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QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Jan 7, 2017 -> 04:09 PM) I totally agree with you on the Astros. They are idiots if they do not attempt to improve their starting pitching. No organization can win strictly on home-grown talent. Even the Cubs who hit on just about every position player in their system had to buy Arrieta, Lester, Chapman, and now Davis from other teams or the FA market. The Pirates are in between a rock and a hard place though. They have a much tougher hill to climb in that division, so I could see them weighing the cost of someone like Q and whether it truly puts them over the top. I personally don't think he makes them THAT much better that he needs to be acquired - especially if the Sox asking price is as high as it appears to be.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 5, 2017 -> 07:22 PM) Kyle Korver has supposedly been traded to the Cavs. Cavs gonna have GOAT level spacing.

QUOTE (JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Jan 2, 2017 -> 03:14 PM) Ok, but over the course of their careers Rodgers has been better from a statistical standpoint and it's not that close really. I'm talking individual accomplishments, not team. And if Rodgers does this at 37, 38 and 39 we can talk. QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 2, 2017 -> 03:15 PM) Haha. Should be 6 for 6? So he should have won the two one score losses but he couldn't have lost the 4 one score victories. Rings matter but it's way different than the NBA, one player can only do so much. Peyton finally won a 2nd ring when he couldn't throw the ball past 15 yards. Please. The Tyree catch and the choke by whatever WR that was are infamous. Find me single plays in any of Brady wins to rival those two epic flukes. QUOTE (JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Jan 2, 2017 -> 03:29 PM) QB is the most important position on the field but even then they can only carry a team so far. Still need the other 21 starters to perform. Rodgers has been a victim of a poor Packers defense for most of his career. Only twice have the Packers had a defense that ranked in the top 10 in points allowed and one of those years Rodgers won a ring. By comparison, Brady has had a defense ranked in top 10 in points allowed 11 times over the course of his career. Brady has played on far better teams, it's no wonder he has more rings. Doesn't make him the better player though. By your logic Garnett > Duncan. When you're great, you win even when you have no business winning. Tom Brady is a lock to win his 5th title. Keep up with your lame hypotheticals.

And I'm sorry. You can't be the greatest at anything with only 1 sb title. MJ is not the consensus GOAT with only 1 title. No matter what the numbers say. Brady should be 6/6 in SBs and will probably win it again this year.

QUOTE (JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Jan 2, 2017 -> 02:43 PM) Let's say the two switch teams. Does Brady put up better numbers than Rodgers on the Packers and vice versa does Rodgers put up worse numbers than Brady on the Patriots? Rodgers is already the highest rated passer in NFL history by a substantial margin (and this doesn't even account for his well above average rushing abilities). Statistically speaking from an individual standpoint, he's in a league of his own. Not really. Brady has clearly been better the last two years and he's 6 years older. Rodgers is sick. Don't get me wrong. But Brady is damn near 40 doing what he's doing. I want to see Rodgers dominating like this at 37, 38, and 39.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jan 2, 2017 -> 03:10 AM) Depends on you ask. You'll have the crowd who will say Rodgers never had to cheat to get his accomplishments which is completely justifiable. I don't pay attention to those clowns. Brady is handsome, has the model wife from heaven, s***, he might even have a big package to go with it. Dude is great. GREAT. That's it.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 1, 2017 -> 10:36 PM) Rodgers is the best QB ever Yeah, that would be Brady. Dude is gonna win the mvp and he missed the first 4 games. 11-1 record, 28 tds with only 2 picks? I'm completely shook on this one.

the '93 Sox. My favorite Sox team ever. Loved Ellis Burks and, of course, Bo.

QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Dec 30, 2016 -> 06:00 PM) He's been saying this every year since like 2009. He's an old crusty fart.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 09:38 AM) Before the trades the Sox were a bottom third system despite sucking for 5 years. You're saying sucking for 3 years will give them a bunch of draft picks that will improve the system, but if that's the case then why didn't sucking for the last 5 years improve the system? top 3. it's hard to mess up with multiple top 3 picks.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 09:36 AM) The White Sox will never have the back-to-back season of massive spending like the Cubs had. 2 of the Cubs top 8 players by WAR are not homegrown, the next two after that are Hendry picks. Following their model and fetishizing losing for a half decade will bring ruin to the Sox. You're overthinking it. The Sox will be locked in and ready to go come 2019.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 09:34 AM) Agreed. Loads of high draft picks have done little to help the White Sox system the last few years. ?????????

QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 09:28 AM) I am somewhere in the middle of J4L and ss2k with this. I am interested and excited because that s*** they were doing before didn't work and this is refreshing but I am still not looking forward to the guaranteed suck fest that we will be watching the next 2-3 years. I am not drunk off of the rebuild freshness. I know I am not going to enjoy much of what I see the next few years and neither will anyone else on this board, believe me. You sound like a Cubs fan from 2013 or 2014. Ask fathom. I told wim the cubs were coming and they were coming soon.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 09:14 AM) It doesn't matter what I think. But getting excited about sucking for a really long time just doesn't hold any level of excitement for me. I already passed on Soxfest because who am I going to go see? I also passed on the kids club membership, because even free tickets aren't going to be worth it this year by the time parking and ballpark prices are paid. No interest in buying into intentional and long term suck. Oh my goodness. it's fans like you that i detest. Why are fans like you so damn scary? Yes, the white sox will suck next year and the year after that. THEY'VE SUCKED FOR 5 YEARS WHILE ATTEMPTING TO WIN. Now if Moncada and every single elite or damn near elite pitching prospect we've acquired sucks, underachieves, etc, while flopping on multiple top 3 picks we get from being so bad then i guess you're right, we'll suck for 15 years. but that's not gonna happen. not even close. wake up and be thankful to b a sox fan in 2016.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 09:09 AM) I will say buying into hype is totally right up your alley. ok genius. So what do you suggest they do? And make it good. Because I will destroy that ass.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 08:56 AM) Years of suck with no end in sight isn't really exciting for me, but hey. And 1 playoff win in 11 years does nothing for me. But hey. And when I say playoff win I mean a single playoff game. Not a series. White Sox are doing the right thing.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 10:48 PM) ? The White Sox are attempting to build something long-term that will be special/sustainable. More importantly they're getting with the damn times. There's still much work to be done. But how can you not be virgin about to lose their virginity excited right now? Moncada will be a superstar. Yes, a SUPERSTAR. WHAT.A.TIME.

QUOTE (peavy44 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 10:11 PM) I still don't believe the hype I'll respect Q's request and not use the R word anymore. But wtf are you thinkin'? lol. Now if you're shook, I understand. I know what it's like to be shook. Otherwise, you're not making any sense.

QUOTE (peavy44 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 10:03 PM) I don't believe in cubbie hype like you do. 97 wins NLCS appearance in '15. 103 wins WS champions in '16. Best roster, manager and FO in baseball going into next year (oh yeah, they sell-out their park no matter what aka can spend when they have to) and you still don't believe? Whatever. -

QUOTE (peavy44 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 09:57 PM) idk about that s*** happens in baseball. Which part? The Cubs being in the mix for the next 5 years or the Sox taking off in '19?

QUOTE (peavy44 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 09:52 PM) cubs won't be the mets or red sox or Indians next year I didn't say they would. That's not the point. The Cubs will be in the mix for the next 5 years at least. That's what the Sox are trying to do.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 09:42 PM) Good grief, what is with people and their obsession with instant self gratification? No team trades it's ace pitcher and best hitter in an effort to compete the following season. Just because Q hasn't been traded yet does not mean he won't and there are more than enough rumors circulating to show the Sox are indeed engaged with teams about Q. Relax and try to hold your load for just a few moments longer before you spew. And if they make a trade and the people b****ing feel like they didn't get enough, well, I think you already know. It's a great time to be alive if you're a Sox fan. Let the Cubs do their thing next year and in '18. Come '19? Good lord it is so on.

QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 08:56 PM) This instant news world we all live in has really ruined a lot about being a fan. I've been as critical of the Sox (and Bulls,nother story) as anybody. If the Eaton deal didn't prove to people that they're serious about tearing this thing down WTF will? If it ain't right, don't do it. Q is arguably the top asset on the market, short-term and long-term. If it ain't right, you wait. Wait and wait until it is right.

QUOTE (peavy44 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 08:34 PM) I'm starting to wonder if this is rebuild or not or they just wanna trade the adam laroche whiny babies. gmab, dude.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 01:56 PM) You spent the last 10 years trying to get back on to Soxtalk after getting banned originally. That's right, 10 years. You are here for a week, and are already calling people retards, and talking about people who have no life. Apparently you didn't figure out how to stay on Soxtalk during those 10 years. Please tell me that's not Brandofan? lol.