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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 11:58 AM) And in terms of quality of the league, we can debate the styles of 90's era basketball with the current era, but I don't think we can debate that the modern league has fewer teams with legitimate title chances then ever before and far more teams on the "tanking" side in the past. Bad teams have existed for forever, but the disparity that exists now (vs. the 90's when yes the Bulls were dominant, but you had the Spurs / Rockets / Knicks / Pacers / Lakers / Pistons / Jazz / Blazers / Suns as plausible contenders (during a variety of those runs). When I see two great teams play today, even though I tend to enjoy "iso" basketball, I also love seeing great ball movement, etc, so like a lot of aspects of the current game, I do recognize the fact that I get to see some great basketball, but too many games today don't fit the bill and in my opinion are at a lower overall quality level. I think a combination of changing the draft and forcing players to stay in college at least two years is part of the answer at improving the depth of the NBA product. I completely disagree with you. the 90's was Chicago and that's it. Now if Shaq had not bolted to LA and Penny had stayed healthy then we're talking. We could've had a legit rivalry. Pat Riley tried with Mourning/Hardaway. But gmab. Utah in '98. Nobody thought they were really better. But that they had homecourt. That and only that was supposed to be the difference. If you think today's era is bad, and that's fair, the 90's were even worse.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 11:48 AM) I don't know...Cousins just got drafted for mediocrity...doesn't that lower the perceived price it would take to get Butler? I mean, Bulls obviously aren't going to be the Kings when it comes to this. I am really shook...I figured if Cousins was going anywhere it was going to be Lakers for Russell (or Clarskson), Randle, and some picks. Word is the Kings really wanted Ingram in any deal for Cousins. And the Lakers said hell no. I don't blame the Lakers. Ingram is potentially KD 2.0

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 11:22 AM) J4L I defend you all the time in this thread but you've officially killed the words GOAT and Shook. Name me a better frontcourt in the past better than Davis/Cousins? Don't give me Robinson/Duncan. Robinson was past his prime at that point and a full-blown role player by 2001. Davis and Cousins are 23 and 26. And I use shook only when it applies. It definitely applies here. The Warriors would much rather see a no-defense playing squad like Denver than this new monster.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 11:14 AM) Damn near any team could have beat that. Did Vivek watch a Hield college reel and become enamored? True. I just brought up the Wizards because it was implied they would've been willing to deal Otto Porter+++ for Cousins but didn't think it would be enough. Beal, Wall and Cousins? Cavs would've been shook. Let LeBron off the hook.

I'm listening to espn 1000. Hearing A LOT of GMs are PISSED. They had no idea it would take so little to get a top 8 player in the game. The Wizards for example could've given up Otto Porter+ that would've been better than what the Pelicans gave up.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 10:42 AM) They still have lots of holes, but clearly a strong front court and a great move for the Pelicans to make. Strong? More like GOAT. They do have holes. But what's easier? Filling in the role guys or acquiring superstars? They have two superstars that are 23 and 26.

And for all the small ball, excessive 3-point shooting haters, your wish has been granted. Try going small against the Pelicans now. I can't believe this is happening.

QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Feb 19, 2017 -> 11:30 PM) Their size and versatility skillwise would give GSW a lot of trouble. But their wing depth is god awful. Let's see if they still have a move or two left in them to make a run this year. Maybe they could get some of the vets to sign for minimum. But this is exactly the type of move you need to make to get out of NBA hell. Holiday is a borderline stud. Yeah, they need a couple shooters. We'll see what happens by the deadline. And even then they could wait until guys get bought out. Doesn't matter. Anthony Davis and DeMarcus Cousins are on the same team. WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Feb 19, 2017 -> 11:29 PM) The Kings were at significant risk of losing a 2017 top-10 protected pick to Chicago, and the trade now increases the chances they can hold on to it. Haha. figures the bulls would get f***ed in all this.

QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Feb 19, 2017 -> 11:13 PM) Yep, that's a nasty combination who can do it all. Would rival the Spurs twin tower duo for sure. D-rob was past his prime by the time he and Duncan got together. This is crazy. Warriors fans everywhere are shook. They want no part of the Pelicans in round 1.

I hope and pray the league doesn't step in Chris Paul to the Lakers style and veto this. Cousins/Davis will have opposing front-courts questioning why they're in the nba.

QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Feb 19, 2017 -> 10:52 PM) Boogie Cousins to Pelicans for an underwhelming package. NOLA came out a winner this weekend. WHAT THE f***!!!!

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Feb 19, 2017 -> 09:44 PM) It isn't entertaining anymore. It used to be that the defensive effort was lax but that the teams would play harder as the game went on if it was close. And the defensive effort while bad was never as bad as this joke of a game. The last two years have been unwatchable. It's been this way since 2014 and it's getting worse. Don't know what's happened. I guess it's just a generation thing.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 19, 2017 -> 07:58 PM) I DVRed the dunk contest. Any reason to watch or should I just delete it? It's worth watching. There were a few nice dunks. But compared to last year's lavine/gordon showdown? yeah, it's a buzzkill.

