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QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 08:05 AM) The banter between the Magnificent Seven was perfect. Yeah...that was great banter. I enjoyed it...I do think they are rushing the pace too much, but if they dragged it out over more episodes, a bunch of people would probably complain (I'm not one of those people). They had a lot to cover in 2 seasons, but I also understand that the actors probably want to do new projects, etc.

I don't want to send Trubisky to the wolves, so Glennon is a needed piece right now, imo. If we play Trubisky too early, I think you do more harm then good. Maybe he overcomes it, maybe he doesn't. I'd much rather let Glennon go out and play mediocre (I hope he does well, but I think he can be mediocre) for a while until we aren't in contention. Trubisky has had more time to get reps, etc, and then turn things over to him (with lower expectations, etc and more prepared to play and read defenses). Putting someone out too soon could actually mean they regress because they aren't yet ready to learn. Trubisky isn't perfect, that said, he's shown a lot of skills that make you excited. We just need to calm that excited. I do think he needs to get more reps though (he got a ton in that 1st game...not enough in the 2nd). My presumption is he will get more reps in the 3rd game (probably play most of the 2nd half) and then get tons in the 4th game. And if Glennon is bad, then at least we've given Trubisky a few weeks on the sideline (and lowered expectations due to Glennon's poor play). And in the unlikely scenario that Glennon is really good...well I'll deal with that problem. I should point out that we should expect struggles...new system..new offense, minimal playmakers at the wide receiving position (somehow I hope White becomes good but I'm not holding my breath).

QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Aug 17, 2017 -> 01:10 PM) Even the walks have stopped. He's one for his last twenty with 10 strike outs and no walks. He's not struggling, he's drowning. Anyone still convinced he'll climb out of this is deluded. You don't have to take the exact opposite point either, but now it's time to seriously consider that Moncada is a complete and total bust. It has gotten so bad that the Buxton comparisons are starting to look generous. I hope he turns it around, but watching him play leaves almost zero room for encouragement. Lol. Any hot take over 20 at bats should be totally and utterly ignored.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Aug 17, 2017 -> 09:43 AM) Got me too. Have to keep an eye on that Jose Abreu fella. Delmonico looks great at the plate so far. Really like his bat speed and that swing looks awesome when he's sitting on a pitch, very sweet swing. Don't know what to expect from him so I'll just sit back and enjoy the ride. IMHO, the next Sox contender will probably need some help from a few current roster players, maybe Delmonico is one of them? We'll see. A guy like Delmonico becoming a good "DH" to me speeds up the window we can contend. Similarly, Avi actually being good, also speeds up the window. That gives you two solid complimentary position players, before bringing on guys who you are hoping to be "stars". We need that...depth matters. You hope Davidson / Leury others maybe emerge too (even if you get guys who show more as being platoon/bench guys..that can help). Of course we also need to hit on some of the top guys as well.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 17, 2017 -> 07:43 AM) .825 would be pretty shocking. His MiLB OPS for his career is .773. He put up a .768 in his 100 games at Charlotte. He will go through some pretty serious regression here soon. He has a ton of raw power though. For some reason, whenever I have seen him (albeit on limited ocassions), he always struck me as a guy that could hit and who would actually hit better at the major league level. Quick hands, very pretty swing and seems to unload on pitches in the zone (something you generally see more of at the major league level). No idea what it is, but he looked the part to me in spring training and continues to look the part offensively now. I could never figure out how he wasn't putting up better numbers in the minors. It could actually be that at AAA he generally sees a lot more "junk" and that is something he struggles with more then good ole power pitching you'll see relatively often at the major league level (with guys around the zone more, etc). Could all be a bunch of horse s*** too though...haha.

