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If its Mueller or not- I see KW making trades extremely soon. Probably when we least expect it. (Oh yes KW is flying under the radar once again!)

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Jun 15, 2005 -> 04:40 AM) I have been preaching this for over a month now on another White Sox message board, and today an article was written by Eric Wilbur preaching the same thing: So once again, Bill Mueller will be traded to the White Sox. I read on an ESPN article awhile ago that the BOSox want Shea Hillanbrand back. So trading Mueller makes sense for the Red Sox as they need bullpen help badly and they obviously need to trade someone and the White Sox desperately need a new 3B. I can see KW attempting to trade either Shingo or Vizciano to them to go along w/ a prospect. You notice that Ozzie is trying to get Vizciano as many innings as he can to help lower his ERA? Possibly to help raise his trade value? And as far as Shingo is concerned- do you notice he is not on the new White Sox banner on WhiteSox.com? This trades makes sense from a lot of point of views, BUT- what happens to Crede? Can he possibly be dealt to the Mariners for Eddy Guardado? I know they have Beltre- but Beltre is capable of being a DH because Crede is a much better fielder. So many things to think about...................

2 ugly loses in a row :puke well lets just hope Jon G can salvage a win for us tommorow. We definitley don't want to get swept at home any time!

QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Jun 15, 2005 -> 01:32 AM) this game is over The bullpen has to hold em to 6- thats all. We have 4 innings to score 4 runs for the win. I'm not giving up yet. Its kind of crazy- when Contreras sucks- El-duque sucks, when Contreras pitches well- El-duque pitches well. Are they attached to the hip?

I like this trade idea. But only if Crede is the one that gets shafted. Move Uribe to 3rd (he has a cannon for an arm) and play Omar at SS. Uribe has been heating it up offenseively and his defensive skills are above average, Crede on the other hand will hit a home run every once in awhile- but in between there are waaaayyy too many pop-outs and strike outs. KW did really want Omar in the offseason- but as you guys said before his contract is rediculous and I highly doubt the Giants would eat it up if they ended up trading him here. Not to mention KW probably felt dis-respected when Omar who almost was a garunteed sign for us decided to to go play for the Giants last minute. So the chances of a trade like this happening is 50-50.

Say NO to Griffey. That move would just make no sense. At least for this season. I would love to see him as our DH possibly in 2006, if KW doesnt re-sign Everett or Thomas back. But this year there just isn't room for him. Our outfield is awesome. Pods-Arow will be out there for years to come and Dye is hitting the ball now. And when Dye's contract expires after the 2006 season (or 2007 season?) I expect Sweeney or Anderson to take over in RF. But as far as moves for this season are concerned: we need one more reliever (EDDY EDDY EDDY!!) And an a possible upgrade at 3B. Things are just fine w/ Crede as of now (only because of his defense) but if KW can upgrade there- this team would instantly become WS contenders if not already.

Hopefully yesterday they were just tired due to the flight from San Diego and hopefully Contreras got his 1 bad game out of him this year. I expect each starter to have at least 1 or 2 of those this year. And when I mean bad game I mean give up 6 runs or more. I see the Sox playing small today vs Vazquez for the win. We need El-duque to hold em to at least 3 today. Any ideas on the line up yet? I can see this: 1. Pods LF 2. Gooch 2B 3. A-Row CF 4. Pauly 1B 5. Crazy Carl DH 6. Dye RF 7. A.J. C 8. Crede 3B 9. Uribe SS No surprises. Frank will probably miss a game or 2.

Everett is awesome. KW better not trade him. In fact I say KW shouldn't trade Frank or Carl. What a nice win. This win feels much better than a normal win because of what happened last nite. Its nice to see almost everybody contribute. And what can you say about Pollite- this guy is the most under rated guy that we have in out pen. Now lets rip it up on this 12 game homestand.

I'd like to have a solid 6 to 7 game cushion come August 15th, because then is where we play the Twins 13 times till the end of the season. Anything can happen in those games, and if we only had a 3 game lead going into the final 13 games with the Twins I would be a little worried, because the end of the season is when the Twins really heat it up. I understand where you come from NUKE- its nice to stay competitive all year long but its also nice to be comfortable and watch the Twins sweat come september for once. And oh yeah- in 2000 we backed into the playoffs- TRUE. But we also had NO pitching- it didn't surprise me that we were swept. Plus Ozzie is a much better manager than Manuel will ever be- he won't let them back into the playoffs. And he will most definitley wont let his players get too comfortable- even with a big cushion.

