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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 07:03 PM) Who knows, maybe there is an unknown nagging injury. Maybe the weight of carrying that team finally is pulling him down a bit. Does Vogel run him like Thibs did Deng? Haha. I think I know what might be the problem now. This idiot, who's dating Doc Rivers' daughter, (had no clue about that) hooked up with a stripper last summer and now she's pregnant. He allegedly offered her 1 million to abort. But, of course, she said f*** no to that. As she'll get MUCH MORE than that in child support for the next 18 years. Oh my goodness. How could this happen? They warn you about this s***. Wrap that s*** up or atleast pull. stupid ass. This story just came out like a week ago, which I hadn't heard/read about until I googled Paul George 10 minutes ago. My game would fall off to if I had to say goodbye to millions because of a one-night stand with a stripper. Moron.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 06:45 PM) This is mostly why we keep telling you not to say "this guy is better than....." How do you just forget how to shoot, though? Even if his early season numbers were a little unsustainable, I mean c'mon. He's shooting 36% in his last 12 games. He's been broke just about all of '14. This is not good for Heat Haters. If Paul George doesn't play superstar ball against the Heat, it's done.

Man, what the hell has happened to Paul George? In Nov/Dec he was a roided up Scottie. Now lately he's broker than the time I missed 13 layups in a row playing against two 6th graders.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Feb 10, 2014 -> 10:30 AM) Good god your just as ugly as I remember. That wasn't very nice.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Feb 12, 2014 -> 08:00 PM) Are you saying Melo isn't a superstar? Or am I missing something here? He's saying Carmelo isn't a superstar. And he's right. But who the f*** cares. He'd be the best player we've had here since you know who. Carmelo+legitimate coach+legitimate cast could very well equal out to superstar.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Feb 11, 2014 -> 08:31 PM) NBA League Pass is blocking me from watching Bulls games, telling me to go to CSN Chicago. I live in Missouri. That sucks. Brother Quinarvy, come over to my crib for some beer and nachos.

QUOTE (Spod=Ratings @ Feb 11, 2014 -> 07:57 PM) Noah is an absolute beast. Triple Double by half???? Meh. It's bittersweet aka annoying. Rose goes down, we have no chance of winning anything, and Noah decides to play the best ball of his career therefore eliminating (along with the rise of Augistine) any chance at a a stud in the draft.

Nice to see Anthony Bennett playing a little better. Unlike guys like Kwame and Bargnani, I think there's legitimate talent there.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 11, 2014 -> 06:40 PM) That is where I am. The Celtics, Heat, and Lakers have proven if you have the stud core, other players will jump on the bandwagon... along with J4L. Lame. But I digress. Carmelo makes the Bulls legit, especially in the east. This franchise has to do something. 90210 was still goin' last time the Bulls were relevant.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 9, 2014 -> 08:55 PM) The Clippers are up 28-5 on the Sixers with 5:40 left in the first. Have fun with the Sixers now. If they get Wiggins, it's on for them. They got Noel coming back and MCW has proven to be flawed but plenty legit. That's potentially an elite ball-stopper, versatile wing defender and rim protector on the same team.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Feb 9, 2014 -> 08:52 PM) Are you sure you've seen KG play? You don't really hear that much about Barkley or Malone other than "well, they didn't win a ring". I doubt that happens with Dirk either if he doesn't win. Yeah, the fire and passion example was off. But you know what I mean. And Barkley and Malone played before the internet/social media era. And are you serious about Dirk? Not only did his team blow a 2-0 lead to miami, they come back the next year and get bounced by the 8th seeded warriors. His legacy would look MUCH DIFFERENT if not for '11.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Feb 9, 2014 -> 08:37 PM) I really doubt anyone would question KG's work ethic under any circumstances. Then it would've been something else. KG was too unselfish. He didn't have enough fire and passion. He wasn't aggressive. And then somebody like you would've cited his supporting cast.

Orlando with back to back 1 point wins against OKC and Indy.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Feb 9, 2014 -> 08:29 PM) He was my favorite player in the late 90s-early 00s, even though he snubbed Chicago when he signed in Orlando. He was never as lazy about the game nor lack the heart as his cousin Vince (as I've stated repeatedly could of been/should of been one of the greatest ever) did and actually made the most out of what he had offensively during that time/prime/peak. Now with that said.. with his athleticism, length, quickness, movement without the ball, etc. he should of had much more impact on the game defensively. (most of that is on him, but he was always the man since high school and he never had the best defensive coaches either strategically, same as Carmelo currently) A shame what injuries did to him later on. Also a shame he didn't pay attention to detail as much on the court during stretches. He probably could've had Grant Hill been healthy. Again, look at what he had to work with. Awful.

So you've gone from mediocre work ethic to not the best practice player? Um, ok. When I think work ethic, i think about what you're doing in the offseason and when nobody is around to tell you what to do. Not what you're doing in practice against Ty Lue.

