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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 20, 2010 -> 08:20 PM) Do you really think that Gio Gonzalez would have an ERA below 4 (let alone the 3.47 he's at) pitching half of his games for the White Sox? Surprise surprise, he's been phenomenal at home (2.70 with a completely unsustainable .229 BABIP) and a bit more human on the road (4.22 ERA, a somewhat unlucky but closer to reality .322 BABIP, and 1.44 WHIP). I would say his road splits are closer to his natural talent level than his overall numbers indicate because he's pitching in a great pitching environment for half of his games. He had a 3.47 ERA, 1.28 WHIP (or something around those lines) before that 2 IP 7 ER game his last start versus Kansas City on the road. I would think that would attain more from pitching 30+ more IP this year than he ever has in his life (hell he has more K per 9 IP on the road than he does at home). So no.. he's legit.

Shut him down. He's pitched about 190 innings anyway. I honestly would shut down Danks and Buehrle too, but I know we won't do that. But hey.. we get to see more Lucas Harrell and Carlos Torres! Might have to keep an eye out of that 15th race more closely.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 20, 2010 -> 05:38 PM) What about Viciedo in RF for 2011? His arm would fit there and he hopefully would be a an improvement over Quentin. I've wanted him there for 2-3 years now since he was in B-Ham. The arm, average speed, supposedly from reports from Cubano took solid enough routes out there in Cuba (though didn't play too often there) and is pretty athletic. That is probably not going to happen however.

Whoa.. wait.. he got injured? I guess thats one way to sort of regret not watching games anymore.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Sep 20, 2010 -> 05:58 PM) I have a question for those in college: when are you too old for freshman girls? I almost feel bad.....almost. Dude.. as far as I'm concerned, as soon as they turn 18.. it's fair game. So ya.. if a hot high school senior female, who is 18, came up to me and wanted to do the deed, I wouldn't hesitate. Then again.. I'm going on 24 so it might not look as bad, though one of my girls went out with a guy who was 32 back when we were in high school and she was 18, so I've seen my share of "age ain't nothing but a number" cases.

C'mon Saints. Don't make regret not picking Philly in the survivor pool.

Alexei.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 20, 2010 -> 10:42 AM) That was a 93 mph changeup. I love him. Has been my favorite young pitcher since he came up. He is my "CarGo" (J4L.. ) as far as pitchers.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 20, 2010 -> 02:54 AM) I wouldn't say have to finish at or below .500. Going 4-9 is certainly a possibility that puts the Sox are 83-79, and all 3 of Oakland, Florida, and New York can get relatively hot and finish above the Sox in the standings. I figure they'll probably end up with the 16th overall pick, which is a pretty terrible spot to be in. That is exactly the spot I was picking them to land as well looking at everything, which is scary and unfortunate to think about. Looking at the rest of our schedule comparing with the others.... Sox: 3 @ OAK, 3 @ LAA, 4 vs. BOS, 3 vs CLE (who owns us) Cardinals: 1 @ FLA (make-up game), 3 @ PIT, 3 @ CHC, 3 vs PIT, 4 vs COL Tigers: 3 vs KC, 3 vs MIN, 4 @ CLE, 3 @ BAL Blue Jays: 3 vs SEA, 3 vs BAL, 3 vs NYY, 4 @ MIN A's: 3 vs CHW, 4 vs TEX, 3 @ LAA, 3 @ SEA **Mets: 2 @ FLA, 3 @ PHI, 4 vs MIL, 3 vs WSH **Marlins: 1 vs STL (make-up game), 2 vs NYM, 4 @ MIL, 3 @ ATL, 3 vs PIT **Dodgers: 3 vs SD, 3 @ ARI, 3 @ COL, 3 vs ARI **Angels: 3 vs TEX, 3 vs CHW, 3 vs OAK, 4 @ TEX **added teams since they are so close together. On paper, some of those teams are locks to finish strong or likely stay around where they are at. I'll throw out a possible outcome on what could happen on likely finishes in games overall. (others can form their opinion as well) And mind you this is pretty much worst case, everyone else plays .500 or better cept us. Sox: 5-8 (I'll add one win from what wite said) 84-78 Cards: 8-6 (85-77) Tigers: 8-5 (83-79) Blue Jays: 7-6 (82-80) A's: 7-6 (82-80) Mets: 6-6 (80-82) Marlins: 7-7 (80-82) Dodgers: 7-5 (80-82) Angels: 7-6 (80-82) Which puts us at 18th. In other words... I hope the Blue Jays, Tigers, A's, and Cards play very well the last stretch (I could see the Cards, Tigers and Blue Jays finishing strong.. the A's are the wild card.. if they don't finish well, that puts us at 16th).. or we struggle a bit.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Sep 20, 2010 -> 12:01 AM) Strip clubs That was mine from age 21-22. It was sad that most of the strippers/manager(s)/etc. know your name and such.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 19, 2010 -> 10:33 PM) I kind of wonder how many Dodger fans said this last year...... "Jim Thome just sucks. He needs to retire. Such a bum." Similar situations, except Manny has been better than Thome was. There is more to the Manny pessimism than Thome obviously. Both did get the same ordeal like you said.. one of them however might actually be on the downhill without PEDs. I don't believe it personally however, but it is what it is.

