GreatScott82

Let him preach. I agree with some of his points. Why do we seem to play the Yankees and Red Sox in August and September every year. And why do the Twins get a lot of days off in September while we are getting many days off in June when the season is still relatively early? Conspericy? Possibly... But as long as they keep playing like they have been all year- we will beat the Yankees and Red Sox in August and we will beat the Twins for the Central Division title. IMO the whole division will be determined in those final 13 games with the Twins starting August 15th to the end of the season.

I understand that Frank has been the best all-time player in Sox history and he obviously carries sentimental value in the hearts of many Sox fans. The reason I made this pole was because I have read that Ozzie Guillen has been having headaches about the lineup card on a daily bases. And when Frank recently complained about playing time- I realized that KW might pull off a move so either Carl or Frank gets the ABs they deserve. Its awesome to have Frank back- BUT we started off the year on fire w/o him. This team doesn't need Frank to win. Carl is just as capable of driving in runs. I was a little pissed when Frank complained about playing time ALREADY! I would love for KW to keep them both- as depth is an important key to championship teams. Who knows- Maybe Ozzie can have a meeting with them and figure out ways to make everyone on the same page and somewhat happy. I guess we'll just have to wait and see...

QUOTE(jerseysox @ Jun 7, 2005 -> 06:02 PM) who is frank going to replace as dh in that lineup? Umm Jeff DaVanon really isn't that much of a threat- im sure the Angels would be glad to replace him for the Big Hurt.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 7, 2005 -> 05:52 PM) You really think they would spend 12 million dollars on a 37 year old hitter coming off of a season ending injury, come on. Do you reall think we should?

QUOTE(jerseysox @ Jun 7, 2005 -> 05:39 PM) exactly. he would have to go an AL team that can afford him that needs a DH only. who is that team? The Anahiem Angels desperatly want a DH, and their owners are not afraid of spending money.

QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Jun 7, 2005 -> 05:04 PM) I would much rather keep them both and ship Timo to the farthest regions of the planet... but thats just me...because say Dye or Frank get hurt it would be nice to have Everett's bat there in case... very good point. Depth is important on championship teams. especially if an injury occurs. insurance is a beautiful thing.

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Jun 7, 2005 -> 05:02 PM) You're out of your mind...Frank stays...Everett can f*** off! What makes you think Frank will go back to his old form? He's been out for a long-long time. And history speaks that it usually takes Frank a long time before he returns to himself. (See Franks 2002 season after he got hurt in 2001)

Having Frank back is nice, but Everett was a big part of our early season success- He came up w/ that big hit when needed. I would have to go w/ Crazy Carl. Its been a nice run Frank!

No to Gary Glover. Why get him back? He wasn't special with us- average at best. John Adkins can do more- and all we have to do is bring him up. How about bring up John Adkins and release Vizciano?

Question in regards to Guardado. If we get him- he most likely won't be our closer. How would his attitude be if he is just a set-up man? I would love to acquire Guardado though.. I'm sure AJ would put in a good word to KW about him if a situation comes up where we can acquire him.

The Sox will take 2 of 3. Yes it is the Rockies, but its almost impossible for us to sweep a team nowadays. But I'll take 2 of 3 in every series from here on out.

haha i knows its pretty damn s***ty, but it gives us an idea of what he'd look like in a Sox uniform.

The latest Score report said that Billy Beane said he is not trading Chavez. He also said that Chavez doesn't want to play for Chicago anyways. I'm not sure what to think of this....

QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 12:56 PM) I hope this deal gets done but I am going to take the ol wait and see approach and try not to get over excited by every new rumor or whatever.... Thats the approach we should tall take to any rumor. Remember KW likes to hide under the radar as far as rumors and trades are concerned. This rumor seems to be right on KWs doorstep. He rarely pulls a move off when its the talk of town. Last season we didn't expect KW to acquire Freddy Garcia when he did it. And this year- if we aqcuire Chavez- it would be when we least think about it. Or when we think the rumor is in fact just a rumor.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:28 PM) Cotts as a starter? You've just got to be kidding me. Our bullpen has had enough difficulties lately, the last thing I want to do is rob it of 1 of its lefthanders. Would we bring Walker back up to take Cotts's spot in the pen? (shuddering). The fact is this...there is no one who could take over McCarthy's position as a backup to the Cubans (or anyone else who gets hurt) in our organization right now. This means that if anyone does get hurt and we've already traded BMac, either our chance at a title ends right there or we have to go and pay an even higher price for a pitcher. What happens if BMac is traded and on August 15th Contreras or El Duque go down with season ending injuries? You're past the trading deadline then without a backup plan. And Oh yeah, you're starting a 3 game set with the Twins. Some good points there. Cotts is a valuable asset to our pen. (Never thought i'd say that) Maybe KW can make a trade for Chavez without giving up BMac? We also have to remember that we would already eat up that huge contract and take that off Oaklands chest. That alone should be worth a solid prospect. We could possibly get away with just trading Crede and Sweeney and another top-prospect pitcher.

