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In the spirit of 2023 Sox-Fest.

They won't let him walk and will still get nothing.

The only GM to lead the team to 2 consecutive playoff appearances in the history of the White Sox will start by saying that no one is more disappointed in the start than he is.

Over 30? Sign.

Lose on a walk; the White Sox way. A result of their Voros-era analytics.

“Ultimately we want someone who played a key part in a winning organization." Rick Hahn when asked about hiring a new manager. 10/3/22

"They don't quit" is a sometimes reasonable mantra for an amateur team that is outmanned. It's absolutely patronizing for a professional team.

It appears that there is no bottom...just a grand abyss.

Could have been a nice time to give Remillard a try.

wrong thread.

Kind of like the Sox signing Colome (who, thusfar, has pitched a lot like Diekman). Then there was Hector Noesi, whom the Sox tagged him for a pile or runs one afternoon. The Rangers released him the next day, then the Sox signed him and he was actually decent decent for the rest of the season.

The bloggers, as a group, have long held a soft-spot for Hahn. For years, they would blame KW, JR, Lauman and others, but not Hahn. But this is ridiculous. Yes they can provide depth for what looks like a 70-75 win team.

The vitriol goes to Hahn because he has earned that vitriol.

Katz, yes. Best available scapegoat (not that he is free of culpability). Hahn, no.

Any firing that doesn't include Williams and/or Hahn (it should be both), is a scapegoat firing.

Let one of the overpaid stiffs arm fall off instead.

good lord

Beating the sad-sack Royals won't mean much on its own; but if we follow that up with series wins v. Astros and Guardians, it gets interesting for this division.

This is more of a "Fire Grifol" thing. But since Grifol is Hahn's guy and he hired him..... While it does look a bit petty in a 17-4 win, he did post it contemporaneous with the offense. I'm pretty flexible on the "Fire Hahn" concept.

Of course we'll be on the other side of this one, so it's unlikely Hahn will do that kind of damage. Well, I suppose he could if he ties our better prospects with, say Lynn or Joe Kelly, to get the salary off of the books. But I think it's more likely that he just squanders: ties Giolito with Kelly for a couple of Rule 5 guys. Now if he takes June and July seriously, and has his pro scouting department (such as it is) on high alert, and works tirelessly and uses his leverage to negotiate the best offer, he could improve the team. I'll believe that when I see it.

My money is on that this will be focused on moving salary, with incoming prospects secondary. JR will then hunker down to the Royals model. Giolito must have aggrieved their thin skins in some way (arb., I suppose). They could also consider not rushing Crochet into this bullpen.

I'm sure Rick will be scouring the bullpens of the potential targets. Of course, he should have his scouts dispatched readying for this. But that's too much work.

A serious organization just doesn't have multiple players like this; and the bullpen is teeming with them as well.

Losing Wednesday's game was ridiculous; but so is this team, so I guess it fits.

By my count, he's made 3 really good moves. Fire him.