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QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Dec 17, 2009 -> 01:39 AM) Why are you always so convinced of an ulterior motive? Do you really think 100 people sat down and worked out this crazy plan where 41 of them were going to vote against the bill and 59 of them would vote for it. So then in an effort to secure all necessary votes a bunch of senators would get fat paychecks for their constituents. But, for how incredibly complicated a plan like that is and how organized/intelligent those 100 people would need to be, they write a terrible healthcare bill for yucks just to say they passed something so they can all get reelected. I think the US Senate are much better at their jobs than people give them credit for (especially individually), but I can assure you that body doesn't work well together on anything... much less a crazy tinfoil hat plan like what you're suggesting. You only have to look at the history of this bill to see that whenever one even threatens to hold out, the lines start burning asking what they want or need. "We have to get this passed no matter what" - and anyone who needs anything - who even hesitates - are going to get whatever they want out of this. It's pretty simple, actually.

All this is posturing is much ado about nothing. It's going to pass and no one can stop it. Which is the way it was going to be starting November 22. They all have to feign this preposterous outrage so that they can get thier pet s*** put in the bill. Meh. It's a suck bill, they will do what it takes to get that original 60 to pass and get everything they want back in for reconciliation.

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Dec 16, 2009 -> 09:08 PM) If you're trying someone for the 9/11 attacks. Where would they be most likely to be convicted? I'm gonna guess where people were the most directly affected. They do not belong in the civil court system. Period. The only reason they are doing this is politics.

Quit breathing. That would solve the problem.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 16, 2009 -> 05:28 PM) That's not what I said at al, or at least not what I was trying to say. What I said was that changing the rules would be judged as evil. Thus, because the rules are unchangeable, you're wrong, and the Senate can't do anything about those efforts. My point is the majority knows there will be delay tactics. They're all surprised by this? No. It's all appearances and games at this point. If they wanted that defense bill passed, they'd pass it. They're not because they are holding that over people's heads for political points and power.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 16, 2009 -> 05:14 PM) Right. That's why it's a lame argument. I DO think it's ridiculous they are trying him in Manhattan though. Why spend the hundreds and hundreds of millions in security just to do it there? Why not utilize a federal district that isn't in the most congested area of the world? Politics.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 16, 2009 -> 05:10 PM) This is the Senate. No, they can't. They can only do that if they do the evil thing and break all the rules, which is, as I said, evil. Sure. Now that they actually filibuster something, it's "evil". What a partisan hack thing to say.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Dec 16, 2009 -> 01:45 PM) In Bid To 1) This is really lame. 2) If a DEMOCRAT had postponed a defense spending bill like this, he would be called weak on terror and un-American. The Democrats run the Senate. If they cared about the troops so much, they could have slotted time for that bill, but they want to shift the blame. It won't work.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 16, 2009 -> 02:32 PM) I think the worst part is that they just did it to be destructive. They smashed like 5 other cars on the block. A week before Christmas. Jerks. Does insurance cover it?

QUOTE (lostfan @ Dec 16, 2009 -> 01:58 PM) lol. I had said I didn't care, we do that kind of stuff all the time. I know, I was just kidding. BigSqwert is a dou..... doubly good poster. I have to kid him any time I can. I don't get many.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Dec 16, 2009 -> 01:52 PM) god Coburn is such an asshole. Oklahoma has the 2 douchiest senators in the entire body. You better not say that. Oh wait, you're a mod. It's ok.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 16, 2009 -> 10:53 AM) Does anyone know a good place to get car windows in the chicagoland area? Someone thought it would be cool to smash my wife's car windows out last night. Ugh... people are stupid.

QUOTE (KipWellsFan @ Dec 15, 2009 -> 11:15 PM) Do you feel morally superior to all Senators? Actually, yes. And I say that with honesty, integrity, and no ego whatsoever. Now, "all" is a blanket. But I do feel like I have a s***load more ethical morality then these politicians.

I don't disagree with any of you on the last couple of pages in this thread. They're all whoring out to get their pet projects protected. Ben Nelson is being a little b****, too. Unfortunately, this is the way the game is played in Washington, and the bill is going to be the s***tiest legislation in American history.

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Dec 15, 2009 -> 04:18 PM) Another reason he should be booted from the caucus. He's not even pretending to be part of the party anymore, why should he get the benefit of party seniority? Yet, you all love Arlen Spector. Whatever. They're all (yes, NSS, ALL) pieces of s*** who get paid by the highest bidder whenever they are on the "fringe" of any issue. Lieberman saw what Landfill (Landreiu (sp)) got and now he wants his state paid as well, while mentioning that CT is hugely insurance based.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Dec 15, 2009 -> 12:49 PM) huh? what did I miss? You're not supposed to call anyone douche's. Or assholes. Or s*** for brains. Unless you're an admin. Naw, I understand why you'd say what you did. I equate Harry Reid to the same standard you all do Lieberman.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 15, 2009 -> 10:55 AM) Doesn't matter. Might as well merge the 2 threads as both parties, with very few exceptions, are nothing but corporate shills. You're exactly right - which was the point I was trying to make.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Dec 15, 2009 -> 10:54 AM) What thread am I in? Wa Waaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh. The point to BigSqwert is welcome to my world - that's why I cannot ever support one part over another. They are all idiot liars. /back to crying over nothing again.

UVerse here has been damn good.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 15, 2009 -> 07:16 AM) I'm officially done with the DNC. They'll never get a penny out of me ever again. I'll only support progressive candidates for Congress and most likely Green Party candidates for President. Well, I'll be damned, you discovered that they will lie and say anything to get elected. Go figure.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Dec 14, 2009 -> 07:44 PM) Phillippe Aumont.. a Canadian... hometown guy.. Toronto loves him.. makes sense. I can't believe the Phils got to hold onto Drebak (their top pitching prospect) in all of this. Man Seattle got way more dangerous and it makes sense for the Phillies as Lee was going to test the market and already rejected an extension from them. I know Aumont really well. He's got a lot of upside as he started playing baseball at 14. Plus arm but he's got location issues. He can throw some heat.

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Dec 14, 2009 -> 06:59 AM) More responsible would be for us to have less than two offspring per family because the human population is already to large to be considered sustainable. I already blew that with my second kid, of course. If that's what happened, you really screwed up.

1.3145123532461235612362344568324357 kids. No more, no less.

QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 11:22 AM) Had one for my back over the summer. Not that bad. Just a tad odd and uncomfortable. Maybe it's worse when you can see what they're doing. I had one on my hand and arm and them sticking that damn thing in, twisting and turning the electrode, was pretty damn painful.

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Dec 10, 2009 -> 08:51 AM) So for the past few weeks I've had a bit of numbness down my right arm, and found out during the week, that I've basically got a bit of a pinched nerveon the right side of my neck from a physiotherpist. And it's really the first time I've had physio in my life, and then he told me that this was only basically a short - term pain relief (what he did, he gave a pretty damn good pounding), and that if I improved my posture (sucked my pelvis in and tilt my neck upwards) that's pretty much the best long - term solution for it. Anyone else ever been told that they have bad posture? So they are sure that it's your neck? Did they give you an EMG? Oh for the love of God those hurt, bad.