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QUOTE (longshot7 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 05:44 PM) Todd Helton? Barf.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 05:40 PM) I'd bleep myself if we got Kemp. How is he doing this year? He's having a down year. Especially in the field (which where the criticisms of his lack of effort stems from). But he's 26 and a legitimate 5-tool talent.

QUOTE (JPN366 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 05:38 PM) I don't think Kemp would really shock anybody. I'd be all for Ian Stewart though. It'd shock the s*** outta me.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 05:28 PM) See my earlier post Jordan, we were just throwin out names like Either, Greinke, Markakis, etc. It was after Cowley said Kenny is trying to shock the world. My bad then. I thought some were thinking these were legitimate possibilities. And it now looks like the Yankees are about to acquire Berkman.

Adrian Gonzalez? What is wrong with you people? Not sure trading your best player and MVP candidate on a team with the best record in the NL is a good message to send to your fanbase.

QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 05:22 PM) thanks for the LOL baseball guru, just killing time and throwing names out, and it was one I didn't even bring up initially. It wasn't a personal shot at you. It's just an unrealistic dream. Whoever brought that up pulled it out their ass. Other than John Danks or Beckham, we don't have a thing in our organization that could net us Ethier.

QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 05:19 PM) well, this thread is long enough and all over the place, so mods, any objection with playing the "guess who Cowley is talking about game"? Somebody mentioned Ethier earlier, good choice, I'll go with a little bit of an underwhelming name since he's RH, but Uggla. Ethier? lol. That's not happening.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 05:14 PM) No. Aside from a few scattered singles he hasn't been hitting the ball with a lot of authority lately. I have no idea what you're talking about. He's been hitting ropes, bombs and lasers all over the place this month.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 05:10 PM) He's worse than Mark Kotsay. At least Kotsay isn't making two trillion dollars.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 05:11 PM) How do the Yankees have this power over teams? Why couldn't we get salary dump Jackson w/out giving up our No. 1 pitching prospect? f***. What power? The Yankees power comes during the offseason when they can throw money at everything. They wanted Santana, Lee and Haren and couldn't land any of them.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 04:34 PM) I'd like to see Alex start driving the ball more. Green?

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 05:08 PM) What he didn't realize is that Carlos Lee is getting old and regressing. Plus, he is owed around $35 million over the next two years. You're asking for disaster by saying he should be traded here. He's been one of the worst every day players in baseball this year.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 04:49 PM) Ken_Rosenthal deal of their liking. #Rays can't be sure Dunn will succeed as DH after failed expriment w Burrell. #Nationals might be stuck. #Yankees #MLB 4 minutes ago Ken_Rosenthal Berkman to #Yankees could put #Nationals in bind with Dunn. Nats lose big potential suitor. #WhiteSox can hold out for (MORE) #Rays #MLB lol@that pathetic reasoning for not being sold on Dunn. That's actually beyond pathetic. And Dan Bernstein is one of my idols. It's Boers that I can't stand.

It is now 4:18 PM. And I still hate this f***ing trade.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 02:48 PM) Given that Javy had multiple years of success in the bigs, I agree that it's not a very good comparison. Somebody mentioned flipping Jackson to the Cubs for Lilly. I actually like that idea. That didn't stop us from killing him towards the end of '08. Take away Jackson's first half of '09, and he's been very mediocre.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 02:45 PM) Jackson's still young. When we got Javy, he was nearing his 30s. I'm in no way defending this deal, but I don't know if that's a great comparison. Javy's been the ultimate enigma since the second half of 2004 (he was 27 or 28 that year). It didn't just start when we got him. QUOTE (IceCreamPants @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 02:45 PM) You sir, are negative. And have been negative for some time now. Would you like a hug?.....I gave a cyber hug to T R U the other day and he has been a bowl of joy lately. My bad. Let me grab a bowl of ice cream with some colorful sprinkles and celebrate.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 02:41 PM) These two aren't THAT similar. Yes, they are. Great stuff, yadda, yadda. Performance does not back it up. Edwin didn't go from Tampa to Detroit to Arizona to us because he's really good.

Somebody needs to pull up some old Javy threads. I can't believe people are supporting this abomination of a trade.

QUOTE (AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:43 PM) Is that you Jerry? Are you physically paying $8 million dollars? It's funny. But true. We couldn't bring Thome back for peanuts or spend a measly 5 million or whatever it was the Rangers got Vlad for but we can spend 8 million on Javy Vazquez the sequel.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:35 PM) People can say that Hudson is overrated all they want but the point is that this is an extreme over pay no matter how the f*** you look at it and there's absolutely no denying that. This trade blows. This board is full of hypocrites. Everybody (including me) wanted Javy Vazquez decapitated two years ago. Now we get his clone and it's a great move.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:26 PM) he's had spasms of goodness. Not this year. He's just been good all-around.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:22 PM) Pedro Martinez? Convince him to change his mind about not pitching in 2010 Pedro hasn't thrown a pitch of relevance in 9 months. He's 38 and would probably need 6 weeks just to build his arm back up. No thanks.

QUOTE (Capn12 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:22 PM) Its funny, the only 2 prospect names I ever see mentioned are Richard and Gio. What about the other mass of names that have been declared the next big thing, only to be traded to someone else and disappear forever? Chris Young?

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:09 PM) I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Sox traded prospects never pan out. Clayton Richard and Gio Gonzalez are doing just fine.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 11:53 AM) If we got Markakis, we would have the best defensive outfield in baseball and it wouldn't even be close. I laugh when guys try to run on him.