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QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 16, 2010 -> 03:03 AM) Glad to see you're sticking with it, TRU. Seriously. Big ups to ya Carl. I stopped again (Insanity) 2 days in.. The same dedication has worn off since I'm not a fat slob like I was before. (I still weigh a pretty good weight, though I've gained about 5-8 lbs since I stopped) Really don't know how I can re-motivate myself again, but I'll try next week.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 16, 2010 -> 12:27 AM) I think almost everyone pegged the game 1 loss as the official end of the season. I haven't even bothered to follow along w/ these past 2 games. Ditto. In my eyes the season ended on the first game. I only looked at the score in the 5th inning in game 2 to see if we could at least win that one and have a chance to take 2/3 and give us a microscopic hope, but we couldn't even pull that off.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 15, 2010 -> 10:59 PM) I think the Twins match up better to the Rays. Yankees, Twins are toast. Agreed. The Twins and their fans should be jumping around like little kids. There's a decent chance they are gonna play Tampa Bay (AL East still up for grabs) and can actually get out of the first round even if/when the Yankees beat their ass in the ALCS.

QUOTE (Butter Parque @ Sep 15, 2010 -> 08:52 PM) People forget Jim Thome hit .245 and .249 for us his last 2 years. Don't people remember him striking out in huge situations on most occasions at the tail end of his stay here. The guy was great for awhile but he was taking up space at the end. Yikes. BTW, looking at your post, you look at (and take) batting average waaaay too seriously.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 15, 2010 -> 11:26 PM) BTW wasn't Morel offered as part of compensation for Manny at one time? No. That was Gilmore. (prospect in the org)

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 15, 2010 -> 10:25 PM) What team has really successfully re built in 4 or 5 years in the past 15 years? I agree. It's not like this team is old anyways, just the bench. Most of the guys will still be in their prime (Rios, Peavy, Alexei will be 30 next year, Jackson and Floyd 28, Danks 26, Beckham, 24 till September) etc..

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 15, 2010 -> 09:38 PM) Have I said how much I hate Ozzie lately? http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/...s-can-wait.html I honestly hope JR grows some balls for once and steps in. I don't think Ozzie will listen to Kenny. That is ridiculous. Whats he trying to prove? Pretty much everyone mins the WC teams will clinch so he doesn't have the "pride" excuse anymore. What he wants his managing record to look good this year? It's really pathetic.

I would still like to see us play the kids for the rest of the season. f*** the pride crap Ozzie. Season is pretty much over, though I'm sure he will still play the vets since were not "mathematically eliminated."

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 15, 2010 -> 04:17 PM) So you vote keep Ozzie? Rumors: Kenny is going through a divorce, Kenny will move on to VP (like Paxson with the Bulls), Hahn becomes the GM, Ozzie stays. Hmmm... looks like his wife finally caught him huh? And Ozzie seriously needs to change some of his ways if he wants to be considered a top tier manager. Playing NL style ball to the extreme like he does only has its limits. I always wanted Ozzie gone way before Kenny. Unless it's Kenny doing it himself (not being forced to), I would not be happy about this.

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Sep 15, 2010 -> 03:42 PM) Chris Young will drive you into tantrums if Pierre upsets you. I usually agree with you on many subjects (minus the Ben Gordon love), but that is just so wrong.

Rios.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Sep 15, 2010 -> 01:39 PM) So how is Cano more valuable than Konerko?? Without Konerko we're crap, without Cano the Yankees are still in the playoffs most likely. Without Miguel Cabrera, the Tigers are fighting with the Pirates for the top pick in next year's draft.

QUOTE (daggins @ Sep 15, 2010 -> 12:39 AM) Right now Viciedo has contact and power but no patience or defensive position. He has a long way to go before he is a productive, every day MLB player. Never thought a 21 year old kid would get this much hate.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Sep 14, 2010 -> 11:35 PM) Would you do Danks and Quentin to the Rockies for Gonzalez? Then Sign Cliff Lee to slide in. World Series. J4L might literally pull off his penis from stroking it so much if the Sox got CarGo.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 14, 2010 -> 11:29 PM) What you say may be right, but it doesn't matter. Jerry does cry about money and won't spend with thei biggest of the boys. We are going to have a mighty expensive rotation. It's time for those guys to step up and dominate. Danks, Floyd, Peavy, Jackson and Mark ... on paper, WOW! In reality, we've seen them all be very good; all suck. Because of their potential to be the best fivesome in the league, it'd be best to keep them, keep Putz, Thornton, Sergio and Sale, let Bobby walk and tinker with the lineup again. :o :o I'll add.... :o :o Greg I must say... that was an outstanding post.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 14, 2010 -> 11:20 PM) It gets expensive when you have to get it outside the organization. Plus Freddy and Peavy are big ? for next season. I would think Freddy is gone, unless the sox plan on trading one of the other guys. (Peavy-Buehrle-Danks-Floyd-Jackson) But I would like to see the sox sign a veteran FA pitcher next season (or a MLC to one) in case Peavy has problems again, so we won't have the same problem as we did this year running out guys like Harrell, Torres, Pena as a starter, etc.. etc..

