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Okay, Tony Kornheiser. Ha.

That's an interesting addition. You add your speed, top of the order, Ozzie type guy in place of Crede at third and then have an option for another bat in the outfield. Interesting.

From the Donnie Darko soundtrack, Mad World.

Did you guys really expect much more than that in return? Brian Anderson shouldn't be traded, not because he's the next great thing, but because as people mentioned his value is at its lowest.

In my opinion, the bias in this one is coming only from the side of you White Sox fans. This will most likely be my last post on the subject, but a few things need to be said. - 20 million per year won't be payed to him per year to pitch, so that's false. - While 50 million is a ton of money, odds are the White Sox bid something in the 25-30 million dollar range. Had he gone to them, I find it hard to believe you'd all be b****ing and moaning as you are here. - Scott Boras coming out and saying he thinks the Red Sox will make money isn't the tell all, end all thing here.. I, along with many other well respected sports columnists, are in agreement that this move, regardless of if it's 50 or 100 million dollars, is a pretty darn good one. - I view this as an offseason renovation to Fenway that is done in hopes of bettering my Fenway and Red Sox experience. I'm not going to lash out at John Henry for spending his money this way, first of all, it's his money, and second of all he's as rich as he is for making these type of business savvy moves. It's comical that people my age, sitting in there parent's basement, are knocking this mans move. - I can be pissed off that the Yankee payroll is up around $200 million dollars because the Red Sox will never come close to that figure. There is also a good chance that the Red Sox Opening Day payroll will be within $5 million dollars of the White Sox payroll, going along with this, White Sox fans should be forbidden to b**** about either the Red Sox or the Yankees, or the financial system in baseball in general. I have a class in ten minutes.

NAPLES, Fla. - Agent Scott Boras said he always thought that a team with a TV network would land his talented right-handed client, Deisuke Matsuzaka. Though the Sox and Boras still have to negotiate a contract which could get a little bumpy along the way, he was neither surprised that it was Boston or that the bid rose as high as $51.1 million. As he strolled through the lobby of the Grande Resort Hotel early this morning Boras felt the Red Sox understood the value of Matsuzaka's celebrity in Japan and how they can turn that celebrity into cold hard cash. Boras said that his sources in Japan estimated that the Yankees make about $21 million off Matsui through advertising and marketing. With that blueprint in place, the Red Sox merely followed it by trying to obtain their own Japanese star with dollar-power. Asked about the large bid, Boras said, "The first thing it reflects is the value of one of the world's best pitchers. It reflected his domination in Japan and the WBC. It will certainly have a great impact on baseball on the field and an impact on internationalizing major league baseball and increasing revenues both in the advertising and marketing area. "There's going to be a great deal of interest (in Matsuzaka) because he's had a great career in Japan and when and if the time for him is to play in the major leagues comes I think it's going to draw great attention. He throws 95 and he has four pitches. He is a player who comes here with a resume and a track record that transfers. The hitters who come here there was always a question about whether their power would be whether 35 home runs and a .350 batting average would transfer in the major leagues. I think Ichiro has demonstrated that a great player in Japan can be a great player here. He has a chance to have an immediate impact on a major league team," Boras said. Boras said that Matsuzaka, who was flying into Los Angeles today where Boras was expected to meet with him this weekend, was also going to pay a visit to Boston. Sox GM Theo Epstein invited Boras and Matsuzaka's wife, a Japanese TV reporter, and family to Boston, but early this morning Boras said he had yet too discuss the matter with Matsuzaka, who had committed to a Seibu Lions event next Tuesday. Asked what his reaction was to Boston winning the bid, Boras said " think his reaction was that he is looking through the process. He respects the Red Sox organization and he respects the Seibu Lions. He understands that this is a business relationship that he is examining this process for himself." The tact Boras will take with this contract negotiating will be interesting. As much as there is a blueprint for Matsui's financial impact for the Yankees, there is also a blueprint for major Japanese players' contracts. While Matsuzaka would be considered a rookie if signed by the Sox and technically under Boston's control for six years, his contract will likely contain a similar clause to Matsui's which essentially would make him a free-agent after the final year of the contract, which will most likely be three or four years. The clause basically does not allow the team - the Red Sox or the Yankees - to be able to offer arbitration. Therefore, the player either has to be a free-agent after the terms of the deal or a new deal must be agreed upon. Asked whether Roy Oswalt's five-year, $70 million deal would be a starting point for discussions, Boras said that it would not because Oswalt wasn't a free-agent. Boras, who began talks with Epstein yesterday and also discussed other clients like J.D. Drew with Epstein said that he and Epstein "have always had a good working relationship along with John Henry and Larry (Lucchino). It's never been anything but a creative process." Among the issues that will have to be resolved is how to make Matsuzaka and his family feel comfortable in Boston. Matsuzaka' and his wife have a small child. His wife does speak some English, but it appears that the Sox will have to bring aboard an interpreter and a public relations person to handle the local media as well as the Japanese media which will be making Boston's its home. http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/reds..._thinks_so.html Basically, Boras, like everybody else, thinks the Red Sox will make money from this move.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Nov 15, 2006 -> 02:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So why does $51.1 mill have to cover 2 seasons? Last I checked, the Red Sox are only spending that $51.1 mill THIS season. And the Red Sox will likely end up giving Matsuzaka a deal around 3/$30 or so, which is $81 mill for 3 years. If you can't get Zito and Schmidt for 3 years at less then $81 mill, I'd be shocked as hell. So they're willing to pay more than the luxury tax, so long as they don't break MLB rules and actually pay against the luxury tax. Oh k, there's nothing ethically wrong about that at all... ...other than the fact that it's a ridiculously stupid business decision, but carry on. The Red Sox aren't spending $51.1 million dollars for one season. They are spending $51.1 million to have him for 3-5 years. You aren't making a lick of sense in this regard. As I mentioned, you can't simply combine the posting fee and the contract. If you think signing Matsuzaka isn't atleast a mediocre business decision, you're wrong. The fact that it could be a top of the line on field decision makes it a good move altogether. Let's say $30 million won it. Lets say the White Sox were that winning team. What would your opinion of the move be?

