SoxAce

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 01:39 AM) Fernando Martinez in AAA at 25 put up a .288/.361/.393 line while averaging 1 K per every 3.71 PA. Brian Anderson at AAA at the age of 23 put up a .295/.360/.469 line while averaging 1 K per every 4.36 PA. Brian hit for better average, got on at about the exact same rate, showed a lot more power, and did so while making a lot more contract. Granted, Brian's K rate was bad, but it wasn't nearly as bad as Perez's K rate. Don't even think about comparing Jennings, Crawford, or Upton to trash like Fernando Perez because it's not like Perez is just a few steps away from being that kind of player. Perez isn't even a prospect in my book. You just can't K like that and hit for such s***ty power at such an old age and still be considered a prospect. Perez is still living off his BA slurping. BA has done that before where they stupidly fall in love with a s***ty player that never makes it. Perez is one of those guys. OT: Ok, I'm going to say this because I HATE (and you know who you are) when posters always do this. If someone replies to something and says one player in one sentence and another player in another sentence without putting those players in the same sentence that does not mean they are comparing them. I'm tired of people always doing that and it makes them look like idiots, not to mention bringing the quality of the board down. Not trying to single you out KHP, but it's just ridiculous to always see that crap then the poster having to defend themselves for a stupid reason saying "did I compare them" like if he put the numbers (or similarities in the player) trying to make a point. Now, calm down, take a deep breath and grab a cookie/beer/whatever bro. It's not this serious to get this bent out of shape for a guy you obviously don't like. It was a suggestion by a poster to at least take a flyer on him and see what he can do. If he sucks, then hey, KW and company can say bye bye in ST. And I LOVE how you compared him to two of the better spects in baseball at the time in BA and F-Mart, not to mention Perez having a completely different style of hitting than both BA and F-Mart, not to mention more Fernando had only 170 abs in AAA. Same with Cook. Ya he rakes in AA.. so? In AAA, in limit abs (and he hasn't been givin a full chance) he hasn't done anything. Again.. outstanding and well thought-out comparison. Like I said I've never seen Perez in the college level, high school, or even the minors. Hell I saw BA in college and comming up and anyone can tell you how his swing was, he wasn't going to make it. I saw F-Mart in the futures game and a couple games when he played in AAA. Liked him a bit even with the lack of power, but he has a long swing and was terribly overhyped. s***, I woulda taken you more seriously if you compared him to Jerry freaking Owens than those two guys if you were really trying to bust your ass and make a point since they are more similar as players. If you hate him, fine as far as I see... you do, and that's fair, but like I said, don't be too blinded by the hate from the result. That's all I'm saying.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 12:05 AM) Why would veteran Major League pitchers throw the ball outside of the strikezone to a guy who can't hit the baseball when it's over the plate? That doesn't make any sense, and it's not like Perez some huge power that pitchers need to be wary of. If his contact rate is that poor then his BB rate will not hold up against Major League pitching. Your acting like he's been Brian Anderson comming up. In limited at bats he's posted a .261/.346/.420/.766 line. It's not like he's been terrible in his brief stint in the bigs. Hell just last year in Durham in the freaking IL, he put up a .288/.361/.393/.754 line. Obviously the Rays have taken it slow with him and he's been blocked doesn't help. It's one thing to actually see if the guy has sucked so far, but don't bash him, cause your hate for a guy is blinding. Getting him for cheap and taking a look at him is not the end of the world. Sure I'd prefer to say f*** it and get Desmond Jennings or as far as players Crawford or Upton, but that doesn't look as promising. Now with that said, I have not seen Perez in the minors or even in college/high school to really see him and if you have, that's different and this is all moot.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Oct 8, 2009 -> 11:25 PM) And yet these numbers are accepted by many for the very same reasons those in favor of bringing Podsednik back are not - because we have become accustomed to mediocrity or worse - and everyone seems to accept Getz as the answer at 2b. Getz, to me, is a perfect AL utility player. He hits decently against righties, he runs the bases extremely well, and he has a fairly solid glove in the infield. Meanwhile, Podsednik hit .320 against lefties and .297 against righties (with a very acceptable .780 OPS), and he seems to be defacto out of town. We are willing to accept that Getz "may" ultimately post numbers similar to Podsednik's 09' line, instead of contemplating bringing back a guy who just posted that line in reality. I am not Scott Podsednik's biggest fan by any means. And if we were able to replace him with a better player, I am all for that. What I am looking at is reality, including what our limited resources appear to be, and given that Getz almost demands to be a player we platoon, I'm not certain I wouldn't rather target 2b to replace Getz than to target an OF to replace Podsednik. I'm trying to get this as I know you loved Pods this year and I have as well for what he did. You do realize that this was his damn near career year right? You do realize that he probably will never duplicate the numbers he put up correct? You do realize that his SB % has gone down, not to mention his baseball I.Q. is shot do you? Hell this is the same for A.J. as well. If we had Joe Mauer waiting in the wings, I want A.J. gone this winter seeing as his trade value will never get any higher. I don't know if I (or the sox org.) want to trust Flowers to man it just yet. A.J. will probably never duplicate the numbers he just put up either. But he's probably our only and best option we got right now. I can't say that about Pods. Pods also said he wants to test the FA market as well wanting to see how much doe he can rack up seeing in his career he might not get this opportunity again. But I do agree that the Pods haters need to lay off especially for what he did this year..

