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Ya, I was surprised to see that too. He looked good all pre-season and may even be a potential building piece in LA. It wasn't that long ago when Mihm was one of the more highly touted center prospects in college (back when he was at Texas). Still its just one game, but he should be able to learn some nuances from Vlade once he gets healthy. The other guy on the Lakers I'd like to see more of is Brian Cook. He was hurt most of last year but he was a machine in Illinois. He's a good athlete and should help ther low post position. The big question for the Lakers is who is going to get boards. They want to run and play agressive, but to succeed at that they are going to have to excel on the boards and get quick outlet passes. Utah looking fantastic tonight. I'm with you guys, Sloan is one of the best, if not the best in the league right now.

Like I said before. This was the first year with the renovations and I think its pretty safe to say they made it more of a hitters park. But at the same time I think we should see what another year does. I expect it to still be a hitters park, but maybe it won't be quite as drastic. And at the same time the Sox offense did have quite a few good hitters. Of course opponents ripped the crap out of us too, then again our pitching wasn't what I'd call stellar. However, if it plays out the same way, I wouldn't mind seeing the fences in left moved back, although realistically I don't know if they could do it with the bullpens over there.

Chris Mihm played freaking awesome last night. Looks like he may pan out after all. He did a nice job last year in Boston with his hustle (blocks, boards, defense).

Goodie Goodie. I'd love to see this happens because it spreads their money out farther and Nomar is an injury prone guy. Plus, maybe just maybe it means they are less as agressive on the Beltran front. Me, I want them to just give us Kevin Brown

Guys I'm going to have to side with Red on this. Orlando Cabrerra >>> Jose Valentin I think Jose has good range, but at the same time I think playing in Montreal most of his career means more groundballs got past him because they are hit so hard which has a negative effect on his range factor. Plus RF heavily depends on the type of pitchers you have as well, especially for a middle infielder. Having watched Jose paly a long time, I'll say this. He's better then average range wise, but defensively I'd call him average because he still makes too many errors. This year he did better, but Cabrerra is very strong defensively and I think he's better then Jose.

I think if Carlos is dealt Jose Guillen would fit in production wise and budget wise. However, Kenny has made it quite a big deal to get character guys in the clubhouse and although I think some of the stuff said about Guillen was overblown, you have to wonder if the Sox would be willing to acquire him. No doubt he'd put up very good numbers on the southside, plus he plays good defense (awesome arm). I think he can be had for a guy like Arnie Munoz and another prospect. I read somewhere that the Pirates were interested in him and you can't see them offering up top prospects, which leads me to believe the Angels aren't going to get much for him.

Mulder is who I'd want the most on the SouthSide of their big three. But I'd have to think that they will do what they can to keep him. The question to me is whether its Zito or Hudson. I'll take any of the three for Konerko . However I do think Lee would make more sense in Oakland since Hatty and Durazo are their (I don't know if Durazo is gone or not like someone mentioned).

Remember, I tend to have a stance to not talking about guys that are still rather far from making the show. I rarely tout rookie league guys and people have to be very special before I highly doubt them in low A. I don't doubt Pedroia. I think he's a guy that has the heart and mechanics to be very good. He plays the game right, is scrappy and is good, even though he's limited physically. Abe Alvarez is kind of an et. I really don't know if he's all that good. I think he may have a shot, but I say the same thing about Felix Diaz and I don't think the White Sox have a top farm system. I think some of the pieces are their that they should climb in the next few years, but its still a major wait and see with them. I think they probably rate somewhere near the White Sox, except they don't quite have the Bmac, Anderson, Sweeney in the system. They do have Hanley though and he's as legit as it gets. I just don't think they rate top 5 or so like you insinuated.

Damn it, I was thinking you guys were having a sunkist orange drink extravaganza

My two favorites were that as well. Of course I've never tried either beers. I know what I'll be doing this weekend Its kind of funny, some of the beers I like finished dead last.

On a sidenote, late in the election process I remember Bush saying he was for Civil Unions so I'm hoping that the country will take some necessary steps to make it possible for gays to get civil unions and more importantly for them to be able to share rights with their partners. I think thats a very important thing and its something as a republican I support and want to see done.

