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Such a meh hiring. If Osiris does indeed transfer to Illinois, they will be pretyy screwed.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2007 @ Mar 20, 2007 -> 11:21 PM) I still hate his lard ass. I'm sorry, blame ESPN. Yeah, pretty much.

Hogan Knows Best

End the brand extension.

Wild Hogs is absolutely horrendous.

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Mar 19, 2007 -> 02:54 AM) Sure it's speculation -- I wrote "rumored", and I was referring to fathom's post. Aside from Jamar Smith, there are several obvious candidates to transfer (Jackson is one). If a guard transfers, you get Meacham and maybe even Wise playing a bunch of minutes next season. Yeah, if. But why in the world would Chet Frazier? He's the only canidate since Brock I believe already used a non-eligibility year.

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Mar 19, 2007 -> 02:27 AM) That pretty much sums it up. Chris Head's accusations and the CPL coaches walking out of a Weber clinic because of how he treated them are now a matter of public record. While you can bet that those facts were already used by coaches recruiting against IL, it will only be worse now. The CPL is dirty. I don't know what Self did(and he kind of didn't) to get a CPL player, but he is an exception. CPL players are not going to consistently come to Illinois no matter who the coach is. Coaches will try, but I don't see it happening. QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Mar 19, 2007 -> 02:27 AM) People can dismiss Q Watkins reopening his recruitment as "internet speculation", but when it's reported in dozens of places it seems like it's gaining legitimacy. Who would you rather play for, IL or AZ? There's a reason why the IL staff made some recent trips out to California. Maybe if you actually read the reports you will realize why it is speculation. To put it simply, they are taking precautions. They know they have to close it out. I just find it funny that Q Watkins has put all these rumors to rest with "I'm goin to Illinois" and "I know I can help next year". QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Mar 19, 2007 -> 02:27 AM) Add in the transfers that are rumored to happen this offseason, and IL will be looking at essentially walk-ons playing major minutes next season. It's not a good situation. *Sigh* More internet speculation. Except I think you just made this one up yourself. Show me a source from even a CBB message board and maybe I'll believe you. The only possible transfer would be CJ Jackson, who basically hasn't played an important minute in his 2 years there and won't crack the rotation next year.

I want to suggest this again(Didn't read the thread if it has been already suggested): Do we need a 5th starter for April? I don't think we do. Why not send everyone down for some extended competition? Keep Haegar up for the last pen spot and use the extra roster spot for a posistion player.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Mar 18, 2007 -> 03:54 AM) Instead, they were just trying to attract the disinterested Sherron Collins One small point, but Collins was a silent verbal to Illinois, so yes there was interest. Some say it was a mysterious visit from Bill Self to his mother that changed his beliefs, but I doubt it. I don't think Bill is dirty past the fact that he hires people close to recruits. Weber just lost him somehow. I don't mean to turn this into another Bill vs. Bruce pissing match like every Illini thread seems to turn into so I will just leave my final thoughts. It just bothers me about Illinois fans that Bruce is not even allowed to have a 23 win season and 4th place finish. Could they have been better this season? Yeah, probably. But it wasn't too horrible regarding all they went though.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Mar 18, 2007 -> 03:12 AM) And again, apparently Quinton Watkins is thinking about going to Arizona instead now as he didn't even sign a LOI. Says dumb internet speculation. QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Mar 18, 2007 -> 03:12 AM) Rich McBride was way more touted than Calvin Brock. Brock's stock only picked up his senior year. Everyone though McBride would eventually develop into a special college player. Fair enough, but the way Calvin Brock rose the charts during his HS season was unheard of. It was also Self's decision to go ahead and recruit McBride instead of his teamate Andre Igoudala when it became clear he could only have one of the two. I seem to remember Andre having a pretty nice career for himself. QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Mar 18, 2007 -> 03:12 AM) Weber's players obviously didn't like him enough to help him out in recruiting and instead helped out the guy before him. Why, because some guy on a White Sox message board name fathom said something? Or was it that quote from the newspaper that you continue to overreact to? "STOP THE PRESSES! DEE AND DERON SAID THEY HAD FUN PLAYING UNDER SELF! OH NO!" QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Mar 18, 2007 -> 03:12 AM) Heck, isn't Pat Beverly the one that said he would've gone to Illinois except Weber payed no attention to him. Funny how we wish we could have a player like him right now. Weber paid plenty of attention to him. When it came time to offer, the Berverly camp refused to send Illinois his transcripts. Why, no one really knows. He seemed to be ok to qualify. There was nothing weber could have done in this situation. This was all on Beverly.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Mar 18, 2007 -> 01:33 AM) Wright was definately a lock for Illinois until Self jetted out of there. Or he was just out of his sophmorehigh school year and was a lock for nothing. People who think Self just tore up the recruiting charts at Illinois need to know their facts. Deron Williams was no more highly touted than Demetri McCamey. Luther Head wasn't anymore highly touted than Quinton Watkins. Richard McBride wasn't any more highly touted than Calvin Brock. James Augustine no more than Brian Carlwell. The biggest difference between the two relies in one player- Dee Brown. Weber should have gotten his Dee in the '07 class. And he did for awhile, except this kid left Weber out to dry with no time to even recruit anyone else.