QUOTE (son of a rude @ Oct 8, 2009 -> 11:13 PM) A move i could really see and would like would be for kenny to trade for fernando perez. http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/P/F...ndo-Perez.shtml The rays are packed with outfielders, so i don't see why they wouldnt trade him (unless they want him as a backup OF). He was injured all last year, so maybe we could net him without giving up too much. As you can see, he has been great at drawing walks and putting up a high OBP throughout the minors. He is extremely fast and has great range in the outfield. He steals bases and is a switch hitter. I have been wanting kenny to trade for him since last season. I would love if kenny could get him in a trade and give him a shot during spring training. That is an outstanding idea and very good props s.o.a.r. He's basically a Denard Span (and mind you I love me some Span) except better speed, but K's more.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Oct 8, 2009 -> 10:29 PM) Beckham has too much RBI potential to bat lead-off IMO. The lead-off hitter should be Getz unless we get someone who profiles better there. He and Wite are right though about Beckham being our best solution for the mean time though. Sure ideally you'd like to see him bat 2nd or 3rd, but if it's only for one season, it won't kill him to do so. Unless Getz really shows something in ST and possibly during the early/middle of the season, (especially from comming back from a hernia/back surgery) then you can make the change, but there's no doubt as of right now Beckham is our best leadoff solution. I do believe Getz will be fine though given his history. Let's just hope Ozzie has enough faith this time around instead of the ol "protect my rookies/young guys" debacle.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 8, 2009 -> 04:51 PM) Can you change my member title to "Electric Dream Machine"? Damn, I was hoping for a "Big Daddy Candy Cane" or somethin.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Oct 8, 2009 -> 10:21 PM) Dude, you change what your argument is based on whenever I successfully shoot down your old points. Then it becomes a new argument that you have. I see you haven't gotten the constant M.O. yet.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 8, 2009 -> 06:41 PM) If he's the 3rd best pitching prospect in baseball, Kenny needs to trade him ASAP and this is coming from the guy that was jizzing all over Huddy when I saw him this past spring. It would seem like his M.O. to do so. Huddy's value cannot be any higher.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Oct 8, 2009 -> 04:24 PM) I know this kind of complaining is old hat, but my god do i hate Chris Berman. His antics make everything he's in unwatchable if i have to hear him scream f***ing, "WHOOP!" everytime a player dodges a f***ing defender, i'm going to freak out. Said it nearly 2 years ago, been saying it since I came to this board. That was just some reasons (or basically just the tip of the iceberg) on why I hate him.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 8, 2009 -> 04:14 PM) I know why you like them! Lies!!

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 8, 2009 -> 04:04 PM) I'm crazy so I'm still sticking with the Rocks to win the series. Rockies are a personal favorite team of mine in the NL so I'm going for them as well. Don't think they'll win however but I'm rooting for them.

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Oct 8, 2009 -> 04:05 PM) Very unlikely. hater. Whateva, whateva.. I do what I want!

QUOTE (Tex @ Oct 8, 2009 -> 04:03 PM) silly conversions for certain This could be cause of a slow day, but it seems this thread is slowly dying... WOOOO!

Ramble, ramble, ramble, ramble, ramble, ramble, ramble.

Pods had a fluke year and AJ had a career year... I'd pick AJ though Beckham is really making it hard. What he did was just unreal for us. He's got to be the first sox prospect since Frank to look like a future superstar or even the first since Rowand to look like he'll be solid (I'm talking pos. players here). Carrasco and Thornton are definitely up there. AJ/Beckham/Carrasco/Thornton. You couldn't be wrong with either pick.

I still think there's something with Floyd's hip that is something we don't know.. And BTW, McPherson was going to be a superstar if injuries didn't f*** him over.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 7, 2009 -> 03:55 PM) For anyone else considering Backstreet Boys lyrics, please note that a banning might be possible. Good.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 7, 2009 -> 02:52 PM) Boondocks sig is a bit stale. Time to freshen it up. Damn right!... NOT. BTW, where's the Gordon "lols"? Retired?

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 7, 2009 -> 02:49 PM) Zooey Daschenal is cute. Another insightful post from the Sqwert-meister.

Remind me to put most of you in retirement homes soon.

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Oct 7, 2009 -> 01:38 PM) ZERO is what it deserved. Bah! Humbug.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 7, 2009 -> 01:31 PM) What are you getting at? X-tra credit.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 7, 2009 -> 01:29 PM) Using the word crappy too much Tex. Very insightful post as usual Sqwert.

QUOTE (Tex @ Oct 7, 2009 -> 12:43 PM) McDonalds is crappy fast food Notice that the ground is now shaking, cause the obese people are mobbing to your house?

La la la la la la Bamba!