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QUOTE(Capn12 @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:19 AM) I'm not saying we shouldn't have retaliated ssi...was moreso a smartass resposne back at mr. genius. Don't think he got the jist of what DBAH0 was saying...trust me, I wanted Javy to plant a ball in someones back. What got me alittle irritated from their posts is that they get on a rookie instead of a veteran (Vazquez) who basically saw what was going on and didn't even do anything whatsoever. Why not yell at Javy then? Why sent a pitcher with no control and try and hit a batter and basically cost some fines and suspensions?

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:13 AM) i have 'ace' you might be too young to understand how the game is played I've played the game almost all my life (didn't get to a league until I was 12) and have a father and a grandfather who have played in minor league ball (never made the pros) for a long time and I don't know how the game is played? I tell you what I can give you a 9 year old kid (my cousin) who probably knows more about baseball and how it's played than 30-50+ year old grown men anyday of the week. Age is a very overrated thing. Hell, IMO, DJ knows more about the game than Hawk does (even being a better hitter in his career.)

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:10 AM) uh, if hitting one guy is going to cost you an entire game you weren't going to win it anyways. Then suspending your manager and other players (Vazquez, tracey, Montero, whoever) wouldn't?

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:08 AM) you're joking right? well, personally i don't want the sox to be some pussy team thats afraid to retaliate after their players are getting intentional hit. Have you bother reading this thread? Your way off base here mr. enius..

QUOTE(Jimbo @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 12:53 AM) then throw behind him...make it look obvious to us OMG... GMAFB.

Wow.. looked around some other sox sites and this is really being talked about.. QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 12:31 AM) Is Tracey getting sent down because of this. No. Pollite will be coming off the DL, and Tracey was brought up to replace Politte. He goes down. No because of this. You honestly believe Montero deserves to be here more than Tracey? Not saying I don't agree with you, cause I do believe the sox want to have Tracey have some more seasoning in AAA, but to have an adventure guy, who serves up meatballs rather than a guy who has major league ready stuff (maybe not with control just yet) and who has a future here is going to get the nod? I need to take a s*** cause my stomach just felt iffy...

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 12:20 AM) Why are you putting a rookie with s*** control in a situation like that? Then completely demoralizing the guy after he fails to do his dirty work. That's bulls*** or as many like to say, that's bush. Funny how Tracey wasn't commenting after the game while packing his f***ing bags. Ozzie is completely out of control here. Excatly what I said. Completely agree.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 12:13 AM) I said it before and I'll say it again. IMO Ozzie Guillen is similar to Dusty Baker when it comes to handling young players. Whoa, Whoa, Whoa.. That's a whole different discussion all-together. I never like anyone putting Ozzie and Dusty's name in the same sentence. Ozzie is very good with young players. He gives them every chance (eigher in pressure situations or making the team) to succeed. Ask Jenks and Logan this year. Dusty would never do that in a million years. He is against that philosophy. If I had to compare Ozzie to someone as far as getting a specific job done on the field (like retaliating, or a fundamental execution) it wouldn't be Baker.

It was just stupid on ozzie's part. Why the hell who you sent a rookie pitcher who has incredible stuff, but little (or NO) control to be asked to retaliate against an opposing player, or basically try and bean a player if you know that pitcher can't even throw a strike consistantly to begin with? Tracey should have just pitched like he usually does and he would have done the same thing with Cleveland (hit a batter by accident) not "try" and hit a batter cause he probably couldn't hit him if he tried.

QUOTE(shaneomacfan @ Jun 14, 2006 -> 11:59 PM) Tribune Link This story seems to indicate just that. I'm a little disappointed, if true... That is the most f***ed up thing I've read since yesterday. I just pray that Tracey isn't mentally f***ed up because of this since that what usually happens to one of our spects if he gets sent down.

Am I hearing that Tracey might get sent down...? QUOTE(mr_genius @ Jun 14, 2006 -> 11:57 PM) i didn't see the game Only saw it at the top of the 8th thru.