QUOTE (Real @ Sep 14, 2010 -> 11:07 PM) Does $$$ make enough sense for you? Because the Sox will not have a lot of it next year. You basically can't bring Konerko back unless you trim significant salary elsewhere. Lots of empty seats for the rest of this season, and definitely for next year. I would hope our FO values pitching much more than a hitter. If a 34 year old Konerko wants 3+ years for 12+ mil... thanks for the memories Pauly, do whats best for your family. IMO, I think Buehrle leaving would be much worse for a PR hit (though I could be wrong) than Konerko and if not.. thats the FO's fault for making such poor choices for signings/trades/extensions to have this mess. I hope the FO finds a way to extend Danks (who we still have what 2 years of arb with?), Jackson for a couple more years. Thats how we SHOULD be building this team pitching/bullpen should be priority #1. QUOTE (Real @ Sep 14, 2010 -> 11:14 PM) There's your dilemma, Jackson is gonna be hard to move due to that contract, he might not be tradeable til the trade deadline. I disagree. One year left on his deal, not to mention an arm like his, he won't be hard to move at all if the sox go that route.

QUOTE (daggins @ Sep 14, 2010 -> 09:59 PM) Trust me, you don't want the Sox to win 60 games next year. It's sad to think some of us would prefer we got that route though. Twins are not going to go anywhere, and they will have a healthy Morneau back and a healthy Nathan. (remember he's having surgery on him elbow, not his shoulder) Seems to work with Minnesota because they draft and develop well. Guys like Morel though is a typical Twins-like prospect and I still like Flowers. I'm more interested to see these guys (Morel, Viciedo, Flowers) play out the rest of this season like I said in the game if/when the Twins puts the finishing touches on this series not to mention a guy like Infante in the pen. Hell play Brent Lillibridge too. Just get Juan Pierre out of my sight.

I'd still rather at all cost keep the 25 year old lefty in Danks. Buehrle won't leave, but I'd rather move him than Danks. Thats how much I like Danks. Also I hope if/when the Twins finish us off in this series, I hope Ozzie plays the kids the rest of the way, instead of the whole "pride" crap.

QUOTE (scenario @ Sep 14, 2010 -> 10:47 PM) On the other hand, KW Jr. is 4-8 with 2 doubles so far in the series. So, the decision to put him at leadoff may seem curious, but it's hard to argue with the results. Not to mention he was leading off when Short went down with injury. He hit pretty well during his absence around late August/September and like you said, during the playoffs. I'm sure the manager did not want to fix what wasn't broke.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Sep 14, 2010 -> 09:34 PM) Depends on what you mean by large and small. If by large you mean a new catcher, DH, 3b, Rf, bullpen arm and closer, then I'll vote large changes. Pretty much sums up my feelings as well.

Hopefully for KW and our sake, he can extend Jackson for a couple more years at least (at a decent salary). Still young in his own right. Probably the only way alot of us here can actually stomach the deal if Jackson is locked up for more than one season next year. Good luck doing that with Boras, Kenny.

Hell of a season boys. Sox can still take 2/3, but all in all, the fat lady is pretty much about to step on the stage to sing. KW, you got alot of work to do this off-season.

Manny.

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Sep 14, 2010 -> 02:16 PM) Sanders is way too overrated and too injury prone to be counted on. He's more injury prone than Tracy McGrady. He makes Mike Brown look like Brett Favre and his games streak. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 14, 2010 -> 12:43 PM) Something interesting I came accross for the stat heads of Soxtalk talk... Lovie Smith was right to go for it on the 4th down play from the 1 yard line... http://www.advancednflstats.com/2010/09/lovies-blunders.html Me and nite had no problem with the call, especially given Lovie was given the "no balls title" long ago, but Stafford out didn't help his decision at all. Next time though.. you do it with Chester Taylor at the goal line (especially in 3rd down) who is one of the best short yardage backs in the league. Just terrible evaluating, almost as bad as playing man to man on Calvin Johnson late in the game.