If El-duque goes back on the DL and McCarthy is an Athletic. Then I can see KW making a move to acquire another starting pitcher. There is NO WAY we will go through that black-hole 5th spot again. Other insurance policies could be Cotts. He has been pitching pretty solid lately.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 09:17 PM) I'm sure that Chavez batting near Frank in the lineup would help his numbers greatly. anyone who bats near Frank usually has an increase in average. Tells you how important the big man is.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 09:13 PM) He didnt say anything, he said that he will come around and that hes not worried, he sounded pretty calm about the whole thing. Its speculation around Oakland that he is just pushing so hard to make the team win that he is swinging at some bad pitches. he also has no protection in the lineup. Right! Similar to what Pods said he did with Milwaukee last season. He simply tried to do too much. After Pods went back to what he knows how to get on base and didn't try too hard to too other things he turned back into the player he was in his rookie season. If Chavez is in a new atmosphere and realizes he wont need to do as much in this lineup as they expect him to due in Oakland- we will see a BIG increase in his average and his hitting.

I know this trade is mostly all talk right now. But I couldn't help to think what our team would look like with full health and w/ the addition of Chavez. STARTING LINEUP: 1. Pods LF 2. Gooch 2B 3. Thomas DH 4. Konerko 1B 5. Chavez 3B 6. Rowand CF 7. Dye RF 8. Pierzynski C 9. Uribe SS BENCH: Everett, Harris, Widger, Ozuna, Gload (Perez gets sent down or released) World Series worthy?!

Not sure. Heard many fans talk about it on the Sox post game show the past week or so. And when I heard that Chavez expects to be traded if the A's keep on losing on the Score yesterday- i found that very interesting. Now you have this article in Scot Merkin's section in the DH. Hmm I wonder if any of the ESPN douches know anything about this rumor?

The last time KW labeled a player an untouchable- he ended up trading him in a package for Freddy Garcia (Jeremy Reed). Yes BMac is also labeled an untouchable but when the right guy comes along KW never hesitates to pull a trigger. Our team needs alittle bit more power. Chavez can provide some power. I don't know for some reason I see KW pulls the trigger on this trade come the trade deadline.

eh if there is some good news- we at least won this series. As long as we continue to win series' we should be in good shape the rest of the way. Ozzie did make some bone-head moves, but that happens to the best of em. Now lets all relax on the off day- then focus on beating the crap out of the tribe.

Konerko- will snap out of it. Rowand- has snapped out of it Dye- on the verge of snapping out of it (if he hasn't already) Everett- i hope he will snap out of it Chavez- will snap out of it Crede- He is what he is. No more than a .250 hitter or less. I say we end the Crede experiement very soon!

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 07:16 PM) How exactly do you know beyond a shadow of a doubt that he will? Come on! He is batting .218- with his talent there is no where to go but up.

QUOTE(Reddy @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 07:10 PM) Chavez is 28 Chavez has 167 HR Chavez has 566 RBI Chavez has 189 2B Chavez has a .350 OBP Chavez has a .273 AVG Crede is 27 Crede has 57 HR Crede has 207 RBI Crede has 76 2B Crede has a .302 OBP Crede has a .253 AVG hmm that whole thing about crede being better... im not too sure. Crede is not better. Chavez is big time! But the contract thing worries me. KW loves flexibility- he also wants to re-sign Pauly, AJ and Jon G to extensions- wouldn't acquirering Chavez prevent that? But damn- having Chavez would be sweet as hell. We have to remember its still June 1st, he WILL get his average up, esspecially if he wants out of Oakland this year.