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Sox Acquire Schoeneweis for Glover, Minor Leaguers By Mario Scalise July 29, 2003 SoxNet.net (SN Report #587) - In a move to bolster their pitching staff, the White Sox traded for Angels lefty reliever Scott Schoeneweis and minor league pitcher Doug Nickle today. In return, the White Sox sent reliever Gary Glover and two minor leaguers. It is being reported that the two minor leaguers the White Sox gave up are pitchers Scott Dunn and Tim Bittner. The 29-year-old Schoeneweis, a starter coming into this season, has pitched in 39 games out of the bullpen this season with the Angels. In 38 2/3 innings, Schoeneweis has a 3.96 ERA and 1-1 record. Opponenets are batting .250 off him. For the triple-A Salt Lake City Stingers, Nickle, 28, was 2-1 with 1.48 ERA in 34 games and 48 2/3 innings. Nickle has given up 40 hits and has struck out 23. In 24 relief appearances, Glover, 26, posted a 4.54 ERA in 35 2/3 innings. In three season's with the Sox, Glover is 13-13 with a 5.02 ERA in 111 games (33 starts). Bittner, a 23-year-old lefty, went 4-4 with a 3.40 ERA in 50 1/3 (10 starts) with low-A Kannapolis, and 3-3 with a 3.60 ERA in 30 innings (17 starts) with high-A Winston Salem. Dunn, 25, is a right-hander who was acquired from the Reds in the D'Angelo Jimenez trade. In 10 2/3 innings with the double-A Birmingham Barons, Dunn was 3-1 with a 1.69 ERA. He is 6-3 overall this season with a 3.35 ERA in 39 games and 51 innings. The White Sox have yet to decide what Schoeneweis' role will be, but as of now he will be used as a reliever. Schoeneweis started 15 games for the Angels in 2002 and went 6-6 with a 5.38 ERA. He averaged slighly over six innings per start. Out of the bullpen, he had a 3.25 ERA in 27 2/3 innings. In the post-season, he allowed one run in three innings.

Never heard any mention that they are were close to a deal nor have any names been mentioned...just Williamson and Boone and it was by Gammons.

I think it definitely depends on the prospects we are sending, and if they are actaully prospects. If its just Glover for Scho...then I'm happy with it.

I agree with you. I think both have been big dissapointments and they've had similar careers to this point. I'm thinking as things change we'll find out who exactly is moving. COuld be Ross Gload..Angels need a first baseman (They might as well try them).

Don't be so sure. Sox could be using Scott as a starter...plus I think the Sox since they dealt Glover in the move, still are planning on adding another reliever.

I think its basically gonna be Glover for Schoenweiss. I don't anticipate anyone like Pacheco involved. You could see someone like Ryan Meaux moved or something along those lines.

Hmm, don't know if it's true or not, but what are Schoneweiss's #'s? Curious 1-1, 3.96 ERA, 38.2 INN. Watched him on Saturday out of the pen and he was throwin 94. I am a schoenweiss fan. I'm hoping its basically Glover for Schoey and its a good deal.

I've heard one other minor leaguer. My guess is they wouldn't be good prospects. I dont' think its a good deal if Sox give up anyone good simply because Schoenweiss has never had a good season as a starter.

Alright, I'm looking around...gonna call a buddy I know with the Angels and see if I can find anything out. I am a schoenweiss fan.

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I didn't know the Astros were interested. It mentioned the Cardinals in there.

Read yesterday that the Angels will consider moving him. It be stupid on their part though because they have Sele and Appier in the rotation who suck, so I think the Angels will hold onto him and if they move him...Cards have been scouting him.

Did they end up paying a lto of Miceli's contract? I didn't think Miceli made much and if he did I assumed the Yanks would be paying it. Miceli is a solid reliever. They didn't really give up anything.

I was gonna say I swore he played in the middle infield at one point in his career. I was thinking he could move to short or 2nd if Alomar or Jose leaves in the offseason and the Sox don't deal Crede. I forgot the reds had larson. If they plan on playing him at 3rd then I doubt they'd take Crede.

