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Well, that was a terrible 3rd quarter for the Bulls.

I have a feeling Drake is going to beat Iowa State tonight...NOT! Not only is Hoiberg going to be a great coach, but Lutz was the perfect hire as his assistant.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 18, 2010 -> 02:35 AM) He has a .687 OPS against him with the bases empty, .763 with runners on base last year. I don't think he was nearly as bad as I thought he'd be when I read your post. Isn't that a pretty substantial difference?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 18, 2010 -> 02:15 AM) His curveball in the thin air? He'd be a two pitch pitcher, the second being his change. Not only that, but with the likelihood he'd give up more runners on base due to the large outfields, he'd really struggle since he's so mediocre from the stretch.

Just like with AGon, it's hard to imagine a situation where the Sox can put together the best possible package. With Sale being ineligible to be traded, there's not much with regards to cheap pitching they'd want.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 09:46 PM) I don't want Ibanez, but at least he put up a 1.8 WAR, while Quentin sits there with a 0.0 WAR. He sucks on defense, and he's hitting in an amazing lineup in a great hitter's park. I want absolutely nothing to do with Ibanez.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 10:36 PM) Jason Churchill now going in on this rumor too. Wonders is the Phillies would try and get rid of Ibanez. Maybe Ibanez + Cash for Quentin and someone else. Oh hell no! Getting way older while giving up someone who actually has some trade value?

Chimpy, WTF has gotten into Chris Singleton?

Looks like Sox asked for Logan Morrison for Ozzie

QUOTE (Cali @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 09:07 PM) Yes please... I don't even care what they get back for him... What? Quentin might have a lot of faults, but at least he has power. It's not like we have depth in the minors to replace his bat right now. We can't continue to lose our resources and get no major league pieces in return (ie: Swisher and Javy)

QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 09:12 PM) He's one of those AAAA players. The Angels are responsible for both him and Brandon Wood. How unfortunate. A lot of it has to do with the launching pads their minor league teams play in.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 08:46 PM) I agree about Kenny going after Dunn hard right now. That report about Detroit going after Dunn hard right now is probably making Kenny antsy. I also think Dunn's agent is linking this in a last-ditch effort to get the Cubs involved.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 08:48 PM) McPherson is 30 already??? Wow. Still remember a bomb he hit off of Contreras to CF in Anaheim which was the first pitch after a mound visit.

Can't wait to see people calling for McPherson to be promoted next season due to huge minor league numbers.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 06:25 PM) Matsui signing would probably mean Quentin would be moving on. Not following....Matsui would be the DH

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 06:24 PM) Boston is the leader for Vmart. Everything that I've seen says they want to go with Salty at their catcher next year and will spend their money on Beltre and/or trying to get AGon.

Heyman reporting that Orioles are going after Konerko (like they did after 2005).

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 07:19 PM) They signed Jhonny Damon? Huh? Peralta

QUOTE (chisox2334 @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 07:11 PM) im taking it aj being the second Two new lefty bats

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 07:13 PM) That is a pretty big assumption right now. Have you seen anything actually that the Tigers payroll will be a certian amount next year? Besides every baseball writer reporting they're going to sign two big bats this offseason? It's been everywhere. They've already signed Jhonny and Benoit to pretty big deals, and they're considered the leaders for VMart and Dunn. They unloaded a ton of payroll from last season.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 07:13 PM) Yeah I'm gonna have to go out on a limb and say Sale isn't ever going to be an ace. His potential in the rotation is not anywhere near 7 innings per game of what you see in the ninth. He would be good, but he'd be a step down from Danks IMO. Definitely can't shout "ACE!" on him. And I'm not hating either, I love Chris Sale. He's incredible. I think Sale has more potential than Danks as a starter. It's not like Danks is a 7 innings per game guy either.

But not many teams have as much available cash as the Tigers do though.

Tigers have a chance to be really good next year if they use their money wisely the next few months. That's a big if though.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 05:54 PM) I don't see how one extra season of Sale in the bullpen at age 22 would sacrifice his entire career? You have the guy under your control for a good amount of time, he doesn't have to start right now. If he pitches 200 innings this year, will that help his career? I don't want him to be a reliever his entire career, but the move does not need to be made today. This is the perfect time for the move to be made with the uncertainty with Peavy, Jackson likely being gone after this coming season, etc.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 06:44 PM) You'd prefer Sale starting & the Sox ace on the DL, than the ace in the rotation and Sale in the pen??? I prefer the first scenario you mention. I am scared of this team using Sale in the bullpen and making him the closer just cause he's a great reliever when he can become a good starting pitcher. He's going to have to become a starter sooner than later, so go ahead and start that process now.