Started baseball real late (age 12) played every position expect pitcher, catcher when I played. I ran track so I was one of the fastest kids around South Chicago for a long time. I still rub it in some people's faces cause when I was in high school when I did impress a couple scouts when we played Carmel (said I could be a potential 4 tool gem [not 5 tool cause of my weak arm] with "developing power".. ) I could run, play good D, excellent batting eye [where I got the most recoqnition], but I had a below average arm and was just an "ok" hitter (hit .324[not too good when your in H.S. and it was my best season average wise] 2HR [both inside-The-Park] 23 RBI's 18W 12K [had a 15W 22K my Junior year]) last time I checked my stats for my H.S. If I would had continued playing, (2nd base probably would had been my position cause of my weak arm) I probably would had been drafted really late (or singed as a non draftee in all likelihood) and would have sucked in A ball.. (would of gotten man-handled but put up a decent W/K ratio..) I will probably play during the summer and bat against the 6'4 "stud" Slavko, a.k.a SoxFan1, and see what he does against me (he should be intimidating since I'm only 5'7-5'8) I will give him his respect since I heard he's got a good curveball.. (12-6 break on that filthy s***) but I will crush his 79 mph fastball out of the park. But now... I have gained 30 lbs since H.S. so I'm not skinny anymore, but I'm not that strong eigher.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 14, 2006 -> 08:37 PM) As for LF, I think that spot might actually be for Sweeney next year. I don't think Sweeney would struggle as much as Anderson has because Ryan has done a better job of controlling the strikezone in his time in the minors. Plus, it's obvious that just about everyone in the organization loves him; I still remember Ozzie raving about him after the Spring Training he had a year or two ago. Mmmmm nah. Right field has Sweeney's name written all over it when JD's contract runs out and for the future. (or if the sox choose another alternate) He has too good of a throwing arm to be in LF. Sweeney will adjust better than Anderson and Fields cause Sweeney's swing is by far, the best/smoothest. (Rafeal Palmeiro like) before the roids.. Fields will hit better than Crede in the majors IMO there's no denying that. (anyone who thinks Crede can keep up his average now, which has been dropping by the way, is not too good to bank on) But he will NEVER have the "D" Crede posesses though.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jun 14, 2006 -> 10:03 PM) Cough...Garland....ahem. Cough. Honestly.. what would you expect from a California boy..? (no offense Jason.. )

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 14, 2006 -> 08:43 PM) You stand up for your guy based on principle. Let the team pick you up, after you pick up your teammate. I agree. That's baseball. They've been doing it for years. That's how you play the game just like Crede hussled into 2nd and slid spikes up. (only saw the game in the top of the 8th through) He's playing the game like he's supposed to. I blame the umps for issuing warnings too early. (or tossing guys without issing warnings) This has been going on for a couple years now.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 14, 2006 -> 01:24 AM) So your comparing crashing into a wall making a catch in a key situtation in a baseball game to driving a motorcycle on a highway without a helmet, and only being alive after crashing due to pretty much blind luck?? You are WAAAAAAY off base..

He is some kinda player he got here. Wow.

QUOTE(Mplssoxfan @ Jun 14, 2006 -> 12:24 AM) There are two teams I will never cheer for. The Cubs and the Packers. So sue me. Having said that, though, a Cubs victory or three this weekend wouldn't bother me as much as usual. Nice post. I could never say.. G..C....!!! (hell, couldn't even type in the words to it) I'll just say if the Cubs won about three in a row this comming week... then good for them..

the Mavs just gift-wrapped that game to em. Great coaching Avery..

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 13, 2006 -> 12:42 AM) My cousin is 22 and has about the same amount of hair as Albert the same for a friend of mine who's 20. Some people lose thier hair at a very young age. I got a co-worker who is 26, and looks like he could be in his 40's with his hair look so this is true. Ha! join the club.. Look at my post history (and to let you know I was J.Reedfan8 back in the day) My top 2 favorite non-sox players: Jeremy Reed Rocco Baldelli Respect my autoritEY.. :finger

Man.. just like Jay Williams all over again... Potential career threatening, stupid decision. Poor Ben, prayers go out to ya, and I'm sure he'll thank the lord he's alive even though he'll be having a different looking face on him..

QUOTE(Capn12 @ Jun 12, 2006 -> 12:18 AM) In case you missed it, heres more great info to read: Garland 19 HR allowed in 77 IP Garcia 15 HR allowed in 80.2 IP Its safe to say, if Garland doesnt get his head out of his ass, hes got a chance to set some nice records!! That really makes Garland look bad cause he's the sinkerball pitcher and Freddy is more of the flyball type.

I was gonna bump this... but I decided to give Brian at least another game with a hit (possibly 2 games) to get the official hot streak thread going for him..

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jun 11, 2006 -> 11:33 PM) The dumbest thing I did tonight was not wear a sweatshirt or jeans to the game but I stayed. Was that you out there in the stands with your friends with your shirt off with the "I" in "White Sox!" ?!

This is comming from the game thread.. QUOTE(THE WOOD @ Jun 11, 2006 -> 4:52 PM) I have two tickets for the game in section 350. I am not feeling well and think it best if I just stay home. If anyone is interested in the tickets please send me a PM as soon as possible. Lord, I bet The Wood would like to have felt better for this one. Talk about bad luck (if he didn't go..)