Schoenweiss has pitched awesome out of the pen in releif. He wants to be a starter and in 2001 he pitched more then 200 innings. The problem is the Angels are asking a whole lot for him and the Cards are very interested. I'd rather cheap things out. Plus Schoenweiss has proved nothing as a starter and would be too expensive (Trade Wise) to get as a reliever.

I agree with you on this. I'd rather have Cotts up as the 5th or something along those lines with 2 solid relievers. If Sox could get Williamson and say Stanton or Williamson and Graves or something along those lines you all of a sudden double the arms JM should have trust in, plus JM just got Wunsch back. You'd go from having faith in two guys, to having faith in 5 guys, and you have Koch as the 6th.

You can never have too many quality relievers.

You don't give up on Crede, period. Schnurstein is in Rookie ball, and it's pretty dumb to assume he'll ever make it to the bigs. I'd take on Williamson, but not Boone. Well I'm saying if its Crede and two decent (none of the top 20) involved then I'd include him. I would like to keep Crede as well. Maybe Sox make that deal and then move PK somewhere else for a starter and have Crede platoon the rest of this year and become the starter again next year (Boone plays everyday between 1st and 3rd). I'm a big fan of Aaron Boone though. Williamson would be awesome. I'd like Williams and a starter or even Williamson and Graves. If Sox aren't gonna add a starter, then why not add two killer relievers. Graves will not be moved, his contract is too big for JR to chew on. Paul Konerko will not, and should not be traded now. He's finally coming around, and trading him for a 5th starter makes no sense at all. The guy was an All-Star last year, and we're trading him so we can five good starters over four? Doesn't make much sense to me. Only reason I throw that out there is because Konerko's contract is huge. I don't know what JR is telling KW in terms of purse strings. But i'd rather have Colon then Konerko. I like Konerko a lot. Honestly I wouldn't change the offense all that much, unless given the chance to get a speedster or a lefty power hitter that draws walks, etc (Giles). Otherwise 5th starter and a reliever are the needs.

To me the Sox can live with Crede. He plays great defense and he will become a very good player. I see him as a very similar player to Scott Rolen. Aaron Boone is also a good player. Boone would be a great pickup this season and I'm sure he'd have value next year if the Sox move him. If Sox can get him without giving up Crede or anything super good (Along with Williamson) then I'd say its a great move to get the two of them. You got to improve the team for this year as best they can and if you get a great offer take it and deal with the conflicts in the offseason. Still add a starter and a reliever or two really good relievers.

What is Boone's contract situation? If we can lock him up for a long term deal than I guess I could accept trading Crede. Just as long as we don't throw in any other top prospects. CWSOX45 3.7 mill this year and he's 30 years old. HIs numbers basically have been getting better each season.

You don't give up on Crede, period. Schnurstein is in Rookie ball, and it's pretty dumb to assume he'll ever make it to the bigs. I'd take on Williamson, but not Boone. Well I'm saying if its Crede and two decent (none of the top 20) involved then I'd include him. I would like to keep Crede as well. Maybe Sox make that deal and then move PK somewhere else for a starter and have Crede platoon the rest of this year and become the starter again next year (Boone plays everyday between 1st and 3rd). I'm a big fan of Aaron Boone though. Williamson would be awesome. I'd like Williams and a starter or even Williamson and Graves. If Sox aren't gonna add a starter, then why not add two killer relievers.

IF Crede is the swinger in this deal I'd give him up. Boone will be able to play 3rd until the Schnur is ready and Boone is already a very good 3rd baseman. I'd say Crede and a prospect or two for those two.

I picked the same as the majority with the exception to the GM I wanted (JP Riccardi; Blue Jays GM) and a players ability based on tool. In regards to the players ability based on tools, I like it to be a mix. There is no stat that really rates defense perfectly right now and those rae things you don't get in stats. I think it should be a mix of stats and tools but you don't pay a guy huge money whose yet to prove himself just because he has tools (Not counting draft picks here).