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QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 02:13 AM) Are we saying that his problem is due to him being tired/worn out? Personally I don't see that from him...it's not like this is something he hasn't done the last few years in terms of innings or pitches thrown. In fact, over the last 3 years before this one his worst month was June...this year it was his best month. He's just not getting pitches in the right spot. I don't know how to explain it. 10 less pitches in a game here or there certainly can't hurt.

JimH....I very much agree with your main point. All year, I've said our lineup has way too many easy outs. We just don't make the pitcher work. I've never seen a team worse at fighting off good pitches (foul), and then try to work the count for a good pitch to hit. Recently, Pods had turned into D. Jimenez Jr. in that fashion. When B. Abernathy looks like he has a better approach than any Sox hitter, you suck!

Anyone else anticipating an Ozzie blowup with the media when they start to question him about this team fading down the stretch?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 02:02 AM) How many relievers do we have who didn't pitch last night? We could easily fill out those two innings. If we needed a fresh arm, we should have sent down Adkins for another reliever (and yes, maybe the great Baj could have been called up). There was not a single f***ing thing to be gained by putting Buehrle back on the mound for this inning.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 02:01 AM) Why was MB out there? He had 110 pitches to start the inning. This is the type of game that Adkins is for. Cause Ozzie has absolutely no clue how to handle taking out his starting pitchers.

Ok, am I missing something, or why the f*** would you let Buehrle start that inning? He was facing a guy that's hit 2 homers against him tonight, and when you're down 5, there's no reason to risk injury or put extra stress on a starter's arm. Bad move Ozzie!

QUOTE(SpringfieldFan @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 01:54 AM) Yeah, I see the light there. Until now I was holding hope KW would surprise us and snare him. If the team is going to be like this, I don't want to waste the talent and dollars it would take just to get the Griffey band-aid. SFF Not sure if you were there, but do you remember when I said that we shouldn't be too pissed if this team fails to go far if they make the playoffs? There's absolutely no reason to think that this was THE YEAR for the White Sox. It's not like we've geared up our whole franchise for this one season. It's not like we have more talent than every other team in baseball. Our pitching has overachieved so much this season, and our offense has underachieved. However, since all you have to do is score 1 or 2 runs when your pitching dominates, we were able to feast on s***ty teams in the first half of the year.

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 01:39 AM) this is going to be so f***ing humiliating if we get no hit by santana I must be the only person rooting for the no-hitter? And please, don't say I'm a bad Sox fan for saying that. Sometimes, you have to hit rock bottom before you can regroup.

QUOTE(SpringfieldFan @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 01:36 AM) If any team is so dependent on one person that it cannot win without him, it is in serious trouble. SFF Especially when we're talking about Scott Podsednik, and not a true superstar. Pods being in the lineup doesn't have anything to do with guys like Crede or Uribe.

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 01:37 AM) that is sad, especially since they lost. Hopefully she understands. Oh yeah, she's tremendous. Also, she felt bad for me cause she knew I had to get up for work about 5 hours after the game, and she's off this week.

BTW, it's great to be able to talk about Sox stuff with fellow fans. I know a lot of us disagree a lot of the time, but it really is more enjoyable than having to watch a game with your girlfriend! Funny story: My girlfriend was gone on vacation for a week, and got home last night around 7. She knows I like to watch the Sox games by myself, so she knew we'd hang out after the game. The poor girl, by the time Adkins had choked, was sound asleep.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 01:28 AM) Indians lose. Look for the positive through this crap. Have the magic # go down at least once per day. Exactly. It would be great if teams play the Twins tough the rest of the way. I have no faith in our ability to beat them though.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 01:28 AM) WH never had 45BB & 32SB that I'm aware of. Pods definitely was hurt. You could see it when he would take off on the split screen. His initial push-off was slower. I'm not saying Owens is the solution but he's got better instincts as a LO hitter than Timo. I'm just relaying the comparison I heard about Owens from someone who has seen him play a lot. Since I haven't seen him, I'm going with this person's observation. The thing that gets me with Pods is this: If we knew all along we were going to DL him in the 2nd half, why wasn't KW more aggressive in trying to get a 4th outfielder that could step in and play LF if Pods was on the DL? I almost feel like KW spent way too much time trying to do the impossible before the deadline, like getting Burnett to want to resign in Chicago, getting Tampa to not be insane in a trade, and trying to get someone like Billy Wagner.

Indians lose!

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 01:26 AM) Mariotti? Steve Stone

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 01:22 AM) Sox don't advance past the first round, or good forbid--collapse before the seasons end, this is going back to Williams. Don't make a deadline move or acquire Griffey, especially after these latest offensive troubles, you'll have a lot of explaining to do. If they make the playoffs, KW is off the hook. IF we don't make the playoffs (I pray that we do make it), KW should be fired. You better believe who our next GM would be......?

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 01:22 AM) How much of the lead will slip away before they bring up Owens? You mean the next Willie Harris? I'm sorry, but if we expect him to help us at all, we're screwed. I still have the feeling we DL'd Pods not cause he was really hurt, but because we wanted to give him a rest.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 01:22 AM) WE ARENT PLAYING THE WAY WE PLAYED WHEN WE BUILT THIS LEAD. WE ARE NOT ADVANCING RUNNERS, WE ARE NOT PLAYING DEFENSE, WE ARE NOT AGGRESSIVE. WE HAVE LOST EVERY BIT OF THE STYLE THAT HAS MADE US GOOD. NOW THE TWINS HAVE IT ON DISPLAY, REMEMBER? WE AREN'T GETTING LUCKY!

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 01:21 AM) I'm going for the jinx. Are you seriously rooting for the no-hitter? How would Hawk explain the greatest team ever being no-hit?

QUOTE(ChiSox_Sonix @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 01:20 AM) Just saw on YES that we're gonna see Mussina, Chacon and Wright vs the Yankee$ The 5 game streak could very well be 6 or 8 by sunday :puke No Randy? That's good.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 01:19 AM) JOHAN SANTANA HAS A NO HITTER THROUGH 4. Since it's likely we won't score 5 runs tonight, I hope he gets the no-hitter.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 01:20 AM) The funny thing is im not upset. Normally I'd be throwing things. I guess thats what a big lead does. FOR REAL, REAL YO!!!!!!!!! Funny thing is that I agree with you.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 01:18 AM) We need to admit that we may be seeing the beginning of one of the largest collapses in sports history. How pathetic. You think this is bad? If the lead gets to like 3, there will be meltdowns of biblical proportions. I'm actually sitting back and enjoying our double digit lead. I'm not sure how much longer we'll be able to say that.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Aug 18, 2005 -> 01:18 AM) Ozzie needs to get Burhrle out of here, Give his arm some rest. Put Adkins in and let him get hammered, this game is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO over! Ha, good luck with that happening.

Buehrle continues to struggle against the top teams in the AL. Outside of the Angels, he's been pretty awful against teams like Boston, Oakland, and the Twins. There's not a doubt in my mind that Garland is our ace.