No money has changed hands of yet. If a deal is struck, the Red Sox would be inclined to send over $51.1 million dollars. If a deal is not struck, then as we currently sit, no money would be done away with.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Nov 15, 2006 -> 01:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Embrace the dark side, Luke. I am your father. God, I wonder what the White Sox bid. Lets say the White Sox won the bid for $30 million dollars. What would you say then? And wipe that chocolate off your face.

You can't simply add the posting fee and the contract together like that. $10 million at 40% is $14 million dollars, where as $51.1 million is $51.1 million. As I mentioned before, or perhaps I was just thinking it in my head, I view the posting fee money the same I viewed the money spent on renovating Fenway in years past. It's going to better my Fenway experience, it's coming right out of the owner's pockets, and it won't hinder the team down the road as signing Zito and Schmidt would have.

Please, just because they are friends doesn't mean he'll be signed. I prefer the Peavy rumors. Schilling, Beckett, Matsuzaka, Peavy, Papelbon with Lester coming back, god willing. That's a damn good rotation.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Nov 15, 2006 -> 01:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Has Theo ever done anything wrong in your eyes. 51 million just to negotiate with a pitcher who has some serious wear and tear on his arm. Maybe Theo should ask Bill James about pitcher abuse points. As Jason had said, you could of taken the large amount of money you dished on a might be and put in on 2 of the offseasons best starters and still had some change left over. Theo has done a lot of wrong. Of late, he's done more wrong than right. And no, as much as I respect Jason, he's wrong. Not only would 51.1 million dollars not be enough to ink the both of them for two seasons combined, the Red Sox wouldn't have done that, because they would be right near or possibly over the Luxury Tax, something they have come out and said they wouldn't do. Schmidt might be able to be had, in addition to Matsuzaka. Curt Schilling and him are friendly and said today he'd love to talk to him and do some convincing.