Yeah, i'm done with the all-star game. What a terrible weekend all around.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 17, 2017 -> 12:26 PM) Pump the breaks, yo. Nerlens Noel is a dinosaur in today's NBA. His kind is extinct. Embiid is awesome, but he's basically DeMarcus Cousins 2.0. Simmons would be a rookie PG this year. Challenging LeBron and Co? Not so much. No, Okafor is. Not Noel. Noel is tailor-made for today's nba under the right coaching and system. Embiid, after sitting out two years, was putting up per 36 stats that rival Wilt. Simmons is a poor man's LeBron. easy. They're top 3 with all healthy. They botched okafor/unicorn, but the point is they were in position to botch it.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 17, 2017 -> 12:06 PM) Dude, Embiid and Noel CAME OUT OF THE DRAFT INJURED. You cant say "if they didnt get injured" when they already were. I cant argue with a bunch of ifs and maybes that you are throwing at me. All i know is any sort of rebuilding decision should come from whoever replaces Gar and Pax, or at the very least Gar. ok fair enough. so are you saying they don't get noel through trade or embiid at #3 if they had been healthy i can agree with that. so leave philly out of it then because we don't know. i do know they could've had unicorn to pair with simmons. i'm sorry. give me the chance of that over butler leading us to 7th seeds. the talent pool worldwide is greater than it's ever been. we've got butler going #30 and guys like IT, Jokic and Draymond going in the 2nd round.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 17, 2017 -> 11:48 AM) Come on man, you are famous here for declaring championships already taken, nobody else has a chance. Now you are all about planning for a future without lebron and lets trade Jimmy and *hope* that the return equals and -maybe- exceeds what Butler is? There is zero guarantee that this draft pans out like people think it will. Teams that go down that road dont always end up coming back up quickly, and in many cases end up like Philly for the last 5 years, multiple top 5 picks. Nothing. And at the same time people who want Jimmy traded are asking the same guys that built this THING that we are watching to turn around and build it back up to a respectable level. Everything about trading Butler is sketchy to me No, wrong. All the guys for philly kept getting hurt. If noel, Embiid and simmons don't get hurt they're already challenging cleveland for the east title. and that's with making a terrible okafor over unicorn pick. the sixers have the right philosophy. just gotta get it right. but that said, i don't trust the bulls to get it right even if they went that route so 7th seeds it is.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Feb 17, 2017 -> 11:40 AM) Would you agree that Cristiano Felicio has the potential to be a generational talent? I would agree that you're boring and not funny. I've been around for a while now. You've got nothing for me.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Feb 17, 2017 -> 11:31 AM) Lol, no. LeBron, Durant, Leonard. Those are automatic. Then you've got Greek Freak and Paul George, Nobody outside of the biggest Bulls homer would take Butler over greek freak. only Butler/george is an argument. QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 17, 2017 -> 11:34 AM) Even if he is the 6th best, how many of the players above him do you feel have legitimate shots at winning the championship? Does Westbrook make it out of the first round? Hardens rockets havent really done much in the playoffs. Are they all trade bait because people like Lebron and Curry stand in their way? So what are you saying? Keep Butler and be content with 7th seeds? LeBron won't be around forever.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 17, 2017 -> 11:12 AM) Buckets was on 1st take. I can't say enough how much I love Jimmy Buckets. Epitome of the 90 style basketball that I hold dearly in my heart. Guy has worked his tail off and I want to see the Bulls win it all with him. I love everything about Buckets!!! Maybe these comments will help everyone understand why I am so anti-trading Jimmy. I absolutely adore him. Dude, jason, you're my guy. BUT THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. How many times do I have to say this? Butler is arguably the 6th best player AT HIS OWN POSITION. So that's ignoring guys like Harden, Westbrook, Curry, etc. You have to entertain offers for Butler or be content with winning 44 games and getting bounced in round 1 or 2.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Feb 16, 2017 -> 08:34 AM) My god.. I know Ben Simmons hasn't played yet, but I find it hilarious people are forgetting about him. If there is a kid who has a chance to be generational (cough.. J4L.. ) it's that kid. Sucks that his development got off to a slow start though. I didn't forget about im. But like you said, he hasn't played yet. That's why I didn't mention him. I hope we get at least 10-15 games from him after the break.

Off-topic. Melo replacing Love on the east squad over Bradley Beal is so shameful. Carmelo makes me want to throw up. I hate him and his wife. Beal has been the second best player on a must-see Wizards team (26-8 in their last 34). All Melo is doing is putting up numbers are a terrible Knicks team and holding back unicorn.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 15, 2017 -> 09:52 AM) There are a lot of good players, but the league as a whole sucks a lot right now. A lot of horrible teams. Many mediocre teams, only a couple of teams you could call elite, and even they are except for the Warriors, a twisted ankle from being mediocre. You're not paying attention then. The super team, pace and space era is the greatest era of basketball we've ever seen. They're plenty of good teams in the league. 20 years ago the Rockets (let alone the warriors spurs and cavs) are breaking records against the watered down, best international player in the game at that time might've been Toni Kukoc 90's era. lol. But even the bad ones, say Philly and Denver, have great upside. Really, other than the Nets, Knicks (until they trade Melo), Bulls and Kings, every other team in the league has upside. add the pelicans to the list of teams with no upside. poor anthony davis.

Jokic doesn't have a fat, past his prime, iso, ball-hog gettin' in the way. But yes, he is a stud. This is a wonderful time to be alive. Jokic? Unicorn? Greek Freak? Embiid? Oh my!!! The league has never been oh so good.