I want to quickly say something. I finally got to see Kerry's concession speach and I really want to commend him. I thought it was a very classy speach and I give him a lot of credit. I remember reading somewhere on this thread that Kerry's political career is now over, and that Edwards still has one. If you ask me Kerry handled this appropriately and I gained a lot of respect towards him for the way he did it. I think he has ensured that when his seat is next up for re-election that he'll have a good shot at it. As far as John Edwards goes, I think his political career is over with. He did an incredibly lousy job after gaining so much support in the primaries. He also, imo, did a terrible job in the elections and for a guy that is a trial attorney, he should be a much better public speaker (I guess this is kind of blah, because i'm more then willing to admit the fact that Bush is a horrible public speaker, but to me he makes up for it with his uncanny ability to connect with people on a one to one basis). Anyway, thats just my stance on it.

Their is at least some rumor that this position will be offered to Giuliani. Considering Drudge is reporting a conservative piece of news I'd assume its probably pretty accurate. If he was talking about the democratic side then I'd be skeptical since he is a conservative. Thanks for the info Apu

Mainly I'm pissed at myself when I didn't stick to my guns and vote McClintock. I just think he's down a lousy job, especially when it came to not supporting Bill Jones in the senate race and to be honest I don't think he's done that great of a job in the state. I feel McClintock would of been the better guy. I will say this, Arnold has done a good job working with the democrats, but at the same time, I just don't think he's accomplished what should of been accomplished. That and I was heavily against the 3 billion government stem cell bill which Arnold supported. I have nothing against Stem Cell research, in fact I think its the future, but I have a big problem with the state financing it. This is when the state is already incredibly in debt.

No worries, that comment just offended me. We still like the Kipster and thats what matters

The Red Sox, other then Hanley Ramirez, pretty much have garbage in the minor leagues. And what makes you think Billy Beane thinks you guys have top prospects?

Oh baby, I'd give up a top prospect as well in this deal. I'd love Tim Hudson. This is a type of move I'd definately approve. Plus he's a groundball pitcher and I"d think he'd fit in well in Chicago.

It ain't a sporting event. Its the fact that those of us that do support George W. Bush feel this was a huge huge election. Not only do we get our guy back in the white house for another 4 years, gain seats in the senate, pick up in the house, and hopefully get the DNC chairman out of dodge (I can't stand Terry McCulloh, I think he's ruined the democratic party and has really been one of the key people thats pushed them so far left). The fact is this president was completely trashed by some in the media and of course the other side holds true. I don't think I've seen a president more trashed, yet he seemed to stay away from cheap shots and stuck with his character (imo) which to me is a classy individual. I'll also give John Kerry credit for bowing down, despite (reported) attempts at John Edwards to tell him otherwise (I don't know how true that is, cause I was listening to a conservative talk show that mentioned this). Like I said before the election, I wanted a decisive winner and that was what would be best for the country. I told my friends if Bush loses, I'll support Kerry and call him the commander and chief and hope he does a good job. I also said I wouldn't in any way support a protest of the electoin (unless the winner was by like 1 vote and their were tons of reports of fraud, which never happened, thank goodness). I think when you go out and your into politics and follow the system, you have the right to quietly rejoice when your guy and your ideaologies are going to be ensured as best as possible for another 4 years. We'll see what happens two years from now. But I'm feelling very confident in the direction America is heading.

Screw Arnold. That jackass ain't getting my vote for the governship. I'll vote democrat if I have to. I know, no reference to you steve, i'm just pissed at my states governor And yep, I got off my ass and voted, even though it took a freaking hour.

One question....who the hell is your source on all this.....George Soros -The Draft - NOT GOING TO HAPPEN (Bush has stated that fact) -Removing Financial Aid (When the hell did he say this???) - Iran (Ya, its quite possible that in a few years something will happen their...they are a dangerous country, but hopefully it can be solved in a peaceful manner). - 8 year rule ain't going anywhere

Ya, when you look at all the counties on the maps they showed earlier in the night you pretty much knew Bush had won. First off, almost the entire state was covered in red, minus the urban areas. But secondly, when they compared 2000 to 2004, Bush gained in almost every county, including the major urban areas, while only losing in very few counties.

The truth of the matter is, historically some economic indicators are nowhere as bad as the democrats wanted people to believe and that people put a heavy emphasis on morals in this election and Bush hands down was the candidate of choice when it came to that.

Imo, the electoral college is the best system. It keeps some power within the states, meaning politicians have to campaign all over the country, but at the same time it gives an advantage to the population because states with larger populations are awarded with more votes.

Its no surprise that these bills all passed. Oregon finished relatively closed though I think.