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And kiss my ass sqwert. I've been trying to cut back on fatty foods the last few weeks and now I'm hungry as s***.

QUOTE (The Gooch @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 01:15 PM) Haha I had that exact meal for lunch yesterday. At least it wasn't my last meal I still prefer Gino's East although they closed the one by my house. As for my last meal: Appetizers: Steak Tar Tar and Oysters Rockefeller for Chef Klaus' Bloomin Onion from Outback Dinner: Medium Rare Filet Mignon Half Slab of BBQ Ribs Drinks: Mug of Spaten Optimator German Beer Glass of Middleton Irish Whiskey Dessert: Bananas Foster European Coffee I thought John Candy was dead? Anyway, mine is pretty simple: A giant T-bone, a baked potato SMOTHERED in sour cream, 1 corn on the cob and green beans, a dinner roll and a slice of lemon marange pie for desert. Oh, and plenty of Tequila afterwards.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Dec 16, 2010 -> 12:14 PM) Well they can guard your perimeter players, no doubt. And not a lot of teams have the tools to truly expose a weak interior defense, and even the ones that do won't always have the will to work hard enough to do it during regular season games. But the ones that do are the ones Miami will see in May. The Celtics are the beasts of the east. I've watched a few of their games and KG looks considerably better than he did last year. All I was saying that if we played the Heat in the playoffs that we'd have little to no shot. Would I love to be wrong? Of course.

QUOTE (Chi Town Sox @ Dec 16, 2010 -> 12:11 PM) That could not be further from the truth, nearly every team that wins has great depth Pick out a team on here that didn't have it because I am not seeing it. http://www.nba.com/history/finals/champions.html Well define depth? Do you mean 10-deep? Because that doesn't happen in the playoffs. I wasn't implying the bench meant nothing. But typically you're not going to play anymore then your top 7 regardless.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Dec 16, 2010 -> 12:04 PM) Interior defense, front line depth when the inevitable playoff foul trouble comes, and rebounding do matter though. The Heat have yet to do a thing that proves they can overcome such things against fellow playoff teams in a 7 game series. That's why I wondered about Haslem. That's such a big loss. And I never said the Heat were perfect. But we're not exactly the '99 Spurs when it comes to interior defense, either.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 16, 2010 -> 11:59 AM) Btw, we still haven't seen the Heat with Mike Miller. Has it been confirmed that Haslem is definitely out for the season?

QUOTE (Chi Town Sox @ Dec 16, 2010 -> 11:58 AM) I am sorry but what are people thinking? The Heat are vulnerable, they've played most of their last 10 game winning streak against garbage teams. They have lost to the Pacers, Bulls just beat the Lakers, why wouldn't they be able to beat the Heat (a team with no depth in the playoffs)? I am not saying that one team (or the Bulls) is superior to the next because this year is wide open with quite a few elite teams in the East but C'mon MAN Because depth doesn't matter in the playoffs nearly as much. This isn't college. If we play the Heat, they'll feature 3 of the 4 best players on the court.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 16, 2010 -> 11:41 AM) That depth + Rose is why I think we might actually be a great matchup against the Heat @ 100%. When has depth ever overcome star power in a playoff series? The Blazers of the early 2000's tried it. Didn't work. There were teams we beat during the title era that were deeper. But we had Jordan. End of story. It's a superstars league.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 16, 2010 -> 11:39 AM) Lets slow down on the Heat. Yes, I think they're going to end up being one of the better teams around but they're still under .500 against teams with a current record above the .500 mark and during this winning streak they've only beaten one of those teams on the road. Just as people were overreacting to the Heat struggles, I think people are overreacting to this win streak. As for the Bulls, when they're at full strength, I really don't see any reason why they can't compete with anyone in the Eastern Conference at this point. You make some good points. But they've won every game but one by double digits. They're not just squeaking by teams. They're dominating. And they did kick the s*** out of the Jazz (as you mentioned), Hornets and Hawks.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Dec 16, 2010 -> 11:30 AM) Screw him, he said publicly he doesn't want to play for the White Sox. Want no part of that tool. Amazing how anybody with his injury history would have the audacity to be picky. But like I said, I want nothing to do with him.

