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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 11:10 AM) LOL I guess they already know who will win tomorrow. http://www.obamaimpeachment.org/ That's absolutely ridiculous.

QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 10:30 AM) Well, I disagree. If you knew it was a ludicrous statement why continue to post things like this? I'm personally sick of it and that's why I've decided to call it out. I realize personally attacking posters now makes me a hypocrite, but I don't think it's on an even plain. It's offensive to call people mindless Obama supporters, it's effectively calling them stupid. Most of the issues people take up on obama supporters on this site are in regards to their posts about McCain, the candidate, not the posters. No, they're not "stupid", they're just perpetuating the divisions. THAT is what's stupid, not them.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 10:44 AM) And I think you are probably wrong on the 'support' for GWB. Unfortunately, most people I know were once again voting for the lesser of two evils, not for the choice they really wanted. I have defended GWB on some things in the past because I was tired of seeing him constantly attacked. I didn't defend him in everything, because there is alot I didn't and don't like. I just thought Kerry would have been worse. I am not saying nobody wanted GWB, I just think most people DIDN'T want Kerry. Or Gore. QUOTE (Soxy @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 10:46 AM) I'm just saying on this website that's what it's like. I'm not going to generalize to the real world because, frankly, I don't come into tons of contact with republicans any more. But I remember tons of 4 more years!!!! threads around here. And easily as much swiftboating of Kerry as there was of negative stuff about McCain. Again, when people feel like they're going to win they get annoying fast. You're both right on the money with your points.

QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 10:17 AM) Yes, I just have to cry for the poor conservatives on this site who've had a tough time with Obama supporters. Give me a break. Was there a more obnoxious, more baiting, personally attacking post in this entire thread than this one? Not even close. Now if "They" are going to steal your vote is = to this how? Voter suppression is real. Voter registration is real. In my opinion, one is much more effective in f'ing our process than the other, but they are both wrong. ANd so when the conservative media shoves acorn down our throats - they are righteous and patriotic in their defense of the american electoral system. But when liberal media brings up how this anti-acorn movement has brought on lawsuits that are voter suppression, its race baiting. Its a joke. A million columnists in it for the dems, how about the million conservative columnists acting like the themes you are talking about are happening when its just not true, or not a national theme. Is the fact that people are legitimately still hypothesizing about the bradley effect, more Arlen Specter proposing it as reason that JSM could win PA not proof that race is a legitimate theme in this election. When people as in-tuned right now as NS need links, that means there was never a big story on it, a big example during this election of what you are talking about. I have no doubt you'll be able to find links, but with thousands of media outlets across the country, lets not act like this has been an overarching theme. Democrats have a good candidate they like in this election. Republicans don't. It's a role reversal of 04. So don't act like when democrats praise or defend their candidate they are sheep, and when you all criticize Obama while saying McCain sucks you are the crazy political independent that don't drink the kool-aid. Except, most Republicans don't like GWB. Kerry was just that bad, IMO.

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 10:18 AM) I think he's using the term in the sense that he doesn't wanna rely on them. Say what you want about Obama's campaign, but in terms of GOTV effort, they are leaving nothing on the road this time around. I agree. It also sounds like McCain's got a decent ground game, even compared to GWB, but it's nothing like Obama's.

QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 10:24 AM) right, yes, no one in this forum has ever criticized Obama, there's never been threads specifically saying what we don't like about him, there was never a FISA thread with 100% of the Obama supporters in here pissed. That never happened... And by the way, northside, I respect how difficult it is to be a mod on this forum and I think you are doing a good job and you are a good poster. But you are incredibly one-sided on who you decide to take issue on. It's heavily slated towards talking down the Obama posters on here. When the conservative posters on here do one of their many personally attacking, offensive posts while crying about what a tough time they are having because of those damn obama supporters, your response is always a neutral, hey it's not everyone, i agree with you on x. When an Obama poster does something that never attacks a conservative poster but usually McCain or a conservative figure in a mocking light, ala AHB or in this case BigSwert, you are quick to ask them to stop. Ok, look. This is over but the voting. The snide bulls*** has to stop. Yes, I've been a fine (blah) participant. It's terribly one-sided for BOTH sides, and it's ridiculous.

They were going over the early voting numbers by party last night. Democrats have by far and away voted early more then Republicans. I wonder how all that will play out. Axelrod thinks they're "gravy" votes. I tend to disagree with that: but I do think it's a tremendous advantage nonetheless.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 09:31 AM) You need to get off your holier than thou attitude as if anyone who is a Democrat or liberal is 100% blindly supporting their party or candidate while Republicans are better able to be objective. Give me a break. Stop painting people with a broad brush by applying your theory based on a couple people that post on this message board. You're doing it yourself... go look in the mirror a bit. And it's more then just "message boards"... but whatever. I'm pissing you off, so I'll just leave it alone. The bottom line is this: I don't care what party you are, objectivity was thrown out the window 8 years ago (and some of the seeds planted before that, see impeachment). And it sucks. It's a lot of what's wrong with America today.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 09:19 AM) I've had to live through 8 years of hell so I'm going to enjoy the next 8. The difference is, BS, even we people who tend to be "republicans" would defend GWB but would also call out his crap. And there's been a lot of it. This "I'm going to throw everything I can in people's face" stuff is just obscene. Is there any wonder that people have trouble with our political system, or, to say it another way, why everything is so polarized? GWB was a bad president. But to mock everything about a certain ideology is disgusting. BTW, I'm glad to know that the last 8 years can effect you so much. "It's been hell". Yikes.

