Jordan4life_2007

QUOTE(ptatc @ Jan 11, 2007 -> 09:39 PM) Phil Jackson was not going to be the coach because he tried a power play with Krause to get to JR and lost. Phil Jackson while a good coach is a crappy human being he divorced his wife and dated the owner of the LA lakers daughter to get the GM fired there. He won that powerplay. Care to be specific? Are you joking? Toni Kukoc made more money than Scottie did during the title years. He was most definitely underpaid. A smart GM would know when he has it good. There's plenty of time to suck and rebuild. What the Bulls had was beyond special. He should've done everything he could to keep it going. That's just my opinion. Krause wanted to do it without Michael. He wanted to do it without Phil. He made a complete fool out of himself.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jan 11, 2007 -> 09:38 PM) FINISH A f***ING GAME JUST ONE TIME! It's amazing. The core of this team has been together 3 years and they still make the same mistakes over and over and over and over again. And big props to Ben Wallace and his 0 point, 6 rebound game against the mighty Nets frontcourt. And why the hell did we draft Sefolosha again? PLAY HIS ASS! Chris Duhon should not be starting!

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jan 11, 2007 -> 07:29 PM) Phil Jackson was leaving. JR basically offered Phil a blank check to come back and he refused. Jordan said he wouldn't play for anyone but Jackson. So he retired, and cut a finger on a cigar cutter which would have cost him at least most if not all of the next season. Rodman would never have fit in with anyone but Jackson, and Pippen was given a huge gift by Krause, which he didn't have to do, a sign and trade which netted him millions more than he could have signed for. Blaming Krause for the break-up was the trendy thing to do, but not accurate. The year Jordan retired for the first time, Krause put together a team that was one horrible Hue Hollins call away from making the NBA finals, and that's with the heart and soul of your team walking away a few days before training camp. He obviously made some mistakes later after everyone left, and part of the problem may have been some arrogance on his part, which ironically more than one writer has accused KW of having now that he has won the ultimate prize. Jerry Krause said before the last championship season that there's no way in hell Phil Jackson would be the coach after that year. He wanted Tim Floyd. And, if IIRC, Tim Floyd was hired as President of Basketball Operations before Phil had even made his decision. You don't think that would piss a normal person off? Let alone a guy that coached 6 titles? JR offering Phil to come back after that was basically damage control. That way they can say "well, we tried to bring him back, but he declined." It should've never came to that anyway. A gm with a brain would've locked Phil up a long time ago. If Phil's back, more than likely Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, ect are all back. Yes, Jordan did cut his hand or whatever. But I don't think he would've missed an entire season. But that point is moot since MJ wasn't gonna play without Phil. Pippen had been underpaid for years, and he was gonna get his money regardless. A smart gm, or atleast a gm that didn't have an agenda, would've done ANYTHING and EVERYTHING possible to keep that team together. Period. I believe we had another two championships left with that group. And he did a lot more than just make some mistakes after everyone left. The mistakes he made were the kinda that set franchises back years. 1: Traded Elton Brand for Tyson Chandler. 2: Traded Ron Artest, Brad Miller and Ron Mercer for Jalen Rose 3: Wasted precious lottery picks on bums like Marcus Fizer and Jamal Crawford. 4: Failed miserably to sign even halfway decent free agents to keep the team competitive. Bulls record from '99 through '03 (Krause's last year): 96-282 That's some historic losing. That overrides anything positive he did, IMO. I'm glad the bum is gone. It's no concidence that we're back to being respectable with him out of the way. Does he even have a job now?

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 11, 2007 -> 05:54 PM) Please get started. There arent many gm's out there in any sport that has brought 6 championships to a city. So please continue. And there's not many gm's who had Michael. I mean it wasn't all MJ, obviously. But that sure did help. And, yes, he deserves credit for putting the pieces around Jordan. I've always given him that much. But he deserves just as much, if not more, of the blame, for one, the dynasty being prematurely broken up, and two, the utter crap the franchise became from '99-'2004.

QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Jan 11, 2007 -> 11:58 AM) Pam Anderson Anna Nicole Smith Paris Hilton Carmen Electra Angelina Jolie Jessica Biel Charlize Theron Eva Longoria What the? Jessica Biel is the only female in history to cause me to have a giant boner for 2 hours straight. I couldn't even get up to get a refil on popcorn during TCM.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jan 11, 2007 -> 10:59 AM) Anna Nicole Smith and Pam Anderson. Never was a huge fan of either (I'm talking about there hay-days too). Anna was always a bit big for me while Pam was pretty good looking but I don't think she was near as pretty as a lot of other girls, she just happened to be running on the beach a lot (ah what a classic show). Jason, I demand you to take your life. She's not all that anymore. But in her prime, good god damn! The girl that gets way too much hype for me is Tyra Banks. Yuck! Have you seen her without makeup? It's scary.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jan 11, 2007 -> 05:05 PM) No GM anywhere was hated more than Jerry Krause in Chicago, and he has 6 rings. And he deserves every ounce of that hate. Don't get me started on that fool.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jan 11, 2007 -> 01:06 PM) If Oden isn't as good as adversited, whoever takes him #1 over Durant in the draft in June will regret it. Durant's skill set is unreal, like a combo of Garnett and McGrady. He's as good as advertised. He's more than holding his own with one healthy hand. His offensive game is still raw. No surprise. But his other talents, well, they're just unreal. I'll always take a big over a small. But, yes, Durant is just sick. Why oh why are the Knicks f***ing our pick up! Yo, WHarris, did you lose a bet?

Kevin Durant > anyone not named Oden in college basketball

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jan 11, 2007 -> 12:48 AM) Dwight Howard's going 30-30 on someboy's ass soon. It'll probably be on Ben Wallace. I want his ass gone.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jan 11, 2007 -> 12:47 AM) Yeah that's what I was referring to from Rogers. Rasner could be the guy that turns to Danks trade from a good one, to a great one. I think Masset is the guy that turns this trade from a good one to a great one. If Rasner does anything of note, this trade turns into a steal.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jan 11, 2007 -> 12:23 AM) I would love to feel good about Mark going into 2007, but he gave me no reason to believe he will be any better than he was in the 2nd half of 2006. He didn't really lose any off his stuff, and he claimed he was healthy, so did he just forget how to pitch, um, good? Going into to 2007, I would take Sabathia hands down. I pray Mark proves me wrong. Mark did admit that he was out of shape most of last season. And, if you believe Kenny, the '05 playoffs took a big toll on not only him, but all of our starters. We shall see.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jan 11, 2007 -> 12:17 AM) Actually it kind of does when talking about his prospects for the 2007 season, he picked the wrong ass time to suck for 3 months because he has A LOT to prove now. Fair enough. I don't agree, but I see your point. I do agree that Mark has plenty to prove.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jan 10, 2007 -> 11:56 PM) Going into 2007, CC Sabathia does in fact kick the s*** out of Mark Buehrle. Well if you do it that way A LOT of guys kick the s*** out of Mark. I don't think 3 months, although they were horrible, overrides 5 1/2 years.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jan 10, 2007 -> 10:55 PM) Ok, Sabathia kicks the s*** out of Buehlre, Westbrook and Contreras is basically a wash except when you take into account age and past injuries then it goes to Westrbook. Lee and Garland is also a wash with a slight edge to Garland, Vazquez is better than Byrd and Sowers is going to be much better than anyone the Sox throw out there next year. Take a look at what Jeremy did last season especially in the second half of the season he's pretty damn good. The Sox will be lucky to get a 5.50 ERA out of the 5th spot next year. To Summarize: Sabathia >> Buehrle Westbrook ~ Contreras (edge Westbrook) Lee ~ Garland (edge Garland) Byrd Sowers >>> Floyd/Haeger/?? Edge Indians This, my friend, is not true.

I used to have a crush on Florida Evans from "Good Times." No joke.

QUOTE(shoota @ Jan 10, 2007 -> 12:13 AM) I bumped this thread at your request to get back to you once the Ozzie-led Sox failed to make the playoffs. Your statement suggests you thought Ozzie was a good manager at the time, but would change your opinion if he floundered a playoff birth. Why do you wait until now to bump it, though? And, no, I don't believe a guy who led us to a title less than a year and a half ago is a bad manager. Is he perfect? No. Does he make mistakes? Most definitely. It just wasn't meant to be last year.

Anybody remember the Beef Wennington? That s*** was good.

QUOTE(shoota @ Jan 9, 2007 -> 10:43 PM) Now that the season is over and Ozzie failed to reach the playoffs, you can admit that he's a bad manager. What the hell? LOL. Why did you bump this thread? And, no, Ozzie is not a bad manager.

I'd settle for very good. Question for those in the know, don't Aardsma and Sisco throw 95+? I've been hearing both top out around 92-93.

I'd say it's been a pretty good year for Florida athletics.

Well, I predicted a blowout. Just picked the wrong team. A pathetic display by OSU.

Good news! Uribe is one of those guys you can't stand sometimes, but would definitely miss if he were gone.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jan 6, 2007 -> 02:43 PM) Michelle Bonner, ESPN anchor, formerly of CNN and FSN Oh, man, I would destroy that s***. Nice one, Boz!

Props to the Colts. I really thought LJ might break a record yesterday. And LMAO@the Cowboys. Sorry DBAHO. You would laugh to if that had happened to anybody else but your team.