Jordan4life_2007

Oh my goodnesss. I just watched the Drew Peterson movie on lifetime. I'll assume that some of the overall depiction was exxaggerated. But if this guy was even 75% of what this movie suggests, damn. This dude was/is f***ing ICE. Officially one of my new idols along with the great Peter Griffin.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 05:19 PM) Expand your horizon beyond "popular" sports based only around money. There are many better ones out there. You obviously, have no experince with wrestling at a high level. No thanks. I've learned over time to pick and choose my message board battles. I'm not going to devote 20+ posts in breaking down why wrestling sucks and is not a true sport, and why basketball requires 20 times more skill. That's just a Baltaesque way of driving up your post count.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 05:15 PM) I dare say it because it's true. The skill level in basketball does not match wrestling. The physical strength, power and agility combo as well as the strategy and quick thinking on the mental level it takes to wrestle at the collegiate and international level is far and above the corresponding level of basketball. I've worked both sports at those levels and rehabbed athletes at both. There really is no comparison in my opinion. You need to stick to sports injuries and steroids. That is just awful.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 04:59 PM) Lacrosse is a great sport. I knew nothing about it until this year. Any sport where you can legally beat the crap out of someone with a stick is a blast. Watching my 10 year old's team is a lot of fun and takes a heck of a lot more skill than basketball. By the way do you know who is considered the greastest Lacrosse player ever: Jim Brown. He has been quoted as saying that if there was pro Lacrosse when he came out of Syracuse, he would have played it not football. You my friend have picked the wrong for which to root. Wrestling and Lacrosse are two of the best. Wrestling is a joke of a sport and how dare you say it's better than basketball? That's almost as bad as weekly bowlers talking about how not everybody can bowl a 200 game. I know I can. And I don't even bowl.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 04:51 PM) More than something as silly as basketball. Sure. Wrestling is on par with Lacrosse. Just because you sweat a little doesn't make it a sport.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 04:44 PM) I hope you are only thinking the 4 major sports because nobody is better than Dan Gable as an indivdual athlete. He was 345-5 in college and international events. He also never lost in a high school match. Wrestling isn't a sport.

Yeah, DRtg is too suspect. I like it for teams. But not individual players.

I actually think Walter has an argument for greatest football player ever.

Knight, what are you complaining about? Westbrook has been killin' it this month.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 02:52 PM) joking right? Doubtful.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 02:48 PM) So I am still waiting to see anything saying that Hamilton is a bad defender. Is he Ben Gordon or Toni Kukoc? No. But if the NBA had an all-defensive fourth team, Hamilton still wouldn't be on it.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 02:35 PM) 3 quick ones. http://www.csnchicago.com/blog/bulls-talk/...?blockID=617160 http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/heatzone/20...fect-heat-more/ http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/12/10/sch...s-uniform-soon/ So basically, RIP drives people crazy because of his style of game. Nobody likes chasing guys around screens all day. I remember Rick Fox used to say how much he hated guarding Peja. Has nothing to do with Rip Hamilton being some kinda pest defensively. That's guys like Bruce Bowen and Shane Battier.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 02:30 PM) http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-12...ls-reader-q-a/3 Kobe Bryant also said that he hated to play against Reggie Miller. Not because he couldn't score on him whenever he felt like it. But because Reggie, like RIP, made a living running off screen after screen after screen. Not to mention Reggie was dirty as hell.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 02:27 PM) I know nothing about defensive win shares in basketball. You don't need any advanced statistic to know that Richard Hamilton was the "weak link" defensively on those Pistons teams. You can cover guys up with the right system/scheme. We've seen that plenty in just the last four years. It still doesn't mean x player can guard y player.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 02:25 PM) Thank you! That's actually what I was hoping someone would do in reply, so that I could learn something! GMAB, Balta. You didn't need him to post that to figure that out. You're not an idiot. You just like to debate forever and ever.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 02:20 PM) This thread is almost as much of a pissing contest as the NFL thread. Jeez. "I think so and so is better than so and so." "You're an idiot. So and so is (insert absolute here)." "NO, you're an idiot." Except nobody called or even implied that so and so is an idiot. At least that's not what I'm doing.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 02:19 PM) Keith Bogans also slowed Wade down last year. You're telling me Butler and Ray Allen couldn't as well? Butler? Do you really want him playing meaningful minutes in May? And Ray Allen certainly. didn't slow Wade down last year.

And the thing with Wade is that he's been so damn injury prone that you don't know which games he was hurt, or had just come back from an injury, etc. He was WAYYYY off his game in '07 and '08 before he came back in '09 and blitzed the league. Wade torched the Pistons in their heyday when he was healthy.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 01:51 PM) Just drinking the same stuff that made people think the Knicks would be better than the Bulls. Preseason opinions are what they are. Let's stay on the topic of baseball. Every five minutes you're talking about how "epically" bad the Cubs are going to be. And it's true. Now other than 25% of the roster remembering what it's like to play baseball at an above replacement level, what's the case for the Sox?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 01:53 PM) So, you're the one who said that Hamilton was definitely not a Wade Stopper. So far, the only stats presented in support of this argument suggest that his scoring has definitely dropped against the Pistons. How about you give a stat that supports your argument? The '06 eastern conference finals. The end.

Now all I gotta do is go to bballreference and find one player in which Rose's PPG total is lower than his career average and I can dub him a Rose stopper. Please.

QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 01:42 PM) You can see all of their head to head matchups here. Wade averages a little more than 21 a game vs. Rip as opposed to over 25 a game in his career. Yeah, that proves, like, nothing.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 01:41 PM) Poor J4L. The NBA thread has not been kind. GMAB. The Heat were a Wade injury away from consecutive finals appearances in '05 and '06. He skull-f***ed the Pistons when healthy.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 01:30 PM) Hamilton is supposedly one of the best there is at shutting down Wade. That's false. I have no clue who perpetrated that myth. That's almost as bad as Gerald Wilkins somehow getting a "Jordan stopper" reputation back in the early 90's.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 12:45 PM) And that's a foolish overpay. Mine was Korver, Brewer, 3 second rounders for Allen. Ahhhh. I see what you did before. NM.