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QUOTE(bmags @ Nov 18, 2006 -> 04:28 PM) i don't think i have to point out that there is a difference between being a spokesperson and selling your songs. Plus considering when independent artists decline their use of songs, the companies just hire people to do songs just like it, so they take the money now anyways. A lot of songs are used illegally as well. Generally a small band can't afford to do anything about it. I know The O.C. used a Kings of Convenience song without permission. They were extremely pissed off about it but couldn't do a damn thing. That said, I think it's a different case with commercials, as they are going to be played over and over. I don't have much of a problem with it, though it did suck hearing Sam Beam's voice over an M&M's commercial. But I do agree that rap artists "whore" themselves out. I don't think we'll be seeing Will Sheff hosting a reality TV show any time soon. And bmags, I wanted to ask, have you heard the Julie Doiron-Okkervil River split? QUOTE(False Alarm @ Nov 18, 2006 -> 02:43 PM) i've heard mojave 3 in hummer commercials and lift your skinny fists like antennas to heaven! in a dockers commercial, IIRC. mogwai in jeans commercials. every time i hear the who now i think of a product or TV show. plenty of other examples. it ain't just hip hop. and at least common wrote a jingle, essentially, for it, rather than using one of his actual songs. if he sells "watermelon" to jolly ranchers or some s*** i might just off myself. I'm pretty sure you mean Godspeed You! Black Emperor. Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven is an LP name under GY!BE

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Nov 18, 2006 -> 06:17 PM) then don't go to school. Don't you think ID checks are in fact a protection measure to keep you safe? This isnt like wire-taps where the individual is unaware they're being kept track of. The student either was looking for a fight , in which he was definitely a threat, or he took offense because he's sensitive about his ethnicity, which he has a right to be. As I said, if he was offended at their tactics, he should have taken the cops ID number and then filed a report along with anyone else who was there to witness and do twice as much damage by getting the guy fired. That's not what happened and now I have a hard time feeling sorry for this kid. I am in favor of keeping the police in check, I'm not in favor of douche bag college students "making a point" through VIOLENT disobedience. Unless I go into campus residency, my ID is never checked. Word is somebody asked for badge ID's, and an officer threatened to taze him. Ideally, he should have been tazed once. If he was cuffed and wouldn't get up after that, the REAL police should have been called.

QUOTE(3 BeWareTheNewSox 5 @ Nov 19, 2006 -> 12:35 AM) Yes Are you doing it on the web? Otherwise Excel is probably the choice of program.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 18, 2006 -> 03:06 PM) Im almost positive Garcia pitched around 14 innings in the WBC. That reason is garbage. Not really. If the pressure was high and Garcia put out 100%, then it can be a big deal. If you've ever been a regular pitcher in your life, it's pretty well known that the off-season rest/spring training isn't for tossing high pressure games and putting max strain on your arm. All it takes is one pitch to blow out an arm. An arm not rested and not mechanically tuned is not a good situation for a pitcher to be in. The WBC is probably FULL of pitchers in that situation...as there's a good reason A LOT of pitchers who threw in the WBC had injury problems during the MLB season.

A poll? Or are these letters and numbers appearing randomly and you want to count how many times they appear?

Outta the closets and into the streets.

I'm not really into the horror genre, but most of these look pretty good. None look like the typical cliche you might see the teenage girls go to. http://www.horrorfestonline.com/ It plays this weekend only, so here's a list of theatres: http://www.horrorfestonline.com/theaters.html

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 17, 2006 -> 09:50 AM) Premium Blend. I thought that was just the opening sequence? Or to they put the DJ on the side during the show?

