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QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 02:52 PM) Greg, I have a question, and don't take it the wrong way because I'm not trying to be sarcastic or make fun of you, this is a serious question. Are you on some sort of drugs? I'm starting to believe what qwerty hinted at. This has got to be some kinda act by greg. He's like the most popular person here yet he drives everybody nuts.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 02:46 PM) It's hard to have a discussion with you because all you do is b**** about how we complain about Jenks. HOW THE f*** CAN WE NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT HIM? I'm still pissed that we're only 2 games up instead of 4 because Jenks forgot how to pitch. HE'S GOTTEN ONE f***ING OUT IN HIS PAST TWO SAVE OPPORTUNITIES. ONE f***ING OUT. And that out wasn't even a real out, Ichiro sacrificed himself. You tell me how you have any kind of leverage to blame us for b****ing about him. According to greg, the family emergency was just too big a obstacle for Bobby to overcome. He's scarred for life now.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 11:45 AM) I know a lot of people consider Danks our ace but I think Gavin is our best pitcher. I seem to struggle with this every week. Then I remember we have both of them. So I say f*** it.

The best pitcher in baseball (Josh Johnson) continues to make mince meat of NL lineups: 6.1 IP, 5 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 11 K. ERA now stands at 1.61.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 01:48 AM) Shelby Miller is the only legitimate guy they have. He would have to be in the deal. I can't see a team essentially handing the NL pennant to a division rival.

QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 12:51 AM) lets just have the eastern all-stars play the western all-stars and get it over with. There are going to be so many teams that just have absolutely no chance to compete (not that this doesn't happen anyways). This whole Free Agent thing has left a horrible taste in my mouth, it all seems a lot less like sports and a whole lot more like some type of television show. I dont know. Thank god for college hoops. I seriously don't like the direction the NBA is headed in right now.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 01:05 AM) Cardinals are the leaders to acquire Oswalt (per rotoworld) How is this possible? What the hell do the Cards have in their system that Houston could possibly want? Carpenter/Wainwright/Oswalt. That's kinda scary come October.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 12:59 AM) How do you guys explain Wagner blowing a 2 run lead tonight? What closers are automatic these days? Tell me those closers. I hate you.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 12:57 AM) Billy Wagner blew a 2 run lead tonight. Blown save. Yeah, closers are automatic ... not. Comparing Billy Wagner and Bobby Jenks is like comparing Michael Jordan and Craig Ehlo.

QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 12:44 AM) You can't possibly look at any of Jenks numbers, besides bulls*** SV%, and think anything but awful I think deplorable.

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 12:38 AM) FYI jenks isn't the closer anymore per Ozzie, going by committee, and i guarantee you all this it came from Kenny we all know ozzie would rush fatass out there every single time no matter how bad he is, thank you K-Dub lol@Ozzie listening to Kenny.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 12:18 AM) I think bobby might be great in a setup role. But not closer. It's not like he's making good pitches and they're just hitting them. He doesn't even throw a curve for strikes anymore....something's wrong. Why would he be better in a set-up role? His stuff blows. Doesn't matter what inning he pitches.

I'll believe it when I see it. I fully expect Bobby to get the call next time there's a save oppo.

No point in even complaining anymore. Ozzie's gonna roll Jenks' jellyroll ass out there at the very next save chance. Bobby is simply a bad pitcher.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 09:13 PM) Quentin is far too valuable to the White Sox to get anywhere near full value for him. To the White Sox, he's a great #4-5 hitter who has the potential to hit 30+ homers this season still. To any other team, he's an injury risk who is not good defensively who also happens to be an extremely streaky hitter. You can't deal Quentin in any deal and realistically still call yourselves contenders. A lot of the White Sox season is riding on his shoulders, which is the biggest reason the Sox are coddling him through every single injury. Besides the SP, we wouldn't even be talking about upgrading if not for CQ going nuts. There's no scenario in which you subtract Carlos that this team gets better.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 09:09 PM) I'm not talking about the COMPOSITE/ACCUMULATED seasonal stats. I'm talking about the actual White Sox defensive line-up on the field the last couple of nights. That means Omar Vizquel and not Teahen at 3B, the best version we've ever seen of Alexei Ramirez, a confident Gordon Beckham at 2B and Andruw Jones instead of Quentin in RF. That's a very different team than April/May of 2010. We've had two aberrational games (ones with Viciedo and even Vizquel struggling, although we did win the 5 error game) with a total of 9 errors combined, but I'm sure if you look at those other 35/37 games, you'll see a tremendous difference between the two defenses. So player for player? I could agree that it's better. But it certainly hasn't been anywhere close overall.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 09:10 PM) Pirates haven't signed either guy yet, have they? I have no idea. I'm assumed they had or at least will.

QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 08:55 PM) I think the catcher they took is having success in minors too and Jose Tabata/Neil Walker look like solid players too. I hope they can have success soon. Tony Sanchez. Then you've got Jameson Taillon and Stetson Allie who they took with their first two picks this past draft. The future is definitely looking good for the Pirates.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 08:58 PM) I seriously hate him on television. He's annoying, obnoxious, and ignorant. He's been dead to me ever since he said Martin Prado was his first half NL MVP.

According to UZR, DER (defensive efficiency ratio), and PADE (park adjusted defensive efficiency), the 2010 defense is not even comparable to the 2005 defense.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 08:43 PM) So, this Pedro Alvarez guy isn't that bad! Best player from the '08 draft. No doubt in my mind. And I can't help but feel good that the Pirates and their fans FINALLY have not one but two (McCutchen being the other) legitimate future superstar players to embrace and build around. Those fans deserve it.

QUOTE (Ranger @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 07:44 PM) How do setup men affect save percentage? You either pitch in a save situation or you don't. Jenks has no control over whether they get the ball to him in the 9th with a 3 run lead or less and it wouldn't affect the percentage of times he's successful. Totally disagree with this on a baseball level. How many teams do you honestly think would've handled Jenks differently? Most teams give a closer of his track record a number of opportunities. I would argue that there isn't a single organization that would've pulled the plug on him yet if they were given the exact same personnel. Meh. I was pretty damn emotional after that game. I've come to accept that for as long as Jenks is here he'll be the closer. But I won't shed a single tear when he's gone after this year. Thank you for 2005-2007. But he makes too much money for a non-elite closer.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 06:51 PM) Putz has made 36 appearances this season; he allowed a run to score -- whether inherited or otherwise -- in only 5 of those outings. He's had 21 outings in which he did not allow a hit. 18 of his 36 outings have been perfect. He's had only FIVE outings in which he's allowed multiple baserunners. He's also yet to allow a run -- whether inherited or otherwise -- on the road this season. That's 19 IP, 24 K, .152/.200/.182/.382 against and 7 IR/0 IS. He's allowed 5 extra base hits this season, good for 3rd among all relievers with at least 30 IP (Benoit and Venters have allowed 4 each) In other words, he's been the complete opposite of Randy Williams.

My name is Jordan4life, and Josh Hamilton has been a good baseball player since June 1st: .440/.471/.789/1.259.

QUOTE (VAfan @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 02:32 PM) I hope the Sox DO NOT trade for Adam Dunn. The reasons are many. 1. Carlos Quentin needs to DH much of the second half to stay healthy. Getting Dunn will relegate Quentin to the OF, where if he gets hurt, will negate much of the value of adding Dunn as a bat. 2. Dunn does not want to DH, and therefore would not be looking to help the Sox after this year. Why add a potential malcontent to a happy clubhouse? 3. What would Dunn's presence do for Paul Konerko? With his "retirement" comments, it looks like Konerko is positioning himself to return to the Sox on maybe a 2-year + option deal. If Dunn were here, you'd have to offer him arbitration to get the draft picks. What if he accepted? Would that mean having to cut payroll, i.e., Paul Konerko? 4. The W. Post talks about the price being Viciedo+ or Hudson+. Viciedo is likely our best young hitter not named Beckham. He can play 3B, 1B, DH, and probably the outfield. Why trade a young hitter for a rental before we know how good he is. Forget Cabrera -- remember Bobby Bonilla. Bonilla was traded for Doug Drabek I think. Drabek was done, Bonilla took off. Hudson is our 5th starter. We have nothing reliable behind him. After the semi-meltdown in Minnesota this week, we have to keep our identity, which is solid starting pitching. I wouldn't trade either for a rental player. I would trade Hudson for a better pitcher like Roy Oswalt. I probably wouldn't trade Viciedo at all -- not until I give him a better chance to see what his upside might be. 5. Let's say we get to the postseason. You are trading good young players under control for several years for basically 20 ABs from Adam Dunn. Pitching dominates the postseason, not lumbering sluggers like Adam Dunn. Dunn has no postseason experience, so we have nothing to go on. But given the struggles of guys like A-Rod and Bonds and others in the postseason, you might get nothing at all out of Dunn. In the only Sox game I've been to this year (at Nationals Park), Freddy Garcia handled him easily. How do you think he'll do against CC Sabathia and Andy Pettitte? 6. Dunn destroys flexibility. He's a lumbering DH who doesn't want to DH. If you put him in the field, it's worse. 7. Starting pitching is the key to the postseason. The Sox should be angling for a guy like Roy Oswalt. Gives us a power pitcher at the front of the rotation. Helps all pitching matchups in the postseason. Keeps him away from the Yanks/Tigers/Twins. Much more likely to win a postseason game than a slugger like Dunn. I would take Dunn only if the price were no front-line prospects, but I assume Washington would pass and take the draft picks instead if they can't sign him. So in Peavy, Buehrle, Oswalt and Rios you're talking almost 59 million dollars in salary for 2011. Yeah, that's, like, not happening.