Jordan4life_2007

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Feb 6, 2007 -> 01:00 PM) Give me the big man. With one major exception, big guys win championships. Durant could very well be the next T-Mac, but Oden can very easily be the next Duncan. Both are fantastic prospects, and both have their positives and negatives. Oden strengths- Size, defense, athleticism, post offense looks a lot better now that his wrist is healthy. Is still a dominant force even though he has played much of the year at less than 100%. weaknesses- Not a great offensive player yet, though he is still farther along than the vast majority of big men, especially for a freshmen. Defense away from the basket still needs some major work, MSU just abused him on the pick and roll. Durant strengths- Monster offensive player, can score in basically every way imaginable, great athlete, good size on the wing, very good ball-handler for his size. weaknesses- Needs to bulk up, will be harder for him to finish inside in the pros. Not very good at creating shots for others. Defense is a major negative right now, though he does have the athleticism to be an excellent wing defender. In the end I don't think you can go wrong with either player. Both look like they will be future stars. However, to win big I think Oden is the answer. You've got a lot more margin for error with the other pieces around a dominant big man than you do with a dominant wing player. Zoom pretty much summed it up. QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Feb 6, 2007 -> 02:53 PM) All I'm saying is that Durant impresses me as much as Lebron did... I think Lebron would've averaged a triple double in college.

QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ Feb 6, 2007 -> 07:09 AM) backup to Darrin Erstad and ryan Sweeney. late inning pinch runner. .269, 9 SB one season long pass for what he did against Brad Lidge Pods, Geoff Blum and Jermaine always get passes. ?

Deng and Nocioni? Jerry has to realize he has no real leverage here.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Feb 5, 2007 -> 11:40 PM) Everything you need to know. Who asked you? Your QB is Joey Harrington.

Question for Kalapse and Willie, where was all this pre-superbowl? I'm not saying you guys acted as if Rex was the perfect qb, or even a very good one. But why now are you acting as if Rex is a lost cause and will never get better?

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 5, 2007 -> 10:20 PM) Can you think of ANY other QB in the past 30 years who found above average personal success sustained over the course of a career despite having the same physical limitations as Rex Grossman? There's no one in football right now and I can't think of any others. Not off the top of my head. I'm sure I could if I looked. Look, I'm not looking for Peyton Manning, Dan Marino or Joe Montana. The most realistic things he can improve on that would make him better is learning how to consistently handle pressure, especially up the middle, and knowing when to attack and when to take what the d gives you. And although he's slow overall, I think he should be better as far as moving around in the pocket. I don't know if he's scared to get hurt again or what. But he needs to get over that.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Feb 5, 2007 -> 10:14 PM) 3 assists. God he's just amazing to watch. I know. f***in' Knicks. Actually, I blame fatass Eddy Curry. Figures he would have his best year this year of all years.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 5, 2007 -> 10:12 PM) Yes, what's so hard to understand? Look at his positives, look at his negatives I don't see how he can even overcome some of the deficiencies in his game. If he is able to get past these, he'll be the first in a long time and the only one in the NFL to do so. The odds aren't exactly in his favor. Just because someone is the starting QB for a Super Bowl team doesn't mean he lead them their, just ask Tony Eason. I'll say one thing, they certainly didn't get their in spite of Rex but I wouldn't say he lead them their. The run game and defense played larger roles in the team's success than Rex did. Well, if you remember, the running game was pretty s***ty for the first 6 weeks or so. We still won all those games because Rex was playing out of his mind (not including the Arizona game). I agree about the defense, well, atleast when Tommie Harris and Mike Brown were healthy. The D was never the same after we lost those two. Call me a Rex jocker if you want, but I believe all the crap he's gone through this last year will make him a much, much, much better player next year and beyond.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Feb 5, 2007 -> 09:54 PM) Durant with a poke steal gives it up for a James dunk. What a f***ing God. He does everything. Except pass.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Feb 5, 2007 -> 10:03 PM) I don't know if he really guided the team nearly as much as the defense and running game did. And, for s***s and giggles, let's compare Rex Grossman (R1, 22, 2003) to JP Losman (R1, 22, 2004), both in their first full years as starters....so one would expect them to be rougly the same caliber QB. Rex - 3193 yards, 54.2% (262/480), 23/20 TD/INT, 72.3 rating, 21 sacks, 7 fumbles, 5 lost JP - 3051 yards, 62.5% (268/429), 19/14 TD/INT, 84.9 rating, 47 sacks, 13 fumbles, 7 lost And I think we can agree that Rex had a superior offensive line, and we can also probably agree that Losman played in not only a much more difficult division, but dealt with a more difficult conference and schedule. It's funny, because JP was considered to be a bust and a horrible pick by a few people on here before the season. Well, by my estimation, Rex had 4 REALLY bad games this past year (I don't count the meaningless last game against the Packers). He had more games with a 100 passer rating or better than any other QB in football. In the first two playoff games, when they absolutely needed him to make a play, he did. So, yes, I give Rex credit for getting us there. This wasn't like Trent Dilfer in 2000. I realize that in the big bad world of sports, you're only as good as your last game. And Rex played like s*** in his last game. But I choose to look at the body of work over one game, even a game as big as the SB.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 5, 2007 -> 09:39 PM) Yeah that's bulls***, after giving him the benefit of the doubt for a full 19 game season and backing him the whole way I'm putting his tools on the table, taking a look at his body of work and I'm not liking what I'm seeing, I'm really starting to doubt whether Rex can be a franchise QB or not. I'm leaning toward not. Positives: - He throws a great ball, the ball often comes out of his hand with explosion, great velocity and a tight spiral, he throws an incredibly catchable ball. - He has a a canon, enough said he can bomb the damn ball. - He does have moments of incredible accuracy on the deep ball, he's hit Berrian for a few of the best passes I've ever seen, he is capable of hitting his man in stride. - He is fairly accurate throwing to the post and seam routes when he doesn't have someone in his face, he's especially proficient at hitting the tightend/slot receiver down the seam but that's only when he has some time to work and a clear view of the receiver - He inspires confidence from his teammates and coaches, they seem to love the guy and his teammates seem to have a lot of confidence in his abilities, judging by the playcalling the Super Bowl however I wonder if the coaching staff trusts him in the big game, I'm guessing not. - He's a pretty tough guy, when he is taking a beating he tends to get back up and is ready to take some more - He's incredibly ballsy, good and bad Negatives: - He's short, 5'11"-6'0" he's one of the shortest starting QBs in the NFL, I believe Vick is the only one who is shorter - He's slow as s***, the guy can't run at all - Can not throw on the run with any accuracy - He has very small hands - He is terrible at identifying the rush and avoiding the blitz, on top of his lack of speed he has a terrible pocket presence and no scrambling ability. - He's prone to major lapses in judgment such as tossing the ball up in the air 3-5 times a game often leading to picks. - When the pocket collapses he tends to panic which leads to terrible passes and fumbles. He needs to calm the f*** down when the defense gets in the backfield. - He has trouble securing the ball, this leads to even more turnovers, when taking a sack he needs to just wrap up the ball and go down instead of allowing it to come out as he often does. - When he gets jittery in the pocket he tends to release the ball at odd angles and takes a lot of velocity off his passes leading to wounded ducks and lob passes. How many QBs can you think of had these shortcomings but have still succeeded at the NFL level? Do those positives outweigh the negatives? Can he over come his short comings and become one of the first short, slow QBs of all time to actually find success in the NFL? I'm starting to think he can't. Guiding a team to the SB in his first full year as the starter doesn't qualify as success? Or do you mean sustained success?