As I said last night, Obama followers have done more to make me not stand the guy then Obama's arrogance himself.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 08:40 AM) Because that's the only reason that Colin Powell endorsed Obama according to several right wing pundits. *YAWN*

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Nov 2, 2008 -> 08:28 PM) If he allows all the Bush tax cuts to expire it will be the largest tax increase in history. Certainly not a 'tax cut' like the media/obama campaign are telling voters. His tax cut isn't even a tax cut, it's a $500 giveaway. He has also proposed massive spending increases and his only answer to "How exactly are you going to pay for this?" is tax rich people. If I had to make a prediction, which I will right now, it is that Obama allows the tax cuts to expire for a large number of people, not just those making $250k or more. However the media and Obama will refer to it as merely a rate adjustment and Obama fans will be here arguing with us about how it's not a tax increase. ^^^^^ It's already started. They're going to blame Bush. Again, they already have.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 2, 2008 -> 07:59 PM) Richardson said nothing about that being the threshold. Read the quote. The Obama plan has been published, and many sites are there doing the math for you. I wouldn't go and take the words of someone not even in the campaign and take a single number out of context to mean much. That said, I certainly HOPE that Obama doesn't lower that actual threshold that low. I don't think he will. I could turn out to be wrong. There's audio of it somewhere; I heard it.

The point is that Obama's surrogates have been preaching the same kind of hate the whole election cycle. I'm not condoning what McCain or his surrogates did or said, but yet, Obama always has to be portrayed in this pristine, glowing light and I'm so sick of the defense of everything this man and his campaign does as rose smelling s*** that I can just vomit all over the rose s***. It makes me totally disrespect Obama, and those of you who blindly follow this idiot I can thank for that. At least when all of this began, I could respect the guy but not like his policy. Not anymore after watching all of this unfold. The hatred for the other side is just obscene.

QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 2, 2008 -> 11:57 AM) no Of course it's "different". It always is.

Well, so we never have to worry about earthquakes in Dallas, Texas, right? Nope. We had two of them last night. I think I felt one, it felt like the washing machine was on spin cycle.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 31, 2008 -> 08:19 PM) Yet when had the chance at an equal playing field in the campaign finance area, he punted quickly. Way to practice what you preach Barack. Somehow, it's always ok for Barack to do whatever the f*** he wants and never get questioned.

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Oct 31, 2008 -> 12:43 PM) That's a funny video,lol...we need to laugh a little because this election is getting real ugly with the effigys and with Hannity,Rushbo et al trying to scare people with this nonsense that Obama is a foreign terrorist...Obama/Biden 08 I don't think they've EVER said that. I don't listen to them, but they certainly have their right to draw an association to William Ayers if no one else will.

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Oct 31, 2008 -> 12:55 PM) I don't agree,if you can't debate with passion (not insults) it's not worth it...I ll be posting elsewhere Woo wee! Thanks for sparing us the crap. But, I think it's pretty telling that you feel like you have to insult others who disagree with you.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 31, 2008 -> 01:14 PM) We got email when I was a freshman, but you had to go to a campus-wide computer lab to check it. My sophomore year we got an internet connection as a campus. Email wasn't used by too many people, let alone profs. I wish it had been, that would have been nice. You old bastard. You went to college before emails.

John McCain = Bob Dole.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 31, 2008 -> 08:36 AM) Enjoy the spooks! Anyone got any good costumes they are putting on this year? You already came pre-built with one. *rimshot*

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 30, 2008 -> 08:58 AM) I don't know how you can disagree that McCain has had a terribly undisciplined campaign what with the constant campaign bickering getting leaked out as well as new theme every week. I can't disagree with that at all. It's why McCain is going to lose.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 30, 2008 -> 08:41 AM) Is it just me or does their campaign focus on something completely different every other day? Ayers, ACORN, socialism, taxes, national security, the LA Times, etc. I've never seem such awful message discipline for a presidential campaign. Selective memory, as well as selective categorization.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 29, 2008 -> 07:07 PM) You poor, poor SOB. I'm sorry for you. Does the big, bright McDonalds there still do the 50 piece McNugget on nights after Purdue football games? Getting in and out of town is only a problem if it's snowing usually. Don't you miss the whole town in like two exits on I-65?