QUOTE(The Critic @ Nov 16, 2006 -> 07:42 PM) so I'm channel-flipping, and I catch this......THING.....on the U. It's the first episode of something called Comics Unleashed. At first, it seems like that same old kind of comic feature show, like the ones they run on Comedy Central on Friday nights. You know the type - they have a DJ scratching in the background, some unknown guy hosting, that overexcited Arsenio Hall Show audience. UNTIL..... It turns out to be a panel interview show, and the unknown guy starts introducing his guests - any "street cred" this show might possibly have VANISHES immediately. First out is.....David Brenner! Next......Carol Leifer!! Then....George Wallace!!! And finally.....Dane Cook!!!! I think the funniest thing about this show is going to be the panel, and I don't mean their acts!!! Don't think I've seen that on Comedy Central yet.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 17, 2006 -> 09:37 AM) It's really no different from any other major fan site, especially during hot stove season. Probably. I'm just saying it brings some sort of absurd and ridiculous comic value to my heart. I enjoy it a great deal, but at the same time, it's totally out of this world.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 17, 2006 -> 09:34 AM) Jim Thome's name was bantered about around Thanksgiving of last year. Sometimes rumors like these do have legs. This is true. But the percentages around here aren't good. This place goes MAD sometimes...just look at the boards now.

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 17, 2006 -> 09:30 AM) The interesting thing is that we've really heard no recent rumors about who we're looking for to fill the LF position. BTW, Roberts is asking for 3/15. Based on KW's history rumors are worthless. Based on that, I reply in these threads for pure entertainment.

QUOTE(Capn12 @ Nov 17, 2006 -> 06:29 AM) If I'm presented with the opportunity to move Garcia for Santana, then I have to SERIOUSLY hold back my giddyness if I'm KW....I would be all ears at that idea, unless they started kicking around the wrong names to go with Garcia... If the Sox got E. Santana, I'd trade McCarthy to TB in less than a heart beat or a blink.

QUOTE(Iwritecode @ Nov 16, 2006 -> 10:05 PM) No. I'm just saying there are stupid people all over the country waiting in line for days on end to get a machine that isn't even 100% glitch free. The morons paying $1500+ on Ebay are even worse. I'll wait a year or so to let them work all the glitches out and drop the price. This is the facts of life. Are you running a PC? You probably have bugs, glitches and s*** all throughout your Windows. I wouldn't go as far as to call people morons -- and as someone already said, if they are software problems then there is really no big issue. Hardware, however, is another story.

I think the Neal Cotts trade shows more than enough evidence that none of us have any idea what he [KW] is thinking and what he wants to do.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Nov 15, 2006 -> 05:38 PM) That would be me Would have looking at them full size make a difference? What tipped everyone off? And why autodesk ? Oh yea. And there are small things that tip the CGI off. For instance, in the BMW picture, the lisence plate looks like it was just pasted on in photoshop. In the coffe cup picture (what I thought was the easiest one), the coffee looks great, but the cup looks as computer generated as they come. I got the diamond one wrong, and I still can't find a tip off. The whisks just look a little too "clean". For the monkies, the arm that is in the air, it looks like the artist got just a tad lazy. The lighting isn't great and the grain looks like it needs some work.

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Nov 15, 2006 -> 09:52 PM) o...m....g..... I just cracked my screen. #$%$#^#$^#$^#$^#$%$#%#$!@#!@%@#$^#$^ I told you not to buy an iPod.

QUOTE(bmags @ Nov 15, 2006 -> 10:22 AM) i didn't find 'the presidents dead' political at all. I think Sheff honestly one ups sufjan in rhyme schemes, he rhymes internally as well as end rhyme, and some times interchanges them during the song and its quite awesome. I think Top ten songwriters at the moment, and i'm gonna leave out dylan and tom waits just because its obvious and this could be fun, and we all love lists at soxtalk, i'm gonna go: 1. Will Oldham/Bonnie 'Prince' Billy 2. Jeff Tweedy 3. M. Ward 4 Isaac Brock 5. Will Sheff 6. Sufjan Stevens 7. Stuart Murdoch 8. Dan Bejar 9. Mark Kozelek 10. David Berman *honorable mentions* Pollard, Morrissey, Merritt, sam beam i guess. Joanna Newsome and Chan. I'm not sure how you'd rate Morrissey as only an honorable mention. Also, an easy one that you didn't mention at all: Nick Cave. How about Lou Reed? Andrew Bird? Ani DiFranco? Jarvis Cocker?