I did this last season to give us alittle optimism on a looming season and since our drafting philosophy is miles better the last 2-3 years than before with Laumann, I figured I shed some light here. Pittsburgh: 51-98 (Obviously they will probably win the Rendon sweepstakes, Pedro Alvarez more than likely their future 1B.. what a future) Seattle: 57-92 Arizona: 59-91 Baltimore: 59-90 Kansas City: 61-87 Washington: 62-87 Cleveland: 62-87 Cubs: 68-81 Milwaukee: 69-79 Houston: 72-77 Top 10 picks currently Los Angeles (N): 73-77 (1/2 GB for top 10) Los Angeles (A): 73-76 (1 GB for top 10) Florida: 73-75 (1.5 GB for top 10) New York (N): 74-76 (1.5 GB for top 10) Oakland: 74-74 (3.5 GB for top 10) Top 15 picks currently Toronto: 75-74 (1/2 GB for top 15, 3 GB for top 10) Detroit: 75-74 (1/2 GB for top 15, 3 GB for top 10) St. Louis: 77-71 (3 GB for top 15, 5.5 GB for top 10) White Sox: 79-70 (4.5 GB for top 15, 7 GB for top 10) Colorado: 82-67 (7.5 GB for top 15, 10 GB for top 10) Top 20 picks currently San Diego: 83-66 (1 GB for top 20, 8 GB for top 15) Boston: 83-66 (1 GB for top 20, 8 GB for top 15) Texas: 83-65 (1.5 GB for top 20, 8.5 GB for top 15) I won't list the other teams since we are 5+ games ahead. Sox are currently in 19th place. We have 13 games left in the season. As you can see, picks 11 to 17 is literally a close cluster-f***. Obviously the sox probably will not pick in the top 10 (just put it there for perspective) but we are currently 1.5 GB of the Cardinals for 18th and from then on, sox could go anywhere from 17 to 11 in a matter of days... of losing. (and the others winning) That's how tight it is this year. Top 15 sounds more realistic with us, and I would not mind that at all. And yes I'm sure there are a couple posters who don't believe in tanking/draft position/etc.. so please no hijacking.

f*** it.. ima create a thread on our placement pick right now. I did it last year....

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Sep 19, 2010 -> 10:31 PM) Remember the last time we had pick #18? Two words and a third for good measure. Josh Fields. b****es. Ya, but I like the latest drafting we've had. Jared Mitchell has alot of promise and he was a late first. I'm not gonna count Sale or Beckham who were of course higher.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 19, 2010 -> 10:28 PM) How far away are we from 15? We have 79 wins. The 15th pick team is a tie with the Mets and Oakland. We are 5 games back. Tigers just leaped frog into a tie with Toronto for 16th with their 75th win.

QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Sep 19, 2010 -> 10:26 PM) Kenny needed another baseball card to add to the collection. I mean...it's like having a really hot girl way after her prime. She isn't worth damn any more, but at least you can say you had her. Kenny has been a terrible GM for a few years now. Believe me.. theres alot of girls like that for me who were incredible in high school back in the day... a few babies/beer guts later... yikes.. but I still wanna say I "tapped that."

Well guys.... the race for the 18th pick in the draft is officially on!! (sox currently are 19th and picks 15-18 is pretty close)

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 19, 2010 -> 10:23 PM) Greg is jumping for joy right now "THE BUM! THE BUM!!!" You and the other posters should really take off that palooza sig.

Well... Manny reminds me of Pods with all the K's looking recently.

I hope Manny walks, and he gives Morel a chance to win the game.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 19, 2010 -> 10:18 PM) No good reason to be honest. It's a gut feeling and one I feel pretty strongly about for some reason. Take some pepto bismol or something then.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 19, 2010 -> 10:17 PM) Where's Teahen going? He is either a super utility player (sadly I know) or he goes to 1B/DH's before that happens. I do hope we trade him. If we have to pay some of his salary so be it. He still has a decent average, maybe we can sell a team on that.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 19, 2010 -> 10:15 PM) Teahen will be starting at third. He makes 5 million. Not a chance.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 19, 2010 -> 10:13 PM) Morel's going to be starting at 3b for the Sox next year. He has more value to the Sox than he does other teams, as it's not like he's a huge prospect. Agreed.

Morel is due up after A.J. right? If there is one guy I would love to see end the game, it's him (depending what Konerko, A.J, etc.. do) Liked the pick, though I thought we reached a touch when he was drafted, but he is a typical Twins-like prospect.