The YES Network is broadcast overseas. It's been rumored that NESN will go the same route and as a result money will be made.

So the Red Sox are cheaters now? haha. Here's a cookie:

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 14, 2006 -> 09:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Met fans have huge hard on's for their prospects, just like we do with ours(well, kinda ) All fan's do. Point in case Brian N. Anderson with most White Sox fans, and Izzy Alcantara with me.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Nov 15, 2006 -> 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It was sarcasm. I'm sure the Red Sox will see some money coming back from Tokyo, assuming they get the deal done. And if they don't get the deal done, then all that money that came right from John Henry's pockets goes right back in. God, I hope that doesn't happen. QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 15, 2006 -> 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Isn't it true All overseas MLB merchandise revenue is divided evenly amongst all the MLB ballclubs? I'm not entirely sure about merchandise. However, the Yankees make an astronomical amount from YES being broadcasted overseas, just as the Red Sox will make money from NESN being purchased and broadcasted overseas.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Nov 15, 2006 -> 12:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm sure signing Mr. Gyroball won't lead to any sort of TV or merchandising deals in Japan From all the overseas reports I've read, this seems like the biggest news of the year. How do you figure?

See, it's funny you mention that the Yankees have paid that amount the last two years through the Luxury Tax. Are the Yankees also going to get almost all of it back through a TV deal in Japan, and then make money on the investment through merchandise, etc? I didn't think so, blogster. Just stop trying to claim your s*** don't stink.

QUOTE(Benchwarmerjim @ Nov 14, 2006 -> 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I dont want to hear on Red Sox fan complain about the Yankees payroll ever again Why? The Red Sox cannot afford to go over the luxury tax, the Yankees can. This money doesn't go towards that tax. The Red Sox and White Sox draw strong similarities post-World Series financially, but that's nor here nor there. *Ducks cover*

I hadn't seen it as official until just now.

I view it as ownership putting money into Fenway renovations as they have done in years past. Matsuzaka will better enhance my Fenway experience, as well as others. It doesn't go against the cap, something Henry has already said he won't come near as Zito or Schmidt would have. I like the move, no I love the move, and I applaud Henry for getting the rights to a player that every team in the majors wanted. Also, nobody has a damn clue how much money it was. It could be 32, it could be 38, it could be 42, it could be 51.1... Nobody knows.. Regardless of how much it was, I have a feeling John Henry won't have a problem feeding his family any time soon.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Nov 14, 2006 -> 01:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Vermont will most likely win the AEast(them or the Great Danes), they're not a bad team at all. Still, obviously a game you got to win at home. Yea, my thoughts are all over the place trying to defend my team. Nothing should be taken away from Vermont, they'll win the American East in my opinion, they're an experienced team as well. Obviously have to win at home as you said, but look at that rotation. Nobody expected Spears to play as much as he did, hell he wouldn't have had Williams and McClain not been suspended. Dudley played all 40 minutes.. They didn't shoot well. They got beat, but there were alot of factors and reasons for why they did.

Vermont isn't a bad team, although there is no denying it was a really bad loss for Boston College. Still, it is definitly a wake up call. No longer do you have the ACC player of the year in Craig Smith, no longer do you have Luis Hinnant, and when you add McClain and Williams to that inactive list your roster becomes mighty thin. Dudley played all 40 minutes, only six players saw legit time. Again, it was a horrible loss, but there isn't a doubt in my mind they'll bounce back.

Has the Joe Torre watch began?

Everything that's been said in or around Boston is that tapping into the Japanese market will more than pay for the amount they put up for bid to claim the rights to talk with Boras. It made way too much sense for the Mariners and Yankees and to a lesser extent the White Sox, so long as they can ink him to a decent deal having that leverage of him wasting away another year if they don't come to an agreement. As for JD Drew. I find it extremely hard to believe that the Red Sox would be so cautious to give Johnny Damon 4 years and 40 million yet are going to give Drew well over the 3 years and 33 million dollars he left on the table. It just doesn't make any sense.