Looks like the Heat are taking over. Wade has basically said f*** it and isn't waiting around for LeBron anymore. It was inevitable. No team with that type of talent is going to underachieve long. I want to be excited about the Buls. But it's hard when ultimately you know they have little to no chance against the Celtics, Heat and probably the Magic.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 16, 2010 -> 11:04 AM) I'd take me some Kerry Wood. Seems like a formality that he ends up with the Cubs. And that's good. We've got enough injury concerns in Peavy and potentially Sale. I don't want to worry about the inevitable Wood DL trip every day.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 16, 2010 -> 11:07 AM) We produced a pretty good left handed reliever late last season. Let's just hope it doesn't stay that way. There's A LOT better ways to utilize the 13th overall pick in the draft then to waste it on a reliever.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 16, 2010 -> 10:21 AM) But he was awful in April and May and September wasn't anything to write home about. He was lights out for 3 months. This is a very scary signing IMO. Bill James predicts a rather large crash. All non-elite relievers signed to multi-year deals can be classified as scary signings. Outside of a trade, which is very difficult when EVERY team is looking for bullpen help, the only alternative really is to overpay, particularly in years. You see teams like the Braves spitting out guys like Craig Kimbrel and Johnny Venters in 1 year and wonder how the hell we haven't been able to produce a single quality reliever in, s***, I can't even remember.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Dec 16, 2010 -> 08:06 AM) I for one think the Sale is the closer and it's all but official, I've been saying this since last year. If Peavy isn't healthy come April is there a chance Sox signs a pitcher on a incetive deal someone that give them flexibility to fill in for Peavy or go to the bullpen or even be traded at the deadline for pieces? One name that comes to my mind is Brandon Webb, however, I have no idea what kind of money he is looking to get. It has been mentioned Cubs were looking at Webb and that's why I think Kenny had the media writing about Sox being interested in Wood, trying to force the Cubs to sign him. Of course I could be way off on this. Wait a minute? KW had the media writing about them being interested in Wood to force the Cubs to sign Webb? How does that make any sense?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 16, 2010 -> 07:47 AM) The one thing I'd really like to see is another obvious candidate for the LH reliever position if Thornty is genuinely going to be closing. It seems like there's a good shot Sale spends some time starting next year based on how people have talked, and even if he's in the pen, that gives only Sale as the situational lefty. Yeah, what LH is available? I know Feliciano is. But that's probably another 3-year deal. There's Joe Beimel (however you spell it). Ron Mahay is old and sucks now. I just can't see another multi-year deal handed out to another reliever. It's gonna have to be a trade.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 16, 2010 -> 07:28 AM) Hell, even if they don't bring another arm in: Thornton, Sale, Santos, Crain, Infante, Pena is a (potentially) solid 6 man pen, with a couple guys who can go more than 1 inning (Sale, Pena). I agree completely. I was content with the 'pen as is before the Crain signing. Now with Crain in place, I think the potential for the 'pen to be well above average is there. I'd rather not dish out another multi-year deal to another reliever (Wood). Let's see if for once we can produce one (Infante, Carter, Bellamy). As for the premise of the thread, I've made it pretty well known that I wasn't satisfied with the direction the team looked to be headed in. And I'm still skeptical that will ever be able to go on a sustained run with our inability to produce from within. But as far as 2011 goes, we should be pretty damn good. And if we could get rid of JP, I'd give up booze forever.

Wow.

QUOTE (hitlesswonder @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 07:34 PM) Well, it produced Santos and Sale last year...and Hudson for that matter. Santos is not a product of the White Sox system. And let's say he was...that's it? In 10 years you can't come up with 1-2 relievers from your own system? Sale as a first round pick would be a waste unless he became a dominant closer. Hudson? Who cares. He's not here anymore.

Other than Soriano, and that's obviously not happening, I don't like or am at the very least skeptical about every reliever still on the market. I really wish our system was capable of producing a damn arm or two.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 06:39 PM) I think its KW's job to put together a team that makes the playoffs. Twice in ten years in the AL Central doesn't exactly make him crafty to me. It makes him about average. Pretty much. Yeah, we've never sucked (save 2007). But second place finishes don't do much for me. Though Kenny gets big props for getting Adam Dunn.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 06:34 PM) I agree. The're still the Yankees. Imagine how excited we all would be if the current Yankees roster was the White Sox roster. Its a good thing the Sox aren't in the AL East. True. But they're not in the AL central. Whether they admit it or not, they had to sign Lee to counter what the Red Sox did even more so than the obvious fact he would've made them a much better team.

Still hasn't hit me yet that we've got this guy.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 03:45 PM) This is also not including his defensive ability, where Mauer is regarded to be a pretty good defensive catcher. I've seen the word adequate used to describe Santana. I'm sure he will improve and isn't just another Victor Martinez in the making, but he has a lot to do to even match Mauer. Assuming Santana fills out to his potential, I think a good analogy is something like Mauer to Pujols as Santana to Cabrera. Cabrera may be as good offensively as Pujols (or pretty damn close), but that difference in defense is absolutely huge. I agree completely. Which is why I said in my original post regarding this topic that I thought he could be a better offensive player. Not overall. I haven't seen enough of Santana defensively to come to my own conclusion. But I saw him hit. This kid is for real. The Dodger FO should be ashamed of themselves.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 03:17 PM) Umm, you are completely off the rocker. You want to make a bet here? This has to be one of the most ridiculous statements I've EVER seen. Santana will probably give you just as many doubles/OBP and MUCH more HR pop (save Mauer's fluke 2009 HR total). Maybe much more weren't the right words to use. But he has the potential to be better.