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I said very early in this thread, we can come out of this crisis stronger & more together. We can fund a lot of cheap infrastructure growth & ultra low interest rates and do things that can create massive jobs and overall sustainable growth in our economy (after we get through this) but only if we can come together as a society and get real progress in Washington. The current environment (and I WILL CONTINUE to blame both sides of the aisle) is doing nothing but driving greater differences and non-existent change (just worthless talk on both sides).

Greg - I'll give you what my day looks like (and I will caveat that I'm a lucky family that in which both my wife & I have thus far maintained our jobs *knock on wood* ). I'll give a before & after. But let me just say that my personal day is nothing like what you describe above (and despite all the challenges I know damn well that I am very lucky to be in the situation we are in (and hopefully we can remain in this situation). Before Virus: - M:F = Wife = At work @ 6:00 AM - Gets off Around 4:30 & Goes to Pick Up Each of Our Kids; She is responsible for Dinner Mon-Thursday and kids homework etc (we prep over weekend, so largely we can reheat food that we had cooked in preperation); I get home for bed-time routine with our kids (most night...unless I have to work late in which case I'll work very late so I can be home @ reasonable time other nights) - M;F = Me = AM take kids to school (each go to seperate school); Get to work around 8:30 and am at work until 6:30-7 most nights; During my busy time (quarter-end / year end / plan & budget season), I have a couple nights each week that are much later; By and large lunch is at my desk (in between meetings) and/or eaten during a meeting; Nights I get home, spend time with kids (story time is my thing with the kids, talk to them about their day, and tuck them in to bed). If busy...get back and do a bit more work (if there is anything urgent...again...need to do because I have drop-off duties for kids). Weekend: Family time; Youth Sports / Other Activities / Hikes with family or just General Adventures (usually we get in quite a bit of physical activities, etc and than have relaxing dinners at home; maybe grab lunch out and get together with extended family) With Virus: - Both of us continue to work. The only thing that has changed is, we don't commute (which is great I might add). Instead, schooling our children (5 & 6 years old) has pivoted to our responsibility. This is on top of our normal commitments to work. My wife & I are still expected to do what needs to be done work wise and we both try our best to make sure we are delivering for our kids. Neither of us are school teachers, so are we perfect, no, but we do the best we can and basically this becomes a new focus for us during the day where we will prioritize time with them. We make sure to each dedicate time (when we aren't in meetings, etc) to just hanging out with them (and this has been truly fantastic - something we don't regularly get to do). But whatever we put in with the kids, we make up later on @ night as we still have our work responsibilities, which, have largely gotten more difficult (post COVID vs. pre COVID). More analysis, unique tech challenges, etc. We make sure we eat lunch & dinner as a family each night and get out on a nightly exercise too (really key for us - because being cooped up is hard); To extent we can...we also try to do during lunch. - Weekends aren't actually that much different (pre vs. post), other than youth sports are shot and instead we spend our own time playing outdoors, going on bike rides, just getting good outdoor time. And of course everything is spent with us as a family (vs. with friends), with exception that on Sundays, we still have them see their 2 cousins (shame me all you want - but we are both complying and it is a risk I'll take (*knock on wood*). I also (individually) go on a weekly run to the store, where I buy a weekly food supply (I bought a bunch of frozen meat & veggies when the initial pandemic hit and have just been buying weekly fresh food allotments that cover my weekly needs at this point; if things went south, I have a few weeks of frozen meats & veggies before having to switch to canned beans, pasta, etc). - Personally speaking - I've never been more tired because I'm working more hours (not less) and adding in schooling my kids (because virtual learning puts 95% of the work on the parent vs. the teacher (at least at my kids age - and everyone I've talked to with kids in similar ages have had the same views). Good news is my kids emotionally are 110% okay (other than being scared by the fact that my wife & I are just not nearly as effective to trained professionals (& not as patient) when it comes to teaching various curriculum). - Spending Wise - I am spending less money now vs. before because we eat in 85-90% of the time (w/2 takeout/pickup meals a week (+ an iced coffee on the weekend); we pick local restaurants we like and make sure we order from them to support them and than have been tipping more to try and do our part (since we are lucky to maintain our jobs). We'll do that as long as we can continue to do so (and again...very much frequenting the places we like best).

