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QUOTE(The Bones @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 06:52 PM) Okay, I'm looking for suggestions on what hip hop albums I should check out. I am a huge Beastie Boys fan, especially Paul's Boutique & Check Your Head, and already have all their albums. I have Public Enemy's Nation of Millions & Fear of a Black Planet. I also like Outkast's Speakerboxxx/The Love Below & Stankonia. So, as you can tell I am more a fan of hip hop than gangsta rap. Any ideas on what albums I might like, maybe some Run DMC? I was also thinking about getting Kanye's album, is that any good? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Here are my recommendations, through 1995. If an album is in my Top 25, it will be marked in bold. 1983-1987 RUN DMC- RUN DMC RUN DMC- King Of Rock RUN DMC- Raising Hell Eric B & Rakim- Paid In Full T LA Rock- The Lyrical King Boogie Down Productions- Criminal Minded EPMD- Strictly Business Public Enemy- Yo! Bum Rush The Show MC Shan- Down By Law 1988-1989 Krown Rulers- Paper Chase Gangstarr- No More Mr. Nice Guy Biz Markie- Goin' Off Special Ed- Youngest In Charge Eric B & Rakim- Follow The Leader Public Enemy- It Takes A Nation Of Millions... JVC Force- Doin' Damage De La Soul- 3 Feet High And Rising Kool G Rap- Road To The Riches Big Daddy Kane- Long Live The Kane EPMD- Unfinished Business Jaz- Word To The Jaz Ultramagnetic MCs- Critical Beatdown Boogie Down Productions- By All Means Necessary Boogie Down Productions- Ghetto Music: The Blueprint Slick Rick- The Great Adventures Lord Finesse- The Funky Technician Bizzie Boys- Droppin It Lakim Shabazz- Pure Righteousness MC Shan- Born To Be Wild ATCQ- People's Instinctive Travels Low Profile- We're In This Together 1990-1992 Organized Konfusion- Organized Konfusion Gangstarr- Step In The Arena Gangstarr- Daily Operation Main Source- Breakin Atoms Public Enemy- Fear Of A Black Planet De La Soul- De La Is Dead KMD- Mr. Hood ATCQ- Low End Theory Brand Nubian- In God We Trust Ultramagnetic MCs- Funk Your Head Up Downtown Science- Downtown Science Boogie Down Productions- Edutainment Boogie Down Productions- Sex And Violence Master Ace- Take A Look Around Craig G- Now That's More Like It K-Solo- Tell The World My Name Diamond D- Stunts, Blunts & Hip Hop Slick Rick- The Ruler's Back Jaz- Ya Don't Stop Lord Finesse- Return Of The Funky Man EPMD- Business As Usual EPMD- Business Never Personal Eric B & Rakim- Let The Rhythm Hit Em Eric B & Rakim- Don't Sweat The Technique Special Ed- Legal Hijack- The Horns Of Jericho Freestyle Fellowship- To Whom It May Concern Funkytown Pros- Reachin A Level Of Assassination Del The Funky Homosapien- I Wish My Brother George Was Here Common Sense- Can I Borrow A Dollar? 1993-1995 Leaders Of The New School- T.I.M.E. ATCQ- Midnight Marauders KRS ONE- Return Of The Boom Bap Jeru The Damaja- The Sun Rises In The East Gangstarr- Hard To Earn Channel Live- Station Identification Master Ace- Slaughterhouse Organized Konfusion- Stress: The Extinction Agenda Roots- Do You Want More??? O.C.- Word...Life Artifacts- Between A Rock And A Hard Place De La Soul- Buhloone Mindstate Pharcyde- Bizarre Ride To The Pharcyde Pharcyde- Labcabincalifornia Freestyle Fellowship- Innercity Griots Aceyalone- All Balls Don't Bounce Del The Funky Homosapien- No Need For Alarm Casual- Fear Itself Souls Of Mischief- 93 Til Infinity Common Sense- Resurrection Large Professor- The Science Cenobites- Cenobites

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 01:11 PM) OG was probably my all time favorite rap CD. Mind over Matter has got to be one of the best written raps ever. I actually have the Promo Instrumental 2LP set for that album. Only 1000 copies were pressed (for DJs and what not). It's some of the best production that I've ever heard, to this day. DJ Alladin was excellent in the late 80s/early 90s, but then he disappeared.