QUOTE(Texsox @ Nov 15, 2006 -> 08:15 AM) 3/10, I really sucked at it. It was tough. CGI has come a long way. There are only very slight details that give it away.

I got 7/10. I was stunned to see that one particular one was CGI.

QUOTE(bmags @ Nov 15, 2006 -> 12:39 AM) as far as okkervil river...have you heard "death of a president", the hypothetical death of a leader i liken to whitmans oh captain, wonderfully done and beautifully rhymed. I don't think sheff only relies on love in his writing, i think storytelling is just as big a part, which is why i think he picked scott walker's black sheep boy to create an album out of. and okk. river was an opening set at metro. I saw them at the blue note in Col. MO, and for one at that decemberists concert, i thought the horn/slide guitarist/keyboarder with the red hat was hilarious. But they were funny and open and can rock and build up their songs and tear them down and build them up again in a disastrous via chicago type way and its beautiful. Per dylan, an interesting question, i think i'll take on his 60's-70's pop hits, they were current and topical, and i think relaying your view on a current time is inherently personal, as the way you are feeling is projective to the song. I can think of no other explanation as to why he so exagerrated the gangster in 'Joey'. oh, rereading i see that i'm agreeing with you, anyway. I guess at this point, i guess i have to concede that there is a certain shallowness to my opinion. Not shallow due to lack of familiarity, but perhaps shallow in that i might not be listening to what it is, i might have listened to what i wanted it to be. And perhaps when i didn't get my way, i certainly didn't shelve it, I ranked it my #1 last year, but as this year went on, with so much new things to listen to and analyze, i'm thinking when i listened again, i was listening but not hearing, and gave it a 'nice to listen to, not to be consumed by'. And if sufjan has a gift, it is that his string arrangements can say more than any lyric he can create, if you allow yourself to be hear it. That said, i think he has too much talent to stay complacent in his mich/ill style. Well, either way, both Okkervil River/Will Sheff and Sufjan Stevens are amazing talents. I may be partial to Stevens (I know he's an "educated" writer, and sometimes I see that and I think it gives him a heads up over Sheff), but Sheff isn't exactly a bad writer. I like a lot of his writing, but sometimes I think it's a bit too self-loathing. The key for Okkervil River's long term status is I think in their next album. Black Sheep Boy put them on the map, but I don't think it holds the weight of an IlliNOISE or even The Great Lakes State. That said, I think Stevens has more to lose in his next album. His name has exploded, he has a chance to be a big name like Radiohead, but if he f***s up, well... As far as The President's Dead, it's a pretty good song. The lyrics are a step outside the norm for Sheff, which is a good thing, but I felt that it was kind of awkward. My view may be different in a year or so, but as it stands now, I'm not ready for Sheff to take the plunge from inside the heart to political grind. But in any regard, I thought the Overboard & Down EP was disappointing. But as you said, you can't really go wrong with either Will Sheff or Sufjan Stevens. I'd like to see some sort of uber blend between Sheff, Stevens and Oldham. I think there's a perfect blend of folk in there. And all three are pretty good writers. Oldham's I See A Darkness is one of my favorite albums of all time -- and Cash's cover of I See A Darkness on American III can make you burst into tears.

If this is true, there must be more to Robert Andino then we know. I'd also expect it's not a straight up trade.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 14, 2006 -> 11:44 PM) Now with MGS4 though likely coming to the 360, there really aren't many killer software aps for the PS3 to validate buying the system. Heck, it's lost the exclusitivity on the GTA, Assasin's Creed, Guitar Hero, Dragon Warrior and now possibly MGS franchises within a matter of months. That's bad news. Can you find me some confirmation that MGS will be on the X-Box? I've never heard that.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 14, 2006 -> 11:07 PM) Sony is in trouble. -IGN They made most of their money in Japan. If they continue to put up sales numbers like that, all of its 3rd party support is going to go out the window. Oh, and there are already tons of reports of hardware trouble with the PS3 Japan shipment. Well, that makes my decision easy. There aren't many games out for the PS3. Of the games that are out now, I don't want any of them. Therefore I am not going to buy one until a game comes out that I want. Those include MGS4 and FF11.

