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QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 03:17 AM) But that's what I'm saying. If he was making tons of guys and putting people in situations where they didn't succeed, we wouldn't have the best save percentage in the league. So while he's made some dumb moves, most of them have worked out. You don't have hte lowest blown save percentage by getting lucky. You have the best save percentage because of one thing: Dustin Hermanson! Thus, if it's a save situation, put his ass in the game. If you're going to warm him up with his back problem, put him in the game.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 03:14 AM) You can get away with stupidity like that against the Royals. But against the A's, Yankees, Red Sox, Angels? I think not. He's done similar things against the Yankees, Red Sox, and Angels this year, and Marte needed to be bailed out by another reliever or the Sox offense in the next inning.

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 03:10 AM) I almost puked when they said on the radio he was playing the percentages... If you look at the stats, chances are he's going to suck in that situation... That's my favorite post of the night.

Can I just say that we should all be happy that we won, even though Ozzie seemed clueless with the bullpen. We can only hope it might adjust the way he manages. Better to have won with bad managing than to lose with good managing. No such thing as a moral victory at this time of the season.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 03:03 AM) 2005, which is this year .270 BAA with a .385OBP against the ol lefties. Those numbers would make him one of our best hitters.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 02:59 AM) He doesn't even have to look at the splits. Watch them pitch, it's that f'n simple. No kidding. It's real simple with Marte. The only pitch he can use effectively now is his high fastballs to righty hitters. If he throws that same pitch to a lefty, it ends up hitting/brushing back the lefty hitter. His slider against lefties is awful now, as he has to hang it to throw it for a strike.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 02:56 AM) Pm me what you were gonna say if you can... I am sick of it. You can't back up marte here and you also cannot call ozzie a bad manager? You cannot second guess ozzie or even question a move of his before it's done without getting smartass remarks from his backers ( sox best record in american league... hehe). Give me a break. He is a borderline awful in game manager... but i know... the sox are winning. I'm fairly confident even the biggest Ozzie supporters are pissed about the way he handled our bullpen tonight. The best news of the night is that we won! The next best news is hopefully this will be the end of Marte in a late game situation.

Ozzie's already being second guessed in the postgame conference. At least he's taking responsibility if they lose. I'm upset with Ozzie's managing...but at least we won!

QUOTE(greg775 @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 02:47 AM) You guys are acting like he brought in Viz, who truly is a stiff. Marte has talent. That wicked curve ball. It ain't Oz's fault he must be a headcast beaning two straight guys. Viz has outpitched Marte this season. And yes, it is Ozzie's fault. No one is pressuring him to bring in Marte. It's not like we don't have a closer who's been as good as anyone this season, and one of the top lefty relievers in baseball.

MERCY! That's all I'm going to say.

Wow, two straight hangers. Make a good pitch Dustin!

I hope Ozuna is guarding the line.

WALK HIM OZZIE!

Just walk him now with the 2-0 count.

NO BALKS OR WILD PITCHES/PASSED BALLS!

QUOTE(greg775 @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 02:38 AM) Why do you blame Ozzie? It's Marte who f***ed up. He can't pitch to the fricking Royals??? Throw it over the plate you bum. Cause Marte has proven that he shouldn't be in during these situations. Yet, Ozzie puts him out game after game.

Also nice of AJP to recognize Marte had no control on his slider. Guiel should have seen fastballs only.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 02:37 AM) :fyou Marte Aren't lefties hitting .108 off of Jenks? :headshake Matt Stairs is better than Babe Ruth according to Ozzie.

Lets just be happy that personal attacks aren't allowed on this board now.

What's going to be the excuses for Ozzie tonight? I don't even think jphat can excuse this.

Unbelievable. Ozzie...you're a terrible manager.

Marte's breaking ball is just awful right now. Stick with the heater!

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 02:35 AM) Probably because Cotts is better against righties. As is Marte.

f***! Come on Ozzie, Marte is awful right now! You have a closer who was warming up....USE HIM!

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 02:34 AM) Marte is a LOOGY here. Or so I hope. One guy, get him out (hopefully), then hand it to Dustin. Not with Guiel up next.