Happy Birthday, dude!

QUOTE(The Critic @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 07:08 AM) Public Enemy - Fear Of A Black Planet - another of my favorites, does anyone know if they have any "greatest hits" CDs available? That might be my favorite hip hop album, period. Unless I'm missing something, they have yet to release a Greatest Hits disc. They have one titled Greatest Misses, which is remixes, b-sides, and previously unreleased stuff. It came out back in 1992 IIRC. I would definitely recommend their first two: Can't Stop The Bum Rush 1986 It Takes A Nation Of Millions... 1988

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 02:40 AM) LOL...I can try. First of all, from what I can tell, you cup the ball, but you atleast cup it properly...I see people who cup it with either no fingers in the ball, or their thumb in the ball...and since the thumb has nothing to do with how much a ball hooks or spins, it is pointless. So, in a sense, you are doing the lesser of two evils. The second part of that really starts to pertain when you really start to get into bowling and you start to understand things a little more...staying behind the ball means exactly that, you stay behind the ball(say, for instance, that the bowling ball at the exact second prior to release is a clock...if you are at 6 or 5 o'clock, you are in a good position for lots of lift and turn/hook/spin on the ball. When you come out incorrectly, your hand would be like right in the middle of the clock, or at 3 o'clock...if you are left handed, the first times are 6 and 7, middle remains the same, and the last is 9). Finding out that you cup the ball tells me a lot actually...mainly that it would be hard for you to not turn the ball correctly...but in cupping it, you do lose a lot of accuracy. If you really want to get into it, you can probably buy a used reactive ball of some type at around 14-16 pounds, and have it drilled to be a fingertip grip(which, like I said, you want to get serious, I would suggest). This would eventually start to make a little more sense. There is a lot of physics that goes into bowling...and I'm not sure I quite understand all of it . The basics of it are that there is a weight block in the middle of the bowling ball, and usually, at some point down the lane, that weight block turns over, which causes the hook...or something like that...lol. If you throw the ball sideways(in that it would be spinning on its axis), the weight block will not turn over, and the only hook you will get is of the ball just spinning a little bit. I would guess that does not happen to you. There is also forward roll, where the ball is rolling forward, perhaps with a little to the left/right(if you are right/left handed, respectively)...odds are good it will turn over then, causing some type of hook on the ball. You can also get side roll on the ball, which causes the ball to turn a ton, and it will hook a ton then too...I would guess that's more where you are. I am somewhere in between there when I am bowling well(such as today). I have in-between forward and side roll, along with a little velocity, and when I have any type of accuracy at all, I kill the pins. It may be a little bit to comprehend...but you may get it...I am not sure. Also...now that I have thought about it, bowling is actually a power game, but not in the sense a lot would view it in. The main source of power behind a bowling ball is not the velocity behind the ball, but rather the revs you get on the ball(which has a lot to do with the turn you get on the ball...the more turn, the more revs, the more pin action you will have, the less bad breaks you will encounter). If you wanna see a guy with huge revolutions on his ball, try and see if you can watch Robert Smith, who is a pro bowler, bowl sometime...he gets some crank on his ball. Anyways...if you need me to dumb-en it up anymore, I can sure try...otherwise, I'm just here to help. Thanks, bro. I think I understand. I'll also try to catch some Robert Smith action. Bowling on television = excellent.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Mar 6, 2005 -> 11:32 PM) Also, one of the key things when it comes to spinning or hooking the ball(you will also hear it referred to as turning it) is to stay behind the ball. You want to lift the ball, and get it rolling forward, and to try and get it to not roll sideways. You will get much more power behind your shot lifting it. I just recently read an article in a magazine and read through it, and I got probably the biggest tip I have gotten in quite some time. I was coming around the ball, and not lifting it, and that was causing a lack of hook on the ball, and due to that, I was bowling very inconsistently. That tip was probably the main reason I have been as hot as I have been recently If possible, I'm gonna need you to break this down into major dumbass terms for me. Because I am just that when it comes to bowling, among other things. What I do is cradle the ball with my middle finger and my index finger in the top holes, and my thumb hanging out (because I can't spin the ball unless my thumb is out). As I lay the ball down, I kinda flick my wrist to the left (so underhand to overhand). The degree of wrist flickage determines whether you get a slight spin, or a major spin. I'm kinda in-between. Should I be dropping the ball instead of laying it down? I'm not sure what you mean by staying behind the ball, coming around the ball, etc. When you say "try and get it to not roll sideways", that sounds like what I do precisely -- rolling it sideways, that is.

