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Crochet shouldn’t start tomorrow either.

So what does this say about Fedde’s value? His numbers aren’t that dissimilar, although his salary is. Fedde’s WAR is certainly better.

Was there a reason why he was pulled? Or did Pedro just decide to rest him.

yea but they have to pay inheritance tax on anything above, what, $13 mill? And that tax rate is a lot higher than the long term capital gains rate.

Yes, it was senseless to acquire them and not play them. I don't trust anything out of Charlotte. That place needs a makeover. Certainly can trust any statistic; maybe they can watch/scout the players and make judgments that way. I'd rather them move the players onto the major league club straight from AA.

And 7 years later, Tommy Kahnle is still on the Yankees... And on a side note, a couple of rule 5 eligible A ball players rounded out that trade. Hahn was such a putz.

Will some team please give us their #10 prospect for Pham?

Eder had been stalling with the Marlins when the Sox acquired him. You really have to be careful with the prospects: when they start heading south it's often a hard irredeemable drop. I'm hoping the Montgomery situation really is lingering back issues, and not just has talent hitting a wall.

While that's true, he didn't give up a lot to get Fletcher, De Loach or Julks. (oh I guess Mena could be something). But then again, why trade for them if you won't play them? These guys were all as major league ready as they were ever going to be. Heck Julks is on the main roster and Grifol refuses to play him. And as far as I can tell Charlotte is like some black hole that just sucks in players; does anyone ever actually improve by playing there? And are they going to continue with the Benitendi dog and pony show for the next 3 seasons? I don't care about the 25% chance that he hits .750 OPS somewhere else. He's not doing that here. DFA him (and a lot of others).

This guy for the Mariners hits corners all night and throws a 95 mph heater. He'll make mincemeat of the Sox hitters, unless he gets bored. When Thorpe is on, he hits corners and is tough to hit. But hen the heater is 91mph, there's no room for error as said above.

The organization is a debacle because of bad drafts and a lazy international effort; Eloy, Andeson and Moncada turning to crap overnight; and Hahnber's outrageous misuse of what were a lot of free agent dollars. There were other wastes such as squandering 1/2 of Crochet's service time so Hahnber could ram him into the bullpen, optioning Kimbrel over Rodon, and others. This wasn't Getz. Getz did a lousy job putting this team together this year: Maladando, Nicky Lopez - I mean, come on. That's just not a serious effort. He made several misjudgments in the bullpen. But in the end, it's not debilitating because with better moves this team would have won, what, 60 games maybe? None of this set the team back much (unlike many of Hahn's moves). And big part of why this team is historically bad instead of just bad is the raging incompetent Pedro Grifol (handpicked by Hahn). Now his job is to fix this mess that he inherited. He's got to get moving. He can start by making great trades the next few days (kicking the can is not the answer) and just cutting bait of the known stiffs and bring up the guys who have been hanging out a long while in AAA ( Julks, DeLoach, Colas, Sosa may not be the answer, but play them and let them prove it first).

If Crochet gets hurt, he has nothing. His request should not be a surprise. Sox should have been on top of this. But heck, even now they won't give him an extra days rest (it's ridiculous to throw Fedde/Crochet Saturday and Sunday). The Braves treated Sale and Lopez much more gingerly than the Sox have treated Crochet.

It tells me that we may need to reset our expectations. At least I know I need to reset mine. He’s not as good as Robert, but he’s not that far off either, at least by his WAR. Tampa did avoid some pitfalls such as rule five eligible A ball players.

Are the Sox actually pitching Fedde and Crochet this weekend; not even a bullpen game to give an extra day of rest? Crochet making demands isn't good (although sometimes Jon Heyman's information is about as accurate as if it came from Paul Heyman). You're up Fedde and I guess Kopech (who has been pitching well).

3 1-run losses to the Rangers. I trust there will be several DFAs in a week.

Yeah, New York too with Rice.

He hits lefties OK and some contenders are really bad at first base. He would be a platoon. Wouldn’t get much for him. Doesn’t matter. Those guys just need to go.

I agree with you. Fletcher just may have needed a little time and a reset. And we’re also spinning our wheels with sheets, Eloy and really Vaughn, although I do think they’ll move Vaughn before Tuesday.

Bowden’s Fedde suggestion is 2 40 prospects. absolutely ridiculous. The Robert suggestion is overall light, although I do like Crawford. The dodger plan is a little heavy on major league ready players. They could be a steal, but they aren’t performing all that great. And the Sox do have a couple of outfielders in AAA that they really need to give an extended look, although most people have decided that they’re terrible (which they may be).

Montas was lurking near, if not in, the top 100 when traded him away. Agree with you though that there are prospects on every farm that are misevaluated. But you have to have the chops and out in the hard work to find those guys, which hopefully the Sox are doing. The idea is to get them at a discount, such as a throw in in a Jake Peavy trade (Montas).

On the other hand, this is desperation season, and the off-season is not desperation season. Plus, crochet is really the only elite pitcher on the market. That will not be the case in the off-season. As for his endurance, it’s less of an issue for teams that have certainty that they will be in the playoffs because they can rest him up and prepare him for October. there are plausible reasons why the value may be good in the off-season. But you can’t keep kicking the can down the road. We’re gonna do the same thing with Robert. And last off-season the Cease return really came out light.

In no way should Thorpe be untouchable. is it normal for the GM to be on the road with the team in this situation?

Grifol ,there is reason why there are 8 relievers in the bullpen.

Hard to believe they can square up on Peralta's 89MPH 4 seamer. Use the worst pitcher on the team for multiple innings in a tight game. They don't give themselves a chance.

Have you seen his numbers? They're worse than the Sox prospects we're grousing about in AAA.