THey'll do the job. Nothing is perfect, but by and large, I think the key is something is much better than nothing.

Plus Vitamin D may actually have a positive impact on an individuals ability to fight this (in general Vitamin D is good) and exercise and being out flat out counters the risk of increased diabetes, hypertension and everything else from people being locked in their houses consistently. A happy medium is opening things up, but requiring mandatory masks (I don't get why this isn't just a fed thing - it flat out works) and be reasonable about what you open up (i.e,. no amusement parks, no full openings of restaurants, no fans in attendance to live sports). Keep those crazy things in check until this thing has passed. If we do this...I think they can keep things manageable. There is obviously going to me more infections with the above than a complete stay at home order, but I also think in general it is likely a happy medium that will manage economic devastation with human devastation (i.e. lives lost). There is some trade off and I'm glad I'm not the one making the decision on that.

And lets cherry pick the fact that even if deaths are understated by 2x, the actual cases are understated somewhere between 10 & 50 times. I think you have to consider both aspects of the equation (and I personally don't believe deaths are understated by a magnitude of 2x). But I could be wrong. New York might have 20-25% infected and an overall state wide mortality rate of .2% (looking at aggregate population). And that .2% is elevated by fact that they couldn't actually keep up with cases (which is real and clearly elevates mortality rates). If you assume 20% of population and get to some stat where 80% is infected over course of next 1.5 years, you are looking at a .8% stressed mortality rate (since the .2% is based upon some level of stresses). Obviously this stat can be scaled up / down based upon how much you think the actual state has been infected. I would hope over time, all of those numbers would be scaled down as our doctors are learning how to better treat the virus (both in terms of up-front actions that can be taken & as well as with various treatments that emerge). All of the above is why it is important to bend the curve to us to build up a time to better learn how to treat and/or come up with a vaccine.

Allen Robinson is the only guy. And I think they will have him resigned during the offseason.

Me too. Franchise is like $26-$28M so either way not a big deal.

Foles only positive over the other ones you listed is fact he has familiarity with the Bears system. That is it. I get why Bears did it, but I don't have to like it. Dalton is a superior QB (at least career wise) and Cam is clearly best of the group (when healthy). Winston was always a guy I would have liked to take a change of scenery chance on. He likely doesn't stop being a turnover machine, but if you can limit that, he's a pretty good QB who might have his best years ahead of him. Pace did the safe thing, which is not his usual MO, but I think this is because he feels cornered to some extent and because he is obligated to get Nagy the guy he wants (so Nagy can show that he isn't just a flash in the pan). I just don't know why they so quickly bet on someone as mediocre as Foles. I agree with everyone who says Bears need a playoff appearance for Pace to keep his gig (and Nagy for that matter), but still, this was a rare off-season where you could have really upgraded the QB position (or done better than Foles).

I tend to be in your camp but media seems the opposite so they must know more than us. I do agree with dick. Bears don’t want to take risk of Mitch getting hurt and guaranteeing the money and franchise is not much more. Best case scenario Bears are franchising Mitch (because it means he played well). They let him play one more year or at least a chunk of one more year under franchise and than If he is still looking legit you talk big time deal (or can always use the franchise tag again).

Greg - I'm the opposite; I think I spend 6-8 hours a day on the phone (technically skype or goto, etc). It is driving me absolutely mad. I hate talking on the phone or in the case of most of my day presenting via video conferencing, etc. That said, all that phone interaction is not the same as face to face, so I have actually gotten to know my neighbors pretty well as a result of this crisis. Pretty easy for us to sit in our garage / driveway and chat with neighbors over on the other side sitting in their driveway. My introverted ways usually make me just say hi & bye to the neighbors vs. have actual conversations (usually by the end of the day / end of the week I'm sick of all the time I've spent interacting with everyone at work - I spend most of my day in and/or leading meetings or being the guy who is trying to push things forward more aggressively) so I'm mentally spent and ready just to chillax with the familia.