QUOTE(soxman35 @ Mar 6, 2005 -> 02:59 AM) man f*** the bulls go Illinois the only reason the bulls are evan doing ok in the NBA is becuase the NBA sucks and does not have anyone great in the league so f*** the Bulls and f*** the NBA and wow the bulls really do suck they just lost to the worst team in the league the BUCKS WOW thats what u call sad GO ILLINOIS and GO SOX Pure comedy. Keep up the good work, dude. You are the frontrunner for Soxtalk Rookie Of The Year as far as I can tell.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Nov 17, 2004 -> 06:14 AM) I know we have some bowlers on here...can't remember who exactly off the top of my head, but I know we do...so some can relate to this. Anyways, I just thought let everyone know that I rolled my first 300 game tonight. It was pretty amazing, and when I got that 12th strike, it was just an insane feeling. Felt unreal...and is just now starting to sink in. Coolest thing about it is that I beat my dad to getting the first 300 in the family. He's been bowling for like 35 years or so, and has never gotten a 300...his highest game is a 290...and me getting the first one just feels so cool. Hopefully he can get one now too. Anyways...anyone else got any cool bowling stories they have to tell? That is absolutely amazing. I just learned how to do the spin last year, and now, I'm always good for at least one turkey per game. But I still have average aim at best when it comes to knocking down individual pins. That's my downfall. My highest score was like 225. I used to bowl head-on with authority, so I'd be happy when I'd bowl like 175. But ever since I got the spin down, I consider 175 to be a bad game. I need to incorporate a little more speed into my game, whereas before, I was like the bowling alley flounder. Pins flying into the next lane and what not. It's a finesse game, and that was lost on me for damn near 15 years.

Happy Birthday, fellas

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 6, 2005 -> 09:46 PM) Their offense would be no match for my all Roid team Haha, yeah. That's cheating (pun intended).

QUOTE(YASNY @ Mar 6, 2005 -> 08:43 PM) I'll still take my all "end in Z" team. Anyone named Rodriguez, Hernandez, Fernandez, Perez, Ordonez, etc. I think that the Polish dudes and the "End In Z" team would both have terrific offensive potential, but it ultimately comes down to pitching. I can't think of very many good pitchers whose names end in Z. There's Pedro Martinez, Willie Hernandez, John Smoltz, Livan Hernandez, etc. I'm sure that I'm forgetting somebody, but the only two Hall Of Famers are Pedro and John, and the latter is questionable. I could match up with Phil and Carl. And you gotta admit, Maz, Yaz, Stan The Man, Big Al Simmons, and Kluszewski in order would wreck shop. You could come very close to matching that, however.

