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It's funny reading this thread to see how many people thought the loss of Hall wouldn't be a big deal. 0 for 16 later by Molina....I wonder if they still think a back-up catcher who can hits lefties wouldn't benefit this offense?

QUOTE(Hideaway Lights @ May 13, 2007 -> 09:06 PM) in my opinion, we never had a shot to go to the playoffs this season with the offseason moves that were made, so maybe that contributes to my current optimism. The division is too tough and we didn't improve enough. However, I do think now we have a chance to stay in the race most of the season and it will be at least exciting this year. I figured we might be 8-9 games back at this point and a couple games under. Fair enough, I was confused at first, cause I always thought you were pessimistic with things.

QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ May 13, 2007 -> 09:04 PM) nope. they wanted him to be CF this year. Gave him the job. He didn't hit. replaced him with Hunter Pence, who is their CF of future. Burke will play second there next season after Biggio gets 3000 hits and retired. but he blasted the team when he got sent down Friday. might be available. I was watching Ken Rosenthal yesterday, and he said the whole CF stuff and that he was the leader in the clubhouse.

QUOTE(Hideaway Lights @ May 13, 2007 -> 09:02 PM) this team is over .500 reading this thread is really depressing. this team is winning series despite its offensive woes, so obviously the sky isn't falling I just can't understand so much negativity when the team has a single bad loss after four straight wins Well, if our starting pitching can have an ERA around 3 all season, there will be a lot of us eating crow. It doesn't matter though....we're barely over .500, and there's two terrific teams in our division. We have to play significantly better than .500 ball in order to have a chance to make the playoffs.

QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ May 13, 2007 -> 09:02 PM) burke just got sent to the minors. blocked in Houston by biggio. think he could be a good young infielder. They want him to become a CF for next year. I don't think they'll trade him.

The Indians are having no problems hitting Cy Gaudin.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ May 13, 2007 -> 08:56 PM) I feel like I've said the same damn thing all season long. "If we can go five hundred on this road trip here... If we can go five hundred in this next stretch..." When the hell is this team going to make a that puts them above five hundred? I don't want an answer to that question. I just hate the Cubs so much, and to get swept by them would be terrible. Even going 1-2 there would be fine, as sad as that sounds. QUOTE(BearSox @ May 13, 2007 -> 08:57 PM) I love the fact that Dye and Iguchi are playing like they are in a contract year. Well, Dye to me seems just like he is struggling, but Iguchi looks as if he has degressed in every aspect of the game. Any good 2B on the market? 2B is the easiest position to find a decent player at. If it's not Chase Utley (and Polanco is damn good also), then every 2B is similar.

The Yanks are going to make Danks throw like 120 pitches just to get thru 5 innings.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 13, 2007 -> 08:55 PM) Are they changing the rule that requires the other team to bat. Ha, thanks for the laugh! If things keep up against LHP being so bad, I'm all for giving Fields a chance to come up and DH against them.

QUOTE(BearSox @ May 13, 2007 -> 08:53 PM) this season's offense has been disgusting...

15 hits total so far between the Sox and their three highest minor league teams. Adam Russell did horrible today. If we can go 3-3 in our next 6 games, I will be thrilled beyond belief.

QUOTE(elrockinMT @ May 13, 2007 -> 08:49 PM) Don't make fun of my disability Tad can play areal good 2base and that's a fact. But, all good players can make an error once in awqhile. I think you are letting all the negative stuff get in the way here. serenity now actually kind of works I couldn't disagree more, but we each have our own opinion.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ May 13, 2007 -> 08:46 PM) Borchard is batting .198 and strikes out once every 2.88 at-bats. His SLG% is comparable to Iguchi's. Nobody is getting on base for Iguchi either. Iguchi is 2-20 with RISP. Borchard is around .200 with RISP after today. It's sad that we even have to argue that Iguchi might be worse than Borchard. QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ May 13, 2007 -> 08:47 PM) i think we all know the answer who goes down when Hall arrives -- molina or masset? Molina

Sorry Gustavo....when you're 50 years old, you can always tell your kids you went 0 for your MLB career.

QUOTE(elrockinMT @ May 13, 2007 -> 08:43 PM) There might be some truth to that. Team chemistry is important and when you start messing with success it can bite you in the behind Team chemistry is the most overrated thing in sports. Winning = chemistry 6.61 for Jenks Jr.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ May 13, 2007 -> 08:43 PM) Hooray for another Ass Whipping!!! It's almost time to fall over ourselves to make excuses for the sad and pathetic Class A ball offense. We don't get our ass kicked very much at all. It happens, not a big deal from the pitching side. It's just the offense is worse than we give it credit for.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ May 13, 2007 -> 08:43 PM) You must be blind. Maybe abosultely means horrible?

QUOTE(elrockinMT @ May 13, 2007 -> 08:41 PM) Fathom, he has made some abosultely great plays at second When was this...must have been when I wasn't watching. All I've seen is a lack of range and poor double play turns.

BTW, Iguchi only has 3 swings this year that has resulted in an RBI. Looking at their numbers, Borchard's had a better season so far.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ May 13, 2007 -> 08:39 PM) Come on. Ronny Cedeno, Inge, Brochard, Cano, I-Roid, Pena jr., Edmonds, Eckstein, and Jason Kendall just to name a few all disagree. At least guys like Inge, Rodriguez, Pena, and Edmonds contribute defensively. Iguchi hurts us on defense, if anything.

So, remember when KW said Masset had similar stuff to Jenks? Send his ass down to the minors...he's got nothing. The scouting report I was told about him was dead on....the Rangers had no problem giving him away.

QUOTE(elrockinMT @ May 13, 2007 -> 08:36 PM) So is Baines and others. Close friend or not to me it's called supporting and believing in the whole team regardless If the reports are true and Walker feels like a big part of his job is mentally supporting these players, then that's a sad testament to the fragile psyche of these guys. I'm sure we'll hear Iguchi whining soon about how he wants to be hitting 2nd in the lineup.

QUOTE(elrockinMT @ May 13, 2007 -> 08:31 PM) I have also believe and have heard that hitting is contagious. Our guys are not rag tag players. Part of the problem is they struggle and try to hard to improve and put alot of pressure on themselves. It's a vicious cycle when your not going well. I am not defending Walker by the way I think that's an issue for the team and management and they seem to thing Walker is doing good and give him their support. Walker is close friends with Ozzie....we saw how much safety that gives you last year with Cora. Iguchi = worst player in baseball this year.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 13, 2007 -> 08:30 PM) All the hitters slumped at once? If thats the case we need to check their betting activity because the probability of a team that slumped as a group that pretty much has the same characters here that scored 520 runs in the first half last year is remote. We heard weather, we heard the pucker factor, now its slump year. Just thank your lucky stars we didn't give any contract extensions this offseason. Jermaine Dye has had two of the most memorable seasons I can ever remember for a Sox player, but I would cry if we locked him up to 3 more years at 35 million.

Not quite sure how much longer Masset will be in the majors. His average stuff, combined with poor command, has made him a liability when he's out there. He's been bailed out a lot by relievers after him to avoid him having a huge ERA.