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QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 06:02 PM) I dont think anyone really fully knocked down the Crede vs. Dye explanation I gave. No one really took apart what went on with Wise vs. Getz and their receptions. Someone tried but I dont know if it was enough to convince me. It's easy...Dye was a FA signee, and Crede was an organizational guy we waited years to have come up and then he contributed for a good number of seasons. Wasn't he the first organizational starter we really developed in quite a while when he came up?

QUOTE (SouthsideDon48 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 05:58 PM) When was that post? I think I missed it. Also, I was only basing my theory on two cases: BA/Wise and Crede/Dye. I feel those two cases are more relevant to the original question posed my Caulfield than bringing up other people from the history of the White Sox organization. Although, the Bevington/Guillen point is very valid. I promise you this...if Konerko struggles this year and Brandon Allen destroys the minor leagues, fans will be clamoring for Allen and wanting Konerko shipped out of town.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 04:54 PM) Was this necessary? Yeah, didn't think it was a big deal. It's like at a wrestling event where a certain part of the crowd worships Matt Hardy.

I'm about as passionate as it comes when talking about Sox players and criticizing them. Not one time have I thought "well, Billy Koch is white, so we shouldn't despise him".

Any update on the weather?

QUOTE (SouthsideDon48 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 05:47 PM) The way people treated Uribe comes to mind. Uribe's defense in the infield is as good as Anderson's defense in the outfield. And both has similarily-frustrating at-bat performances. Uribe got paid 5 million dollars to be a bench player last year, and fans never turned on him. Uribe's a poor example.

The Red Sox, Astros, Rockies and Cubs message boards should be having this talk....not the White Sox.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 04:44 PM) Certain players will just never go away. Yet Willie Harris makes so much more sense!!

If Quentin was out, I'd understand it. The problem is that Pods is just terrible in CF, so not only are we getting a mediocre offensive player, but also a mediocre defensive player that has lost 2 steps since 2005.

Christmas come early for the fat female teenagers of Chicago.

This is like a bad dream. PLEASE PLAY WELL BRIAN ANDERSON!

People favor Crede over Dye because he came up in the organization...we had heard about him for over a decade. I think the White Sox fan base is fantastic with race relations.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 02:19 PM) Were you responding to my post, or someone else's? I said it shouldn't make AS MUCH a difference as it does - not that there would be no difference at all. Unless the fences are 100 feet closer, the difference shouldn't be as dramatic as it is, consistently, for their power hitters. It was just a thought out loud, not in reference to anyone specifically.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 02:14 PM) It shouldn't make as much of a difference as it does though, I don't think. I am not 100% convinced its going on, but I am leaning that direction. Maybe their park makes them into a lot better hitters than they actually are? Thus, when they're on the road, they have a lineup full of mediocre to average players?

They score a ton of runs at home because it's the best park to hit at in all of baseball. The infield is like concrete, and the warm weather allows the ball to carry to all fields. They've had a lot of turnover with their team over the last few years, so I'm sure someone would have snitched by now. Don't you think DeRosa would have said something when the Cubs played there a few years ago?

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 03:26 AM) That's funny, given that he had multiple good years, is considered to be a great guy, and has shown very little that suggest he was ever on drugs. Ok, how about just don't trust anyone that comes from the Oakland organization when it comes to PEDs.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 13, 2009 -> 04:37 PM) I think Twins fans have seen a bit of how much Crede has eroded in the past few years. I've seen him strike out three times in clutch situations late in the game already this year.

Any chance this is played? Looks like showers all day in Detroit.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 13, 2009 -> 11:34 PM) Charlotte has had a horrid start. They have 1 guy with a batting average over .250, and 1 guy with an ERA under 4.50, and he's pitched 2 innings. Kroger is 0 for 9 and Owens is 1 for 7 with 3 k's. One scout said it's one of the worst IL teams this decade

QUOTE (chisox2334 @ Apr 13, 2009 -> 09:57 PM) and tell ya something why not get edmonds Absolutely!

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Apr 13, 2009 -> 10:26 PM) I ask this because i'm curious: what affect would Ted Lilly throwing a no hitter have on anything? Carlos Zambrano threw one last September and it really meant nothing other than being a nice achievement for him personally. Nothing...doesn't mean I won't root against it happening. I love no-hitters, and will always turn a game on if a pitcher has one going into the 8th. However, not when it's the Cubs.

TED LILLY HAS A NO-HITTER AFTER 5 INNINGS!!!!!!!!!!

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 13, 2009 -> 08:39 PM) He said Ozzie said the only way it won't be Owens is if KW makes a trade before tomorrow. Get the Nationals on the phone immediately!

QUOTE (scenario @ Apr 13, 2009 -> 08:35 PM) Cowley is reporting (2 minutes ago) that Owens is getting the call. Gross!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kind of a mood killer coming on heels of 3 game win streak. Hopefully Anderson gets majority of the playing time.

What happened in bottom of the 7th?