QUOTE(TheBigHurt35 @ Mar 6, 2005 -> 08:48 PM) And speaking of the "King of Hip Hop," we would be remiss if we didn't mention Dre. Everything that he touches turns to gold (and usually platinum as well). I could never listen to gangster rap, though. Maybe when I was like 10 years old. It's hard to buy into such a lowlife culture. I can listen to plenty of songs that I can't personally relate to, however. Take this track from Organized Konfusion, titled "Stray Bullet". I listen to MCs (gift of gab, flow, production being a given) who chastise and mock that whole gangster mindstate, not those who advertise it. I could never, ever, ever listen to MCs from the Dre camp (NWA to today), nor could I ever listen to anything that 50 Cent is trying to say. I can't relate, plain and simple. Personal taste? I guess. That's kind of an easy cop-out. Ya gotta step back and analyze just what in the f*** you're listening to. Otherwise, you're gonna be like 40, and you're gonna wonder what in the hell you were thinking back when you were in your mid-to-late teens/early twenties. Meanwhile, I'll be like 50 with De La Soul blasting in the background.

QUOTE(TheBigHurt35 @ Mar 6, 2005 -> 08:34 PM) OK, this definitely merits consideration. The others, however, aren't nearly as strong. To tell you the truth, I would probably rate their first album as the least impressive of the four. But all of the b-sides and remixes that accompanied their first album? Terrific. That's what makes De La Soul the kings of hip hop. They have 4 classic albums, and you could put together damn near two more albums worth of killer b-sides, remixes, and EP tracks.

QUOTE(TheBigHurt35 @ Mar 6, 2005 -> 08:33 PM) Well, thanks for finally giving me credit. :rolly The KMD album was the one with "Peach Fuzz," correct? Didn't like it. I may give it another listen if I can find it for $3 used somewhere. The second 3rd Bass album, which came out right around the same time, was also a disappointment. Right, Peach Fuzz. That song is weak. I got the 12" single for the instrumental, though. But all things considered, that album is great. The production, the lyrics, etc. Subroc is decent, but Zev Luv X is a classic (extended) Golden Age MC.

QUOTE(TheBigHurt35 @ Mar 6, 2005 -> 08:29 PM) Bulls***. I've been listing to hip hop since the mid-'80s. KMD?! LOL! That album sucked. I sold it a few weeks after purchasing it. Big Daddy Kane's album was decent, but not great. I've never heard all of Master Ace's album. I could also ammend my previous list with the following... The Cactus Album - 3rd Bass Paul's Boutique - Beasties King of Rock - Run-DMC Midnight Mauraders - Tribe Well, you know more than I thought you did, but you might wanna give that KMD album another try. Not even "The Humrush" did it for you, eh?

And what kind of hip hop fan could sleep on these absolute classics? De La Soul- Three Feet High And Rising 1989 LP De La Soul- De La Soul Is Dead 1991 LP De La Soul- Buhloone Mindstate 1993 LP De La Soul- Stakes Is High 1996 LP We're talking about the hip hop version of the Beatles, and they get no mention in your list, BigHurt35. What happened?

QUOTE(TheBigHurt35 @ Mar 6, 2005 -> 08:08 PM) Sorry, but I don't consider the work of Big Daddy Kane, Master Ace, or KMD to be anything close to the "best rap album." Yeah, but that's because you ain't heard anything. Everyone who knows anything about hip hop has these down as classics: Big Daddy Kane- Long Live The Kane 1988 LP Master Ace- Slaughterhouse 1993 LP KMD- Mr. Hood 1991 LP They definitely get consideration.

QUOTE(False Alarm @ Mar 6, 2005 -> 07:56 PM) shagar states in his first post that he hasn't listened to hip hop for long, and i think it's clear that several of the other posters are a few years younger than us and more casual music fans than you. not sure you gotta be like that about it. i do feel a lot of your list, though it reminds me that i need to brush up on a lot of older stuff. I hear you, but it's depressing. There's so much truly outstanding hip hop out there, and people just settle for the crap that falls into their laps. Anything worthwhile is not gonna find you...you have to go out and search for it. It's just a reminder of how everyone wants it their way, right away, the Burger King way. Cubs fans, basically.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Mar 6, 2005 -> 07:27 PM) No, I'm not Polish....I'm Serbian. That's cool. I was just being facetious.