We don't need a 5th starter in April I don't believe. Keep Haeger in the bullpen for the month and send everyone else down. Heck, we could use the extra roster spot for an extra position player if need be.

Best game of the tourney by far. 2OT now.

Some suitable replacements: Lowery- Will get a look after the success of Painter and Weber Lickliter(Butler)- Most likely canidate. Gillespie- Would probably only leave for the Illinois job, but they may make a push.

I thought they were going to keep him around for another seaon.

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Mar 17, 2007 -> 01:44 PM) Wright would have joined Illinois the year after Brown left, so he wouldn't have been playing with him. What? Wright is a sophmore, no? Dee Brown graduated last year, no? ... ... I will deny it all I want because it is simply not true. If Dee Brown hated Illinois so much, why does he make monthly visits there, even with the hectic schedule of the NBA? Why does he continue to show great support for the university?

LOL AKA Weber won't pay us. You could replace his name in that article with Henson, Kruger or even Self while at Illinois and it would still have the same effect.

QUOTE(fathom @ Mar 17, 2007 -> 04:52 AM) Considering we all know what player I'm referring to, and that some of us are from the south suburbs, maybe I might just know this person's coach and best friend? So you're telling me that Dee Brown told Julian Wright to go play at Kansas instead of with Dee at Illinois? Nice try.

QUOTE(fathom @ Mar 16, 2007 -> 03:08 PM) He's not the only Kansas player who Dee told to go there over Illinois. Nice to see fathom again trying to get in a subtle dig in at Illinois on a situation he knows nothing about. And, jesus, I've never seen a bigger group of over reactors in my life.

Missed just one today. The one year I don't take Duke losing early, they lose early. I'm cursed. Anyway, I got way, way less chalk going tommorrow.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Mar 15, 2007 -> 09:52 PM) Dominating the high school game and dominating the college game are two very different things. What about his pedestrian junior college numbers make you think he could still be "big-time?" Just asking. I said he has a chance to be that. Basing this on that there are apparently major D1 programs recruiting him. I have no idea on how he has progressed/regressed in JUCO.

QUOTE(danman31 @ Mar 15, 2007 -> 09:42 PM) Which one of @Kansas and vs. Texas isn't a good win? Texas at home Considering Texas A&M at home in double OT is the Longhorn's only real impressive win.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Mar 15, 2007 -> 08:42 PM) AM trying their best to make me look good. We tried out best to tell everyone, didn't we? I have them losing in the 2nd round in every bracket I've filled out. A&M has gotten a free pass with one good win the entire season. Of course after I post this, they will go on a tear into the Elite 8.

Angel was AMAZING in high school. I remember being 100% certain he would be big-time. Looks like he still has a chance to be just that.

OSU WSU Maryland UCLA For one.