Are people not required to wear masks in stores, etc in your area. We haven't been able to go into a store without a mask for like 2 weeks. All the stores have people standing out front and turn you away without one. Most of the bigger grocery stores had masks available for people if they didn't have them as a courtesy (since the rule was new) but I think at this point everyone just knows it. I was surprised to see airlines are just now requiring it.

If there offense is good - They are a top 6 team in the NFL; If there offense is okay - They are a top 15 team in the NFL. If their offense played like last year - They are probably a top 20 team. Only way I see them in the bottom 10 is if they have significant injuries to their defense.

Solid depth move and nicely timed since it has no impact on comp picks.

What is the point of shaming anyone. A lot of you are ignoring the fact that everyone is being impacted by this...everyone. Some worse than others but wow, some of you aren't willing to empathize with others as well.

Yeah - Shaq would break any era of the NBA. The only reason he didn't break the NBA in the late 90's / early 2000's was because the refs were completely unfair in how they treated him. Dude was an unstoppable force and would be today, in the 90's, or 50 years ago. He was the most physically dominating player in NBA history.

I just gave myself a trim on Sunday. Was nice. But I cut my hair on a pretty regular basis. Good ole #2

The big piece of his game that never was able to shine with the Bulls was his playmaking ability. With Jordan, Harper, and Pippen having the ball so much. Think of them as point forwards, it limited Kukoc who could do those things and than some. I do agree, he would have been really good in this era of spacing. But I disagree with those who think he would have been a decent defensive player today. He just is not a good defender (in any era).

He was spectacular. He had his chance to shine, however, I think his back didn't hold up and caused other issues. You are right though, if the Bulls were able to give him more ride in his prime and give him more primary ballhandling duties, it would have worked really well. He wasn't too volatile.

Instantly upgrades the "relationship" aspect of the Bulls front office from the Gar Forman era. Guy has moved up everywhere he has been and has built brands for some former stars back in his Nike Days (Gary Payton, Steve Nash, Steve Francis). Supposedly good eye for talent as well but as a whole a very nice fit as he strikes me as the type of asset that can be huge at winning on the free agency front.

Yeah he is serviceable. That isnt exactly a gold standard. It is why I don’t think Mitch is entirely forgotten and Foles is just for sure the guy. I don’t buy Mitch taking off but I could see him being much better than he was last year (after all he was the year before). Do I think he takes off...probably not but do I think he can be a serviceable qb...yeah I kind of do. I am pretty sure the bears have zero good qbs on roster but Mitch has more physical tools.

Probably had to do with them on such different timelines. He is just so mellow and enjoying all the downtime and just chilling on the ranch while she is trying to grow her business and traveling all over place for appearances etc.

Said another way...Foles is there to be the bridge guy if Mitch stinks. He can help bears be a mediocre playoff team and that buys Pace and Nagy time to get another shot at a QB. At least that is what I think they are both betting on. If bears make playoffs this year I think people feel better about Nagy and my guess is McCaskeys feel fine about Pace. It likely means a few of the moves this offseason worked too.

I still would have signed Winston. He is a better player than Foles with more upside. At his worse he is middle of the pack (kind of like cutler). I get that he didn’t work with Arians but I see Payton might sign him to spend a year with him and see if he can take over for Brees. Bears are probably going all in on QB again in the next year. Foles isn’t a long term answer. He is a bridge to see if everything else works ok but Bears would still need to upgrade. Only way they aren’t taking a QB early in next two years is if Mitch steps up in wake of increased competition and so far I haven’t heard any indications that he is crushing it in film study etc. His issue is very much between the ears.

He would be a good get for the Bears. Problem is he's a free agent at the end of the year (I think) and he's had injury issues. I presume Colts aren't "giving" him away, but if they would take a late day 3 pick I would be interested. On other thing is Hooker probably isn't the best compliment to Jackson. My guess is Bears are going to move Denmark to safety and let him and Bush compete for the spot (and maybe they will sign Tony Jefferson)

I am content with this draft. I still expect them to make a free agent signing or two, probably at safety and maybe a Jason Peters type vet oline guy.