. The Packers have found a way to play halfway decent lately and while I don't see them winning I still think they got to play the game. This is the 1st time in a long time the Bears are better than the Pack (aside from our fluke year) and I'd love to see us take this one today and then get the sweep in Lambeau on Xmas.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 04:04 PM) Dude, that movie was f***ing badass. Why is it the funniest movie ever? It was so so so so so horrid that I and my friends were in tears from laughing so hard at different parts. Truly one of the best comedies of our generation as far as I'm concerned. I mean when he takes a jet ski, jumps it onto the road and lands it perfectly onto a taxi to have it fall onto the road and slide right up to the bus (the one he wants to get on) to where he stands up and just non-chalantly walks right onto the bus (as if it weren't moving). That wasn't even close to the best scene (I don't want to blow it for those that have missed out on this comedy).

Is that much different than a tuna casserole? I have never made a tuna casserole before but it sounds similar (i've eaten plenty of them) and they are tasty. Than again I could pretty much live off of Peanut Butter Sandwiches and the ocassional Tuna Sandwich (of course I'd probably have high levels of mercury in me, lol).

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 03:43 PM) Kenny is the type of gm to think outside the box but I highly doubt you see Erstad here. It does sound like the Angels were planning on moving him back to cf if they signed paul, do you think he can handle cf right now or do you think he'll be back on the dl every two weeks if he's moved back there? Honestly, I think he's going to get hurt. However, if he didn't get hurt, there is no one else I'd rather have (considering all the options) than Darin Erstad. The guy is a total gamer. He's great on the field (my god can the guy play defense) and he has that rugged, grinder style that Chicago fans endear. Realistically I think he'd be an oustanding fit, I just don't know if his hammies and knees would be able to handle the day to day of it. On the plus side Ozzie gives his guys extra rest so if they took care of him and he stayed healthy. I could see him playing around 140 games (Anderson is going to get starts as the 4th OF) and hitting .285 with a .340-.350 OBP. On top of that 15-20 steals and gold glove caliber defense. The weird part about Darin is that his walk numbers have actually regressed with age and I actually think thats partly because Mickey Hatcher (Angels hitting coach) is a fan of agressive hacks . I say all this because I think the Sox could get Erstad for Marte probably straight up (well maybe Sean Tracey or someone else included). The Angels would love to get Marte and the Sox would have there needs filled in CF. If anything happens to Erstie (I think he's a FA finally at the end of the year, but not positive) than you have Anderson waiting in the wings. Hell Steve Finley is yet another possibility. If the Sox were willing to take in half of his contract they could probably get him for Arnie Munoz (I think the Angels want to move him badly and I still think he ends up in Beantown as a part of a Ramirez deal). Basically the Sox take the risk that he busts up again this year and owe around 4-5 million. If he does pan out than they have themselves a solid 2 hole hitter with some power. I know he strikes out a lot, but at the same time he's one of the best bunters in the league and he's a hard nosed gritty player. He doesn't want to leave the West Coast. Once again if he belly's up than the Sox have Brian Anderson to turn to. These are two different guys on the Angels that I could see fitting. Namely because they could come here at a lower cost (in terms of players given up) and potentially pan out in a big way. If they don't, they are gone at the end of the year and Anderson can step in mid-season or whenever and be the starter the rest of the way (if he isn't, than obviously the Sox would have to try something near the deadline). Personally I wouldn't complain with either move. Both are classy guys and would be very good on the clubhouse. They can both handle the bat and play defense.

Well if the Yanks make that deal, its a very good one from there perspective. Proctor is a loser and I will never understand why there hyped up prospects get so much love. In perspective, I don't think Proctor is any better than Arnie Munoz. I can't speak much of the other prospect, but I'm sure he's not better than Sean Tracey as a prospect. If someone told me Sean Tracey and Arnie Munoz would have gotten Juan Pierre, I probably would have been pretty willing to pull the trigger. All that said, I really am not at a loss and considering I was thinking one of our young Of's was gonna be gone for Pierre, I'm kind of happy that we'll be focusing on another CF. I just hope its a good one we find. Here's a question, does anyone think the Sox will be crazy enough to try to put Erstad back in CF. When he's there is a stud defensively and while he's overpaid, I don't think you'd have to give up much in terms of talent. I know his numbers aren't the greatest, but he's a good all around player that would definately fit in the 2 hole.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 09:12 PM) I want to punch that website in the face right now.... I can hear it now.. "But Young strikes out a lot"... "But Cotts walks too many people" The only thing that makes me angrier is this 30-something page thread. I think we will be getting Pierre, but I would yack if they gave up Cotts or Young in the deal. That said I think Marte and Sweeney is a possibility. In fact, I could see Marte and Anderson. I think we'd be over-paying, but if Pierre plays like he did two years ago it fills a need so to speak.

