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QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 11:33 PM) Erstad can bunt. But point taken. Yep, and shockingly, he's just joined the organization. The fundamentals was more directed at every single lousy prospect we call up from the system.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 11:26 PM) I thought he never had any managing ability? The simple truth is he doesn't have the horses right now. This team is bad! I've never thought he was a good manager....but I'm not going to be ignorant and say he never had any managing ability when he led us to a World Series. Read my post in the blame KW not Ozzie thread....not having Logan face Lind was a horrible decision!

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 11:24 PM) OK, so now Walker is teaching long and looping swings? As far as I can tell from when he talks this is not what he teaches at all. Maybe this is an organizational problem starting in the minor leagues? WIll changining the team's major league hitting coach really have any sort of affect on this? Who the hell knows what he's teaching....all we can go by is what we see, and there's way too many long swings from our players. The fundamentals on this team sucks though, as even our slappy, no power guys can't bunt.

Ozzie not bringing in Logan to face Lind was his worst managerial move of the week (high praise after how poorly he coached on this road trip). When you have Rios on deck there, you have to try and get their weakest hitter against LHP out. There's one thing that Logan can do, and it's get lefty hitters out. Now, I'm sure someone will say: how do you know he would have got Lind out? YOU DON'T! However, you have to play the match-up in that situation when someone is basically twice as good of a hitter against righty pitchers as he is lefties.

This would be the perfect time for Ozzie to prove me and a lot of his critics wrong and show that he's not lost his ability to manage. And please KW, don't trade for any aging veterans with the few prospects we have.

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 08:13 PM) it's still ozzies fault, duh. everything is I'm sure he's telling the coaches what moves to make.

Haha....Mackowiak acting like he's down 0-2 in the count.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 08:09 PM) IT'S A MIRACLE!!! I thought for sure AJ would be thrown out. that would be fitting. A good throw, and he's gone.

Will someone explain to me why AJ is still on the field?

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 08:08 PM) let me guess, you hate Weber too. Yes, but not because he's a bad recruiter. He's a fine game coach, but I hate his personality and some thing that have gone on behind the scenes.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 08:01 PM) Why do I get the feeling we are just going to ride this season out with the same s*** can bullpen, let all of our free agents walk for nothing, and finish in 4th place? If that happens, and we bring back this same GM/Manager, then I honestly think we'll finish in 5th place next year. QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 08:01 PM) The merryman on this board would tell you we are saving him for the bottom of the 9th. Rack 'em up, maybe Day is saving his job here. Can we not use merryman on this board like the illiniboard uses it to describe pro/anti Weber fans?

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 07:58 PM) If you recall, in Ozzie's first career game managing, his BP blew a 7-3 lead as he pointlessly used his closer and I remember Stairs having a double off of Botch. Of course I remember that game. However, I think KC put Stairs into the game, but then Ozzie brought in Marte, and Mendy Lopez hit an absolute bomb against him. That was the worst sports day of my life.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 07:57 PM) The starting pitcher leaves after 3 innings and we still can't get a hit off the BP. Good lord. I'm telling you, it's been deja vu recently.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 07:54 PM) Didn't he pinch hit for Matt Stairs? Since becoming manager Matt Stairs probably scares Ozzie the most of any hitter. Yep....you know I've been saying that since day one of his career. I'm pretty sure Ozzie pulled our closer in the first game of his career in order to get the lefty-lefty match-up against Stairs. I'm so pissed off that we didn't let Logan face Lind. If Lind beats Logan, then I'll be the first one to say there's nothing you can do about it.

A great way to fix our bullpen would be to have Logan face lefty hitters in situations where you know they won't get ph for.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 07:51 PM) No. The Sox couldn't find a spot for a guy like Perez anyways. We need more grinding OF's. Perez would have been such a perfect addition to this team to give Thome a rest against southpaws every once in a while. I don't care how Thome does it....but he needs to start contributing against LHP.

FWIW, Ozzie said yesterday that he knew Wells was going to be brought into the game to PH.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 07:50 PM) If the Sox lose today, they will be 1-6 on the roadtrip, and will have had the lead in all but 1 game. It is amazing to me the lack of action with the bullpen. It's amazing to me that no one has lost their job so far this year. This team is bad, and sucks in virtually every aspect possible. I bet the Yankees are going to be scared of facing Day, Prinz, and Buckvich this week.

Anyone think we might have to consider making Thome a platoon hitter in the next few years? He's a freaking joke against southpaws now.

How about some predictions for this inning? - Thome vs Downs: 3-2 fastball taken for a strike....Thome starts jogging to first - Dye vs righty: gets up 3-1 in count, chases ball 4, and then pops up to center - Konerko pops up 2nd pitch, does suicide shrug.

QUOTE(PoopsThompson @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 07:44 PM) To be fair to Day, he's only had one outing so far, yes? Wasn't Bobby Jenks' first outing in 2005 less than stellar? No, he faced Tampa, and he was good. He had a few bad outings early on against Oakland and Boston.

Is it me, or does Day's slider absolutely suck?

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 07:40 PM) ...and because it got screwed up, Ozzie is going to force everyone to practice it for an extra hour before each game. I know you hate the idea of bunting, especially in front of Thome.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 07:39 PM) God's doghouse is growing by the minute. Who's in your doghouse right now?

I really just love the smallball try there.....nothing like giving up the out to get to Iguchi and Thome, someone who can't hit lefty pitching. We played right into their pitching change. Why not let Terrero bat against Downs instead of Owens?