QUOTE (FT35 @ Aug 14, 2017 -> 01:28 PM) Love your posts and certainly don't mean any offense by my thought and don't really aim this to entirely to you, but I always thought it was interesting how people could take such a small sample size out of such a long season on a player so young and let themselves make general assumptions about that player's success. During his development years, there were COUNTLESS 10 game periods (roughly 30 ab's) when Paulie couldn't hit the broad side of a barn if you held it still for him and he turned out to be a pretty decent fastball hitter. It's the story of slumps...some all-star caliber players stay in them for weeks. Some start their career with a long one. Maybe it's just because there have been so many "top prospects" to bust--people already sit high on the skepticism meter on new players. To me it takes 3-4 abysmal YEARS of being in and out of the lineup, up and down between MLB and MiLB for me to start wondering if someone just can't adjust to MLB pitching. In other words, the Gordon Beckham story! Even then, there's been too many cases where a player figures it out later to end up being able to contribute on an MLB team. 30 at bats though...10 games...whatever--that's tough! Mike Trout was 4 for his first 30 (.133) with 8k's. With us--Moncada was 4 for his first 30 (.133) with 11k's. Someone with Moncada's hype got hyped because he CAN turn gear up for MLB caliber pitching. Just because he hasn't done it in the MLB games doesn't mean he hasn't hit his fair shares of 99mph fastballs between pitching machines and facing some of the top talent in the game at the minor/international level. I'd be more concerned if he couldn't hit a change-up--but even then, I'd give him a few years before I assume he would perpetually struggle with them. This exact post is why I would like the White Sox to find a way to target guys like Joc Pederson. Dodgers have a glut in the outfield...will probably consider moving Joc and while the Sox don't have anything to offer, I would be all for being a 3rd team and potentially leveraging prospects to facilitate a transaction that worked for all sides. If people want to think patience, think Joey Gallo, ultimate top prospect, very early call up, saw his stock slip a bit and then re-emerged this year as a great player. He was always really young though and it wasn't that long until he re-emerged, but I'm sure if it were a Sox prospect, we would have went that entire next season talking about how Gallo was a bust.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 17, 2017 -> 10:07 AM) That is missing a guy who has 40 homer and 40 double potential, plus seems to have a feel for hitting for average at the same time. He makes contact, and has a K rate in the 20% range so far this season. It is a tough call. I think that Moncada has a higher ceiling because of his speed, but I think Eloy is much closer to his ceiling. If I had to bet on it, I would guess that Moncada may have a path that more resembles Avi's while Eloy could be a guy who could hit more like Bryant and hit from day one. I can't put Moncada and Avi in the same sentence, because Avi has zero OBP skills, while Moncada has ability to have elite OBP skills. Reality is, Moncada should be good (even with a high k-rate)...however, if he gets his k-rate in check (and presumingly as a result hits the ball with solid / strong contact on a regular basis, while leveraging his power tools, etc), we are talking about someone who can be elite. Jimenez has elite skills as well...more raw in the sense that he needs to prove himself at higher levels...but someone who has proven more from an ability to reduce k's, etc. I continue to say, it is very very difficult to be a very good offensive player if you strike out a lot. Similarly, if you can't draw walks at all, your ability to be well above average offensively is also limited. The nice thing about quite a few of the newcomers to the Sox system is they have demonstrated strong walk abilities (which can be hard to teach) but most do have the flaw of high k-rate's. That said, you can hope with time/development, you can see improvements to those factors on the down-side and potentially more noticeable improvements. I continue to be of the believe that advanced stats don't accurately account/negate for the strikeout.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 17, 2017 -> 08:20 AM) Yeah, I don't think he will ever really have 40 homer power, but I think he will have some pop (maybe 20-25 homers on a season to season basis) but he is going to turn groundballs into singles, singles into doubles, and doubles into triples. If they let him run, he can be Henderson or Raines disruptive to a defense. To turn ground balls into singles...you need to make contact. Not saying he won't learn, but a 25-30% k-rate for him would not be an effective use of his speed.

QUOTE (Tony @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 05:55 PM) I think he's a better prospect right now than Moncada ever has been. There, I said it. I agree. He is more complete. More raw in the sense of distance to bigs still, but seems more likely a guy who won't strike out 30% of his at bats. Then again, we all know how anti strikeout I am. None of this is based upon Yoan's current production...I don't overlook a few weeks experience (for a guy who is raw and needs to make certain adjustments).

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Aug 15, 2017 -> 09:27 AM) Much better chance of seeing the White Sox no-hit I'll be honest...I'm okay with that (would love to see some history).

Taking my kids to see their first baseball game! Hopefully they see a White Sox no-hitter.

He stunk it up and got into a funk, but he was pretty amazing in college. Well worth the claim, imo.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 11, 2017 -> 08:39 PM) When it comes to the Royals, I don't care about draft position or progress from young players. Just sweep their asses. Especially those two corner infielders they have. I don't care about draft position period. I want our young players to do well and for the Sox to win. This isn't the NBA. #1 pick or #3 pick...big whoop. Young players playing better advances our rebuild effort much more then the difference in a couple of picks.

I really liked Trubisky's post game quotes.

QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 11, 2017 -> 07:38 AM) Not if they want to rebuild and get a higher pick and keep your franchise QB healthy for next year. I mean Bears fans will be miserable either way. Bears starting o-line, if healthy, is pretty good. The Bears also have good running backs and an okay defense. If Trubisky plays like he did last week and continues to elevate and make quick progress...he could burst onto the scene (great problem to have). I still throw everything out cause it is essentially one half of a preseason game, but the raw tools stood out. I really didn't appreciate his athleticism until last night and I liked the fact that he typically kept his eyes down the field. But to read pro defenses and adjust to a pro offense is going to take a lot of time. Loved how much time he got in the game and the fact that our oline kept him upright. Week 2 will be a great test as defenses will do a bit of scheming, etc. And for Glennon...it was a couple lousy drives, he shouldn't take it too hard. Use it as motivation for this weeks practice. Trubisky could have had a few more receptions because his receivers / TE's had a few drops. Cohen played well.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 06:09 AM) I don't think he did anything to warrant the suspension. Of course I didn't think Beltre should have been ejected for moving the on deck thing. People need to relax and laugh about some things. I don't know why everything is taken so seriously and offensively. There are plenty of things to take that way, but the littlest things now are made such a big deal of. I thought it was hillarious and I don't understand why Joe West was suspended for this.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 10, 2017 -> 07:15 AM) He'll be the 5th starter for a team next year, that's for sure. I would be okay if we signed him to a 1yr deal and bet on him being solid and trading him at the deadline. We would have got something for him if he hadn't been hurt for a while. He isn't great, but he's a serviceable back of the rotation guy who can throw innings.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 08:35 PM) The Moncada, Delmonico, Anderson show is tearing it up. Great to see. Also Leury and Yolmer with 2 RBI apiece. Youth will be served. Miguel Gonzales pitched a gem. Sox may still get someing for him . U never know. Oh I forgot, EAT s*** ASSTROS ! I love it. I hope we win every game here on out because our young kids are kicking butt!!!

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 8, 2017 -> 09:28 AM) Still need 1) reliable ICBM launch and 2) reentry, which is a big technical challenge, but yeah, it's one step closer. The unanimous UN sanctions announced yesterday probably won't do anything. They're dead set on getting a deliverable bomb. Short of a military invasion that will cost hundreds of thousands of lives along with trillions of dollars, I'm not really sure what anyone can do. I also don't really think NK would ever use a nuclear weapon in a first strike because they know it would be the end of them. I also hope that they have a decent command and control structure so that a single insane megalomaniac ruler doesn't have the sole, unchallengable power to launch nuclear weapons. Your last comment regarding hope is completely nuts. It stands against how their dictator operates. Clearly he can and will do whatever it is he wants to do.

Rosen had a lot of great points, unfortunate people latched onto the headline and not the meat, but reporters are lazy.

QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 8, 2017 -> 10:37 AM) Bears football will be bad enough where I hope Chicago media is not going to cover Cutler in Miami all year. They have spent a lot of time the last day covering him. It shouldn't matter. Whether Jay kicks butt or stinks, the reality is his time had come in Chicago. There was zero reason to keep him around this year.

OMG at the media. Ripping Jay already, based upon his press conference.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 7, 2017 -> 08:58 AM) There have been many-a highly touted QBs who the league has thought could teach them accuracy, so I'm glad it's showed in pads. I bring it up because his first few days had a lot of nfl media "LOL he has trouble with snaps" contrasted to "Watson is the greatest QB ever", it has since flipped to now people discussing Trubisky on rise and may start sooner than people think, while the texans camp is about savage playing better and likely to be a starter. That said, O'Brien has been quoted as saying Watson is the best rookie QB he has ever been around. The talk of Kizer has been high as well. It is still way too early. They all are crap compared to what they will need to be, but the fact Trubisky has shown laser accuracy is nice. The real work is in actually putting the ball in the right spot. The fumbling stuff was absurd, but it does go back to, it is going to take time for him (and most college QB's) to be ready to play. Taking a snap in the NFL and how you read defenses is just so much different and it isn't something you can really "scout". The ability to project that skill is so difficult. Evaluating whether a player has the physical skills...not so much.

QUOTE (rodh @ Aug 7, 2017 -> 03:32 PM) Maybe in regards to power and plate discipline but IMO Beer has less swing and miss and I value his LH bat. Did Burrell play college ball with aluminum bats? He did, but he was arguably the most dominanting freshman bat in NCAA history.

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Aug 7, 2017 -> 02:42 PM) Naw. You don't need to be a pro blacksmith to chip off a chunk of obsidian for an arowhead or dagger. He's definitely making dragon armor. Or maybe like a mech that can fight The Mountain. I presume Gendry was on the boat with Theon and we will find that out in the next episode and he'll help make the weapons out of dragonglass.