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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 09:38 PM) But not during free agency when the guy basically goes to the highest bidder. This is a very unusual way the White Sox have used to acquire high priced guys really since the first couple of seasons of JR's ownership with the exception of Belle. They went after Fisk and Bannister, but since then, they really haven't been very active with the most expensive FA. No kidding, I understand what you're trying to say. Not like I was calling JR or KW cheap, just that we don't usually up the ante to get players. Usually we know what the cost is when we go after someone.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 10:29 PM) Unless you actually go back and include moves like Rios, where they essentially signed him to a 5 years 60ish million dollar contract by getting him off of waivers, or the Peavy deal, where they not only assumed his contract, but gave up players to do it. Sure it sounds better when you make it sound bad, but the reality is that the Sox have brought in lots of big dollar guys, both from the inside and outside. I disagree, as this is a situation where they went head-to-head with other teams financially to land a player.

Looking back at it, this shouldn't come as a shock after KW's desire to get Dunn last deadline.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 10:14 PM) The issue with this is...what do we do with Ozzie's usual desire for 2 lefty setup men in the bullpen. As much as I don't want to see it, Sale very well might be in the plans to start the season there. I wouldn't count out Leesman as being next in line, as well as maybe a low-level FA signing.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 09:12 PM) How certain are you? I personally love Matt Thornton but I don't think he will be a good closer for the Sox. I think he'd be very good, and heck, a move to closer might help his arm out.

QUOTE (MuckFinnesota @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 09:08 PM) I'm glad that they cut ties with Jenks (thank you for 2005), but I hope that they don't go into this year with a closer by committee approach. If Sale isn't a starter, I would think he would be a good option. Who would the White Sox realistically bring in to close from another organization and who is a realistic (and not a pipe dream) free agent that the Sox would bring in? Thornton's going to be the closer.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 08:46 PM) Really fathom, you had to go here first? Actually, it was what I actually thought of him, and it was a shout out to greg for his love of Jenks. The Jenks vs Bagwell at bat in game 1 was the closest thing to Ricky "Wild Thing" Vaughn that I've ever seen.

Few thoughts: - something we lacked last year in my opinion was a strong sinker ball hitter, which was a void left by Thome leaving. Dunn would really help us with this, especially against a team like the Twins if they retain Pavano. - D. Lee was a player that seemed to get hurt a lot by the wind blowing in a ton at Wrigley the first few months.

Bobby, thanks for your time with the Sox. I wish you the best except for when you face us again. Jeff Bagwell never stood a chance against you in game 1. I love you Greg

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 08:41 PM) At this point, it's probably just a self-sustaining rumor. Oney read one of the earlier tweets saying Dunn had the interest of the Sox, posted that it was nearly finished, then this person posts based on that...etc. That's assuming he can read.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 08:40 PM) I wouldnt discount his information that quickly because he's a douche. There are leaks all over the org, and I like it that way. I totally agree, I put a lot more stock into this than if the beat writers said something similar.

The only thing I've heard is Sox are desperate to try and get Dunn to make a decision before Angels are done chasing Crawford and Soriano. Everything still points to Konerko going elsewhere though.

Viciedo in the OF is a bad idea, as the rumor is that he has an extremely difficult time catching fly balls.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 08:39 PM) And If I had my way, I would swap out AJP for Russell Martin. But thats just me. I've been wondering if he's an option for the Sox. Not the biggest fan of his, but his value seems low enough to hopefully get a steal.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 07:31 PM) Pierre Beckham Dunn DLee Rios Quentin Alexei AJP Morel Rock, this is the second time I've noticed you mentioning DLee and Dunn coming to the Sox.

Dunn has been target 1a, 1b, and 1c this offseason for the Sox. This doesn't come as a surprise, and wouldn't be shocked if things happen quickly starting tomorrow (after non-tenders become official).

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 05:40 PM) My name is Jordan4life aka Mikell, and Blake Griffin is f***ing sick. You know you're good when you make me tune in to Clippers highlights. For every highlight he has, he just misses three more. I watched that game on NBA TV last night, and he was far and away the best player on the court. It's not just that he is so strong and fast, but his hustle and body control is breathtaking.

The problems Ozzie and KW had with Jenks seemed to be more with off the field stuff than on it. I wish Jenks the best, but I'll be happy to not have him on the Sox anymore. Thanks for 2005 big man!

With relatively little hype, Marcus Jordan might be the most improved player in the country. UCF is playing extremely well, as they beat Florida tonight.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 1, 2010 -> 08:39 PM) Decline the option, let him walk. Oh come on, we know Alexei doesn't walk!!

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 1, 2010 -> 08:00 PM) It wasn't just the record that failed, it's the organization as a whole finding itself in a very bad position this offseason without anything to show the past 2 years. We aren't a very young team, we have young pieces though. But, we have major holes that cant be filled in by our farm system because it's bare and we have so much money tied up in a few deals that it'll be hard to fill all these holes through FA. The most concerning part of last season was our inability to beat AL teams. Not sure what final record was, but we were average at best vs AL teams.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Nov 30, 2010 -> 09:49 PM) Lets also not pretend that it hasn't worked with certain guys that we've picked up. It all depends on the situation, O Dog might fit in perfectly with the Sox clubhouse, who the hell knows. Oh, I agree. I haven't heard Hudson is a bad guy...rather, he's just very vocal. I think a lot of it depends on what happens to Konerko and AJP, and the impact that has on our clubhouse.

QUOTE (joeynach @ Nov 30, 2010 -> 08:15 PM) Orlando Hudson is going to give u .280/.350/.420 and is a plus defender, thats what matters, thats all that matters when it comes to evaluating him as a player, PERIOD! You must enjoy playing fantasy sports. I can't believe that a Sox fan would say that after the Swisher and OC debacles here.

QUOTE (joeynach @ Nov 30, 2010 -> 01:18 AM) Hence my sign Orlando Hudson idea and swap Beckham for Rasmus...ok fine if you have to throw in Morel or De Aza then so be it. Hudson is very injury prone, and if you watched him last year, it looked like he was going to blow out a knee every time he fielded the ball. Also, you have to take into account that Rasmus is not a good person, as he's had issues with managers and teammates since he graduated high school. There's quite a few stories out there about how insufferable the Rasmus family is.

QUOTE (kev211 @ Nov 28, 2010 -> 05:34 AM) Eight years of SC dominance over, though no one here cares about ND so carry on. That game will be remembered more for the Ronald Johnson drop than anything else. Three brutal choke jobs the last two nights between Boise kicker, GT kicker, and now Johnson.