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Rios.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 25, 2010 -> 09:21 PM) Another absolutely dominating start for Hudson. He's easily one of the best young pitchers in baseball in the NL now. Next time you want to make a trade KW...please don't! Said it once before, he is the one guy I know were going to regret giving up, and I don't usually fall in love with prospects too often. (might "like" some, but "love" is another story )

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 25, 2010 -> 04:57 PM) Couldn't agree more, especially if the plantar fas flares up again. Not to mention his contract demands.

Konerko.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 24, 2010 -> 06:50 PM) It's an overall good article discussing Morel, and I do think he is going to be the starter at 3B next season, as he doesn't have a ton of trade value considering he isn't an elite prospect Welcome to the dark side. Yo fathom, add wite to the club bro.

I want them to lose... but then again I want them to win so it can shut other posters up who keep bringing up their record in the postseason when they've won 6 division titles in the last decade.

A.J.

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Sep 24, 2010 -> 02:43 PM) Harris is more of a scoring combo guard. The plan in NJ is to matchup Melo and Lopez, possibly bring in a guard next year, and build the rest with role players. Their plan is good.... but I highly doubt Melo wants to be in a losing environment and not make the playoffs. The Nets would REALLY have to sell him on it even if their plan is legit. He is more likely one and done. QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Sep 24, 2010 -> 02:44 PM) BTW, it's been reported Joakim was offered 5 years/57 million a few weeks ago, and was none too happy about it. Apparently, he's looking for max money, or at least what Bynum got. The reported figure when the story first drop was higher for the initial offer. Sorry Joakim, your going to have to do this one more year (and healthy at that) for this organization (hopefully) to commit that kind of money. I'm sure they've learned from the Deng situation, and Luol was at least more proven from a couple productive years even though he was hurt in one of them.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 24, 2010 -> 01:13 PM) 4 way trade being discussed that would send Anthony to New Jersey, contingent on Anthony signing an extension which apparently he isnt too interested in. I wouldn't be either going to a team that won 12 games last year. Then your losing Devin Harris? I mean whats the point? Not a good way to sell Melo to re-sign with you.

QUOTE (TheBigHurt @ Sep 23, 2010 -> 09:22 PM) Do YOU ever STOP reading newspapers and actually form a coherent thought BY YOURSELF??? This is why someone is telling you that you need a course in logic. Seriously, two people agree with you? That's your argument??? I'm sorry, but your lack of any sort of logic LITERALLY makes you sound like a 9 year-old. BACK UP YOUR OWN OPINION!!! Stop throwing out empty statements because other people say things. I haven't even heard ONE thing from you about WHY you like Ozzie. I haven't heard ONE valid point to support ANYTHING you've ever said on this subject or any other. I'm sorry to be calling you out like this, but I'm going to be frank; your opinion is 100% worthless at this point because you spit in the face of facts and shoot down ideas simply because you like Ozzie... and don't even have a legitimate reason for it or for ANYTHING you say. I'm starting to think you're an android. You appear to have NO thought process whatsoever. And if you are going to complain that I'm being mean and insulting, then prove me wrong and MAKE A VALID POINT OF SOME KIND to back up SOMETHING you say. PLEASE. Jesus CHRIST... I think you should tell him how you really feel....

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 23, 2010 -> 04:28 PM) Ozzie was our best manager in Sox history ... period. That is debatable. But It's not worth arguing.

QUOTE (T R U @ Sep 23, 2010 -> 03:02 PM) I HATE that belt soo much.. it was so stupid to do that in the first place and even dumber to not have changed it to a more traditional looking belt by now.. But Carl... You'd be stuntin!

Patriots.

QUOTE (Cali @ Sep 22, 2010 -> 11:54 PM) Is it just a down year for Derek or the start of the twilight of his career? Well... He's set to get married. That in itself isn't Jeter's forte.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 22, 2010 -> 10:42 PM) Sadly that proves Gregs point more than anything. Guys fall. It happens. You just gave two good examples. Very rarely though do good signable prospect guys fall. It's usually guys who either want over slot money or guys represented by Boras.

That Jeremy Morin kid looks like a heck of a young player. Made a sweet pass to Toews to set him up for a goal. Q praised him (and Leddy) after the game as well.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 22, 2010 -> 09:15 PM) I just don't see why a couple draft slots matter. It matters cause that at least gives the sox flexibility to sign a type A free agent next year without giving up their first round draft pick. I don't even care at the moment which prospect they take when the time comes, but it would definitely help just in case they can't re-sign Konerko (or if you need to trade guys to have less money to sign guys) if you want to get an Adam Dunn for example and have Rizzo and the Nats pick compensation picks instead of your first round pick in a very weak farm system as it is. There is a reason why the sox couldn't particularly get a bat this year cause of the lack of prospects, and the good one(s) they had, they traded for another SP and had no other prospects really (you can't trade Sale yet, and KW balked on Viciedo) to offer teams. Don't get it twisted Greg (as I know you like to do) I'm not rooting for this team to lose, but know there is at least a bright side to this season if they do. Shame really, cause the A's would have been up to the 17th pick and Detroit won again today.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Sep 22, 2010 -> 04:18 PM) Tank drives in first Sox run today. He isn't ready OBP wise, but hitting for average, I don't see how he isn't ready. and Flowers finish off his swing reminds me of Matt Holliday. It's a shame, as of the moment, thats where the comparison ends.