QUOTE(bmags @ Nov 14, 2006 -> 10:23 PM) I never said his writing isn't personal, I said his writing has become impersonal. And per the solo album part, i'm not sure what that means, his traveling band right now isn't really set in stone. But for instance, per seven swan's "to be alone with you": I'd swim across lake Michigan I'd sell my shoes I'd give my body to be back again In the rest of the room To be alone with you To be alone with you To be alone with you To be alone with you and per my fav. song off seven swan's 'good man is hard to find: I once was better. I put off all my grief. I put off all my grief. And so I go to hell, I wait for it, but someone's left me creased. now, not that you have to be first person to be personal in songwriting, i think we all know it can be in first person and be just as impersonal, but i especially liked his almost guilt in how he can't help but give up everything for this girl in to be alone with you, and his recognition of imperfection in seven swans. Now in michigan i felt it was a transition, i felt flint was a very personal song in his identification of loneliness in the working class, but then you get 'the upper peninsula: I live in a trailer home With a snow mobile, my car The window is broken out And the interstate is far I drove all night To find my child In strange ideas He's been revived and then illinoise lyrics: Sangamon River it overflowed It caused a mudslide on the banks of the operator civil war skeletons in their graves, They came up clapping in the spirit of the aviator The sound of the engines and the smell of the grain, We go riding on the abolition grain train Steven A. Douglas was a great debater, But Abraham Lincoln was the great emancipator ; I'm not afraid of Nichol's Park I ride the train and I ride it after dark I'm not afraid to get it right I turn around and I give it one more try I said things that I meant to say The bandstand chairs and the Dewey Day parade; not to say that there aren't writing gems on illinoise, despite not being my fav. of songs, man of metropolis has the best rhyme scheme he's probably had, and gacy is a haunting perspective done in the best way. ANd to my main point, its that he has no other styles he shows anymore, and after 4 albums i've heard i can make the judgement that he's stuck in a rut right now. He may not have had the national following he has now, but michigan was hardly a blip in the radar, that whole 'danielson famille' and sufjan we're doing their own thing and it culminated in both of them finding their most interesting string arrangements within a year apart of eachother. So in closing, agree to disagree, I'll take my will sheff, you can take your sufjan, in the end we are both getting better music than the majority of people, f*** subjectivity. but a word from will sheff: And I think I believe that, if stones could dream, they'd dream of being laid side-by-side, piece-by-piece, and turned into a castle for some towering queen they're unable to know. And when that queen's daughter came of age, I think she'sd be lovely and stubborn and brave, and suitors would journey from kingdoms away to make themselves known. And I think that I know the bitter dismay of a lover who brought fresh bouquets every day when she turned him away to remember some knave who once gave just one rose, one day, year's agooooo... I love Okkervil River, I love Will Sheff, but there is an overexposure of emotion. The difference between Sheff and Stevens is that Sheff hasn't done anything but the totally "in your face this is how I f***ing feel goddamnit!" perspective. At times, it's downright emo. Stevens, on the other hand, has shown much of a personal side, just as well as stepping back and writing humorous songs and historical songs. Or, in other words, songs that are just there to entertain. I've always liked that about Stevens. And when I saw him live a few years back at Schubas, the feeling I got from Sufjan was: "I love music and I'm just here to have fun." When I saw Okkervil River at the Metro, I kind of got the opposite feeling. I mean, Bob Dylan isn't known for being a "personal" writer, is he? I think LOVE is overplayed, and that there are many more emotions out there that a lot of people won't bother to notice. Though Dylan may not be known as a "personal" writer because he didn't write about himself, many of his political songs are pretty damn personal. Am I wrong?