I know this sounds wierd, but I would rather have KW go after 2 solid players that would blend in with the team chemistry, rather than go after a mega-superstar like A-Rod. New York wouldn't even think of trading A-Rod this year anyways- even if they do have a down year. If anything New York will just try to unload the starting pitchers like Kevin Brown, Randy Johnson, Jarrod Wright exe....

The White Sox have a very solid core of starting pitching. With that said how would you react to starting your major league career in the bulpen? It has worked great for Mark Buerhle and now for Neal Cotts and I think it can do wonders to start your MLB career off.

I think Carl's problem is he is focusing too much on power from the left side- that is why is average is down. On the right side- he is more of a contact hitter- that is why his average is up. If Carl shortens his swing from the left side every once in awhile- we will see his average rise up quickly.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Jun 8, 2005 -> 03:05 PM) I think we have like 20 games in Sept. against either KC, Detroit or Cleve.....yeah they really got it in for us. :headshake We have to remember the critics picked us to finish 4th in the division. So maybe they thought Cleveland and Detroit would be a way to stick it to us? Who knows- maybe this is just a way for Carl to pump up his team. They say is a great leader in the clubhouse.

Let him preach. I agree with some of his points. Why do we seem to play the Yankees and Red Sox in August and September every year. And why do the Twins get a lot of days off in September while we are getting many days off in June when the season is still relatively early? Conspericy? Possibly... But as long as they keep playing like they have been all year- we will beat the Yankees and Red Sox in August and we will beat the Twins for the Central Division title. IMO the whole division will be determined in those final 13 games with the Twins starting August 15th to the end of the season.

I understand that Frank has been the best all-time player in Sox history and he obviously carries sentimental value in the hearts of many Sox fans. The reason I made this pole was because I have read that Ozzie Guillen has been having headaches about the lineup card on a daily bases. And when Frank recently complained about playing time- I realized that KW might pull off a move so either Carl or Frank gets the ABs they deserve. Its awesome to have Frank back- BUT we started off the year on fire w/o him. This team doesn't need Frank to win. Carl is just as capable of driving in runs. I was a little pissed when Frank complained about playing time ALREADY! I would love for KW to keep them both- as depth is an important key to championship teams. Who knows- Maybe Ozzie can have a meeting with them and figure out ways to make everyone on the same page and somewhat happy. I guess we'll just have to wait and see...

QUOTE(jerseysox @ Jun 7, 2005 -> 06:02 PM) who is frank going to replace as dh in that lineup? Umm Jeff DaVanon really isn't that much of a threat- im sure the Angels would be glad to replace him for the Big Hurt.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 7, 2005 -> 05:52 PM) You really think they would spend 12 million dollars on a 37 year old hitter coming off of a season ending injury, come on. Do you reall think we should?

QUOTE(jerseysox @ Jun 7, 2005 -> 05:39 PM) exactly. he would have to go an AL team that can afford him that needs a DH only. who is that team? The Anahiem Angels desperatly want a DH, and their owners are not afraid of spending money.

QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Jun 7, 2005 -> 05:04 PM) I would much rather keep them both and ship Timo to the farthest regions of the planet... but thats just me...because say Dye or Frank get hurt it would be nice to have Everett's bat there in case... very good point. Depth is important on championship teams. especially if an injury occurs. insurance is a beautiful thing.

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Jun 7, 2005 -> 05:02 PM) You're out of your mind...Frank stays...Everett can f*** off! What makes you think Frank will go back to his old form? He's been out for a long-long time. And history speaks that it usually takes Frank a long time before he returns to himself. (See Franks 2002 season after he got hurt in 2001)

Having Frank back is nice, but Everett was a big part of our early season success- He came up w/ that big hit when needed. I would have to go w/ Crazy Carl. Its been a nice run Frank!

No to Gary Glover. Why get him back? He wasn't special with us- average at best. John Adkins can do more- and all we have to do is bring him up. How about bring up John Adkins and release Vizciano?

Question in regards to Guardado. If we get him- he most likely won't be our closer. How would his attitude be if he is just a set-up man? I would love to acquire Guardado though.. I'm sure AJ would put in a good word to KW about him if a situation comes up where we can acquire him.

The Sox will take 2 of 3. Yes it is the Rockies, but its almost impossible for us to sweep a team nowadays. But I'll take 2 of 3 in every series from here on out.

haha i knows its pretty damn s***ty, but it gives us an idea of what he'd look like in a Sox uniform.