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 10:32 PM) haha...at first glance, I thought that said "FULL HOUSE" ...yet somehow it made sense that Jason would have that #1 on his list You know whats sad. I have the 2nd girls autograph. I won it in 6th grade in this competition at school. At the time me and my buddies all had a huge crush on her. Jodie something is what I think her name was. Hell its probably in some box to this day. Sad, but true. Whats even more sad, is that If I ever saw Duck Tales on TV, I can safely say I would drop whatever I was doing and watch it for a few hr's. I'd do the same if I ever saw the original Inspector Gadget on. Now those were shows.

QUOTE(DonkeyKongerko @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 07:49 PM) Brussel Sprouts smell pretty nasty but I can swallow em. Beets may cause gagging. I agree on cheesecake. Cake is a dessert whereas cheese is not. The two should not be mixed. Mushrooms are so good though. You guys are all missing out. Seriously, some sauteed or steamed mushrooms...yumm. One of my favs and a must have on pizza, imo.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 01:40 PM) Mushrooms, olives, tomatoes, anything that ends in melon or remotely resmbles a melon, cucumbers, salsa, and I tried my Uncle's pickled herring once. Never again. Pickled Herron must be an Iowa thing. Every time were back visiting our family (my grandparents, my dads parents) we picked up Pickled Herron from the store for my grandpa. Finally a couple years back I tried the stuff, I can safely say it was the nastiest thing I ever ate in my entire life (aside from the chicken I cooked once that led to me getting food poisoning).

QUOTE(SnB @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 11:41 AM) I think we've had a favorite foods thread at some point, but how about foods you can't stand. 1) cottage cheese, i don't even understand what it is, and it tastes like wet cardboard. 2) mushrooms, i love vegetables, but this is a dirty fungis. 1. Olives...I used to like them, now I can't stand them. Once I decided I liked them, my dad (who loves them) decided to cook them in everything he made. Very quickly I started to hate them and now I will pick em all out before eating them. 2. Sushi and shelled fish - I love seafood, but crabs/lobsters/shrimp along with uncooked fish are disgusting to me.

How could I forget House...thats tops on my list with Lost.

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 12:21 PM) T S O CHICKEN. Waffles with peanut butter and syrup...YUMMM Things I can't stomach...cheerios and OJ, cheerios and beer. Neither are good substitutes for milk (you know for those times you poor the cheerios and than realize you have no milk in the house).

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 04:21 PM) I got to thinking that there are so many bad movies that are out that you like. Roger Ebert explained it best when he said in his review of The Fast & The Furious "There are so few great movies that you have to learn to love the great trash." That is so true in so many ways. Here are my "great trash" movies: Bad Company Tomcats Big Daddy Blade III: Trinity Resident Evil Scary Movie 3 Resident Evil and Resident Evil 2. For whatever reason I like those movies. Under Siege is another great movie in my book. Just some badas actoin scenes. Of course #1 on my all time list is Transporter 2. That is the single funniest movie ever made. One question, do you all ever watch a movie on some channel and you realize it sucks but for some reason you just keep watching it thinking it is going to get better. Every once in a while I find myself doing that and I sit there and think why, yet don't change the channel (usually it happens when I'm at home sick and resting).

Thats crazy goldy. Glad your OK and that no one was harmed in the accident. Thats all that matters in the end. Hopefully your ankle/leg is fine.

Lost, Prison Break, 24, House, Smallville, Nip Tuck, Curb Your Enthusiasm, My Name is Earl, Sopranos (well new episodes).

I was even thinking if somehow like a Illini Board a Bulls Board, a Bears board all seperate but the off topic boards all tie into one or something.

Here's the question, would the speed of the dome help him (ie he would hit grounders so hard they get through) or would it hurt him because it would prevent him from beating out infield hits.

QUOTE(Randar68 @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 07:28 AM) Our lefty depth will depend a lot on the development of Liotta and Ryan Rodgriguez, who I think is poised to have a great year. In addition, Lumsden getting healthy and Whisler figuring things out, all go a long way. Hell, might as well include Malone in this as well. We have some high-ceiling lefties, hopefully a couple reach that potential. I just hope Lummy can get healthy cause the Kid has an arm. Liotta will hopefully improve and Rodriguez has kind of been hovering (ocassionally going on some hot streaks). I think Rodriguez would be the guy in the minors that I'd think is destined for a breakout year. He has a good pitchers build, good stuff, but hasn't put it all together yet. As far as Whisler goes, I just hope I was wrong and that somehow he will figure things out.