QUOTE(Brian @ Feb 5, 2007 -> 09:10 PM) Saw a stat earlier that Durant is only averaging 33 points in conference games. He's ok, I guess. He or Oden would look nice in a Bulls jersey. Now only if the Knicks would start losing again. He's sick. Only thing I don't like about him is he makes Gilbert Arenas look like John Stockton as far as passing goes. When Durant gets the rock, that baby is goin' up.

QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 5, 2007 -> 09:04 PM) I would settle for out of his ass at this point. Rex has been schooled time and time and time again. He's not getting it - likely thanks to the s***ty Florida school system. Yes he can play, the problem is he knows it and his nose is too far up in the air afraid to smell his own s***. What he needs is a good ass kicking, or a humiliation in the SB hopefully, to bring him back down to earth. And I don't hate him, nor am I sour about the SB. What I am is sick and tired of watching him continue to struggle with s*** he should be doing in his sleep coming out of camp. He's a pro football player. He needs to start acting like one and since i'm on a roll here he also needs to stfu to the media when he gets deservingly razzed. God damn I love when Steff gets aggressive. I get excited.

I want Vitale beheaded. I've been waiting to see Durant again live for a while. But this moron is so damn annoying that I'm about to turn the s*** off.

Damn, I didn't know the Texas/Texas A&M game was on ESPN. A rare chance to see the best college basketball player in the world live.

Congrats to Greasy and Heads. That's it. Anybody else who claims to be a Colts fan on here is bandwagon.

QUOTE(Jimbo @ Feb 5, 2007 -> 04:32 PM) How old are you? 23

QUOTE(Jimbo @ Feb 5, 2007 -> 04:21 PM) 3 Red Bull Vodkas(which is nothing) woudl not change my thinking of Pods, hell the entire 1/5th wont change my opinion, he sucks. I know. I usually can drink 3 without getting buzzed. Maybe because I haven't eaten today. Damn Bears have robbed me of my appetitie.

.320 BA 10 HRs 55 RBI 75 SB .375 OBP I'm just had 3 glasses of vodka/redbull.

I got a whopping 27 minutes of sleep last night. This game seriously needs to hurry up and start.

Is this dude a lefty or righty?

QUOTE(knightni @ Feb 2, 2007 -> 11:31 PM) My house. First 10 fans in the door get free drinks if they bring nachos. The second 10 get free nachos if they bring drinks. Did somebody say free drinks? I want to come over.

I'm watching it at home. No friends. No girls. Hell, I might even kick my family out during the game. I need total silence and concentration for this one.

QUOTE(Jimbo @ Feb 2, 2007 -> 12:41 AM) Its officially Friday....2 days to the SUPER BOWL.......aka drinkey drinkey drinkey weekend./ I'm gonna be so fat Sunday. Pizza, italian beefs, hot wings, nachos, ect, oh my!

QUOTE(Jimbo @ Jan 31, 2007 -> 11:59 PM) Gordon chokes as usual and PJ Brown is old. Again, stick to Kansas hoops.