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Sep 22, 2010 -> 03:00 PM) really, the offense around him is THAT bad which lead to him having the 3rd worst ast/usg rate in the league? Who can you consider an all-star on his team? He doesn't have Durant, he doesn't have the Big Three. He doesn't have Amar'e and he didn't have Boozer till now like the other PGs do. He doesn't have Duncan, or Anthony, or Howard. He is by himself. Now.. if he digresses THIS season (since he has better talent), but you have a legitimate argument, but until then, your argument is flawed.

QUOTE (klaus kinski @ Sep 22, 2010 -> 03:58 PM) He'll get Pujols when he's 39 Gotta keep up with the (get em' past their prime) rate.

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Sep 22, 2010 -> 02:49 PM) btw, stats can also prove my claim that Rose is not a great playmaker, not even a good one. of all the point guards last season, Rose had the 2nd highest usage rate, behind Arenas, but ranked 56 out of 67 point guards in Assist rate, so can you really justify him being a great playmaker? so guys, please get of my grills on this subject. thanks B) I'm one of the few who agrees with you, but I'm also in their camp when I say.. watch the games, at least more closely. Deng is one of the worst players to get assist with with his efficiency and tendency to pass up shots and drive to the hole, only to not finish. (not strong or athletic enough, which is why I'm interested to see what Thibs does with him if he runs plays Deng is strong at like Scott Skiles did in the early years) It seems everytime Rose passed the ball to an open man, he'd miss the shot. (or try to do too much with the ball, I.E. Deng, B. Miller, Salmons and his jab step, etc..) He doesn't have Ben Gordon anymore (and I'm not a big BG fan like nitetrain) so there goes the best shooter he's played with last year. When Kirk Hinrich is your only legitimate shooter on the floor more often than not (but has a PG first mentality which means he'd more often than not pass up the shot unless he is wide open, though he isn't THAT great of a shooter) then your screwed on assist efficiency. And please don't get me started on the rebounding rate.

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Sep 22, 2010 -> 03:28 PM) I'd trade Noah for Melo, if for nothing else, the contracts. Noah turned down 12 mil a year already. That is one of the main reasons why I'm still in favor of netting Melo for him (60-40). If reports are true that the Bulls offered 12 million to him (and I still think that is crazy to begin with) than you have to deal him, especially for a guy who has plantar fasciitis, which Noah has indicated is still not completely 100% yet. That being said, it would have been better if Melo would have had these trade demands earlier in the season where the Bulls could have netted a serviceable center in the summer. I still think you give Rose a shooter like Rudy, have your Rose-Fernandez-Deng-Boozer-Noah lineup with one of the best benches in the league (Brewer, Korver, Gibson, Watson, K. Thomas, Bogans, Asik, Johnson or the great Salabrine) and watch him go nuts.

Sox could be 2.5 GB of the 15th pick tonight.

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Sep 22, 2010 -> 10:13 AM) personally, i am a little hesitant to trade for Carmelo after seeing how poorly Rose played with a dominant scorer on the team like Durant. Rose needs to take his shots to be effective and is not a great playmaker, and does not have the 3 point shooting to compliment Carmelo. Now, maybe the poor performance was a fluke or it had something to do with the FIBA style, but I am not sure if pairing Rose with Carmelo would be a better fit than having Rose and Noah. So you want Rose to turn into a shooting guard? Cause at this point that is the route he is going. I take FIBA games with a huge grain of salt, but if you want to go that route, he had the most assist out of everyone in the tournament. (per 48 and a game) He has already shown better defense and court awareness than last year alone from evaluating him and oh yea.. he is still just 21 years old. Alot of times, FIBA basketball doesn't suit certain players. Rondo got cut from the team (ya.. Rondo.. not buying you "leaving") cause he doesn't fit that style of play. Don't know if you remember, but D-Will and Paul both struggled immensely in their first go at the FIBA tournament. When you have guys like Jasekevicus and Langdon who were Euro stars, but struggled in the NBA game, you always have to remember "ya.. there are FIBA games." Ball is much different, different rules, different three point line, etc.. etc.. Do I think Rose will ever see the floor like CP3, Nash, Rondo? Probably not, though he's shown flashes (remember a couple great passes to Deng, but Deng couldn't finish since he isn't strong inside) but surround him with some shooters, he can most certainly turn into D-Will (who doesn't have the greatest vision either well... not like those three or Billups) Obviously Westbrook has developed a touch faster. He has had a superstar to play with from day one, a competent coach, improved his shooting, etc. Rose though has the higher potential, already has improved his shooting, and has averaged 20/6 in his second full NBA season not to mention has done this pretty much by himself (can't say the same for Rondo, Westbrook etc..). He's got Boozer, Korver and needs one more shooter, and a defensive guy in Brewer paired with him in the backcourt. (and I like Thibs going back on running plays for Deng 2006-07 version) He'll be fine. Now give him a guy like Carmelo.. he will defer more (probably could net 10 assist) and not have all the pressure to be "the man." I was 90/10 on getting Melo for Noah 2 weeks ago. Now re-evaluating it.. I'm more like 60/40. Just something about Melo who "could not" be that great of a fit. (unlike a guy like LeBron who is more of a distributor, plays better D, and can score) I'd be shocked if he doesn't average 18-25(depending on Melo)/3-5/8-10 with a steal and a half and better shooting % from the three.

Rios.