no we weren't patient enough with miller and artest. but i sure in the hell didn't want to see brand go and was very pissed when he got traded and i don't remember anyone else who was happy with it either. so 1) how much of this is just a result of poor management, and 2) how much can artest's and miller's current successes be attributed to the bulls or how much are they a result of their current systems they're in?