QUOTE (Willard Decker @ Feb 9, 2014 -> 08:13 PM) You made the original assertion about McGrady's work-ethic. You dismissed the eye-witness accounts of Jeff Van Gundy- a respected former NBA head coach- on the basis that someone who grabs Alonzo Mourning's leg to protect one of his players is not to be trusted. You have repeatedly sidestepped the issue of McGrady's work-ethic by citing meaningless statistics about minutes-played as though the numbers in question serve as irrefutable proof of McGrady's willingness to put forth a consistent effort in both practice and games. Therefore, the burden of proof in this case rests with you. --Captain Decker Zzzzzzzz. He never won a title. Therefore you can critique and criticize. If KG doesn't win in '08 and Dirk doesn't win in '11, lots of people would be doing the same thing with those two. It's lame and boring and i'm done. T-mac was arguably the second greatest sg we've ever seen and his dominance was cut wayyyyyy short because of physical setbacks. The end. see ya.

QUOTE (Willard Decker @ Feb 9, 2014 -> 08:04 PM) None of these points addresses the matter at hand: Tracy McGrady's work-habits. By now, everyone who's followed basketball over the past fifteen years knows of McGrady's injury history. It's also known that he was not an effective player unless he was playing within a system in which he was the primary scorer and ball-handler, as he seldom impacted the game defensively save for brief stretches. Why is this relevant? Because defensive prowess is determined by the combination of awareness and effort, both of which were lacking where McGrady was concerned. --Captain Decker Check the post right above this one. You say I haven't proven anything. what the hell have you proven? You could look at Charles Barkley and Shaq a lot of years and say to youreself, "damn, dude ate too many cheeseburgers during the offseason." When could you ever say that about T-mac? Where's the actual eye proof evidence that he was lazy or didn't work hard enough in the offseason?

QUOTE (Willard Decker @ Feb 9, 2014 -> 07:54 PM) No, it's not. This is about your assertion that McGrady's inability to fulfill his potential as a basketball player may be blamed solely on injuries to his knees and lower-back, an assertion that you've yet to prove. --Captain Decker And what exactly have you proven? You spit out some quotes from a perennial loser in Van Gundy and that's about it. Do you know what T-mac's daily workout regimen was during his playing days? Particularly his Orlando days?

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Feb 9, 2014 -> 07:50 PM) His issues weren't nearly as bad as Rose. He still played 78, 71 and 66 games 3 of those years in Houston and only missed the playoffs once in those 5 years. Chris Webber had similar/worse issues and didn't fall off nearly as precipitously. Just because you're out there playing doesn't mean you're healthy or 100%. T-mac's slashing/penetration game was never the same after '05 and it's not because defenses figured him out. And Webber never had a peak as high as t-macs. therefore the drop wouldn't be as great.

And quite honestly, couldn't you question or nitpick about something of any player that never won a title? If I really wanted to, I get on a lot of really, really great players that didn't win titles. Ultimately, that's what it's all about.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Feb 9, 2014 -> 07:44 PM) I gotta admit, it's not a great sign when one of your nicknames is "The Big Sleep." Would have still gladly taken him at his peak, but he had a really short one. That's what happens when your body doesn't cooperate. Chicago fans should know all about that. 2011 Rose more than likely was the best version of him we'll ever see.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 9, 2014 -> 07:32 PM) Google "Tracy McGrady lazy" I've seen those dumb sites. They're making fun of his lazy eye as much as anything. 40.1 38.3 39.4 40.0 40.8 Those were his minutes played from '01 to '05, his best ball. Those minutes at that level, yeah, lazy is not the word that comes to mind. T-mac is an easy target because he never got out the first round. But dude was great.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 9, 2014 -> 07:26 PM) I don't know who strange theme poster-dude is, but McGrady's lack of work ethic is the stuff of legends lmao. If you say so. Shaq coming into every season, outside of his mvp one, fat and out of shape got wayyyyyyyyy more pub than T-mac's so-called lack of work ethic.

QUOTE (Willard Decker @ Feb 9, 2014 -> 07:13 PM) As a matter of fact, I did say that on several occasions. McGrady entered the league as an above-average defensive player but regressed rapidly during his four seasons in Orlando, something that anyone who watched him play on a regular basis would have noticed. That Jeff Van Gundy later made statements about his work-ethic didn't surprise me, as I'd already seen evidence of such for myself. And please don't presume to put words in my mouth. Few things irritate me more than people who believe they know better than I do what I think about a particular topic. --Captain Decker I don't agree with this. But let's pretend for a second I do. Darrell Armstrong Bo Outlaw Mike Miller John Amaechi Pat Garrity Monty Williams Andrew Declerq Patrick Ewing (not the Knicks version) Horace Grant (lol) Steven Hunter Drew Gooden Gordon Giracek Shawn Kemp (lmao) Juwan Howard Keith Bogans Tyrone Lue This is just some of the utter garbage T-mac had to play with in his Orlando days. Is it that hard to imagine that one guy that had to carry so much of the scoring/playmaking load would suffer a little defensively?

QUOTE (Willard Decker @ Feb 9, 2014 -> 07:07 PM) When the lowest common denominator on each of the teams in question is Tracy McGrady, the bulk of the responsibility for the failure of each team to advance rests with him. Is that fair? No, but only the most naïve individual would argue that professional sports should be fair. Competition isn't about fairness- beyond proper observance of a sport's rules and regulations by all competitors- but about the ability of one team or individual to overcome another. Tracy McGrady's teams couldn't overcome the obstacles placed before them. --Captain Decker Good thing LeBron was smarter than this. He'd still be in Cleveland getting bounced in the 2nd round every year.