QUOTE(TheBigHurt35 @ Mar 6, 2005 -> 06:47 PM) You've got a lot of catching up to do... It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back - Public Enemy Straight Outta Compton - N.W.A. Paid In Full - Eric B and Rakim B.A.D. - LL Cool J Unfinished Business - EPMD AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted - Ice Cube The Chronic - Dr. Dre The Low End Theory - A Tribe Called Quest Ready To Die - Biggie Illmatic - Nas ATLiens - OutKast The Marshall Mathers LP - Eminem Haha, is that supposed to be some kind of definitive list? You have just as much catching up to do, buddy. I see no RUN DMC, Krown Rulers, Bizzie Boys, JVC Force, T LA Rock, K-Solo, Hijack, Biz Markie, Big Daddy Kane, Master Ace, Craig G, Kool G Rap, MC Shan, Jaz, Gangstarr, Main Source, Special Ed, Organized Konfusion, O.C., Ultramagnetic MCs, De La Soul, Boogie Down Productions, Brand Nubian, KMD, Downtown Science, Funkytown Pros, Diamond D, Freestyle Fellowship, Aceyalone, Pharcyde, Hieroglyphics Crew, etc. And really, that's not even the tip of the iceberg considering all of the classic 12" singles out there with essential remixes and b-sides. Knowing about EPMD is a shocker, though. Excuse me while I laugh my ass of at all of the hip hop talk on here. The lack of knowledge and respectable taste is frightening.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Mar 6, 2005 -> 04:39 PM) Yeah no ones ever lost to the Bucks. Apparently, Cleveland, Detroit, Indiana, Houston, Orlando, Boston, and Seattle are all f***ed too? Haha, yeah. The Bulls had it won, but they choked and allowed Milwaukee to score 13 unanswered points in the 4th quarter. What are you gonna do? s*** happens. And besides, you can never, ever complain when your 7 man rotation includes 4 rookies and 3 guys who are barely old enough to drink. That's why I always laugh my ass off whenever people think the sky is falling. Get a clue.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Mar 6, 2005 -> 03:31 PM) Some of those guys seem reallu un-Polish to me... Are you Polish? 90% of those guys are in the Polish-American Hall Of Fame. The ones that aren't have obvious Polish names like Pierzynski, Koskie, Mientkiewicz, etc.

QUOTE(The Critic @ Mar 6, 2005 -> 02:32 AM) Absolutely NO WAY Luzinski rides pine while Knoblauch plays ahead of him if it's my team. And was Dybzinski Polish, by the way? Yes, Dybzinski was Polish. I forgot all about him. People forget how good Chuck Knoblauch was in his prime. 1994: 35 SB, .312 AVG, .381 OBP 1995: 46 SB, .333 AVG, .424 OBP 1996: 35 SB, .341 AVG, .448 OBP I'll take that out of the #9 hole any day of the week, mang. The lineup already has plenty of sluggers.

I'll take the All Time Polish-American team, thank you very much. Starters: 1. Alan Trammell SS (6-Time All Star) 2. Bill Mazeroski 2B (Hall Of Famer) 3. Carl Yastremzki OF (Hall Of Famer) 4. Stan Musial OF (Hall Of Famer) 5. Al "Simmons" Szymanski OF (Hall Of Famer) 6. Ted Kluszewski 1B (4-Time All Star) 7. Moose Skowron 3B (6-Time All Star) 8. A.J. Pierzynski C (1-Time All Star) 9. Chuck Knoblauch DH (4-Time All Star) Bench: Greg Luzinski OF/DH (4-Time All Star) Tom Paciorek OF/1B (1-Time All Star) Corey Koskie 3B Doug Mientkiewicz 1B Pitching Staff: Stan Coveleski (Hall Of Famer) Phil Niekro (Hall Of Famer) Frank Tanana (3-Time All Star) Ed Lopatynski (1-Time All Star) Steve Gromek (1-Time All Star) Joe Niekro (1-Time All Star) Team Chemistry = Through The Roof

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Mar 5, 2005 -> 08:56 PM) I think we should have another "Post your playlist" thread so we can see what cool and good music people listen to here at Soxtalk. Bad idea, IMO.