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QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 20, 2006 -> 09:30 PM) Their execution and managing is amazing tonight. The stats also don't show the late game defensive struggles that Rowand had last year. Crede's walkoff Vs the Indians never happens if Rowand doesn't botch a ball hit right at him in the top of the 9th.

QUOTE(whitesoxmanager @ Sep 20, 2006 -> 09:23 PM) ok enough already Dr. LaRussa. you are killing me with these silly stats. Arow did more with those averages than Thome has done the entire last 4 months. for that ROSS GLOAD has been better for our team in his short spell in the lineup than JT! could there be a correlation between our losing late and Arows .230 average? did we win when he hit well? hmmmm.... You're beyond insane.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 20, 2006 -> 09:18 PM) Well the Ozzeroo with another great pitching decision. 8th inning after 4 runs given up, lets keep the starter in there. Kalapse, did you see where Cooper was on the pregame and was saying that Freddy wasnt healthy for most of the year. And he is finally feeling good, and didnt want to miss a start because he is a gamer. The excuses and the pitty party for the 2006 whitesox have begun. It's been an incredibly annoying season and it's going to be an even more annoying offseason with all the excuses that will be tossed around. I'm also done debating the future of Freddy Garcia with people. This whole f***ing team sickens me.

Well, Garland has been pretty terrible tonight.

The Sox are once again getting their asses handed to them but hey they won it all last year, so you really can't complain about this disgrace of a second half.

QUOTE(whitesoxmanager @ Sep 20, 2006 -> 09:00 PM) Thome just cant handle pressure situations... Same goes for Konerko.

QUOTE(whitesoxmanager @ Sep 20, 2006 -> 08:55 PM) LOL..that was a pretty rude comment...but oh well... the most misunderstood aspect of this site is that it is ez to hate on here but when we meet wearing the same gear at the park we love each other to death...strange but true... I have no ill will toward you, I do however think the "lack of Rowand" argument is a crock of s***.

I do love it when the Gooch goes oppo. Is that 11 straight runs via HR? Or did they score some last night that I didn't see?

QUOTE(South Side Fireworks Man @ Sep 20, 2006 -> 08:52 PM) Same as Thome lately. Well Thome is capable of taking the occasional walk which Uribe NEVER does.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 20, 2006 -> 08:49 PM) I get a kick out of how people crap all over Anderson the rook, who has a .231 BA, who started out like crap, and has turned it on. Yet Captain Profundo over at SS, who has a 3 point advantage over BA, who is a vet. Whose BA has dropped year after year gets a free pass from fans and from our goofy manager. I see the lift and pull offense is in full effect, we score a bunch of runs last night, and now we are struggling to get hits again. This is so 2003/2004 of our offense. That right there is why he gets a free pass, the occasional pointless blast into the left field stands is worth a lot in some people's minds.

QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Sep 20, 2006 -> 08:45 PM) Somebody posted Rowand's batting average last august and september, it was around .230-.240. Don't forget his bonehead play game 2 of the WS. We aren't losing because we don't have Rowand. That's why people always bring up "intangables" with Rowand because the very definition of the word makes debate impossible.

QUOTE(whitesoxmanager @ Sep 20, 2006 -> 08:42 PM) IMO AROW's marked stamp on this club "will to win" is the missing piece to this club in the second half... And IMO you're certifiably insane.

QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Sep 20, 2006 -> 07:04 PM) If Buerhle really wants to pitch for the Cardinals, pick up his option and trade him there. Everyone is happy then, and we get a spot for B-Mac. The Cardinals don't have enough good young talent to even land Buehrle, there's much better trade partners out there than St. Louis.

You also have to turn on HTML which is just above the add reply button. Either of "raw break" or "auto break" will work just fine.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 20, 2006 -> 05:41 PM) You should add a ± 1.5 onto each of those average ages to account for Contreras. I originally had him down for 52 but the averages looked ridiculous and kind of depressed me so I went with the listed 35.

NAME AGE SALARY Garland 27 $10M Garcia 31 $10M Vazquez 30 $9.5M Buehrle 28 $9.5M Contreras 35 $9M McCarthy 24 $400K JC, MB, FG, JG, JV = $48M, 30.2 AVG. Age JC, MB, JG, JV, BM = $38.4M, 28.8 AVG. Age If the Sox keep the starting 5 intact and trade McCarthy, this rotation just gets older and more expensive.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Sep 20, 2006 -> 02:34 PM) Thanks. You're very welcome, I have a way with numbers.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Sep 20, 2006 -> 02:32 PM) Had both an 8-game and 9-game winning streak this year... Neither of those are 10 games.

QUOTE(letsgoarow @ Sep 20, 2006 -> 01:49 PM) how about last year in the playoffs and the last week that was like 16 of 17 or something like that The Sox won 5 straight to end the regular season last year, they then won the first 3 games in the playoffs only to lose the first game of the ALCS, so that's 8 straight. They then won another 8 straight to end the playoffs. So that's two 8 game win streaks, so yeah 16 of 17. I'm not sure the Sox have ever even won 10 straight games.

QUOTE(alexgtp @ Sep 20, 2006 -> 08:01 AM) Seems 50 % this board has stopped beleiving. And with good reason.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Sep 20, 2006 -> 01:54 PM) Yeah I think booing is a grand idea. The White Sox ownership finally opens it pockets tries to bring back to back championships (see Marlins for how a team could react to a WS title) and the fans are going to boo them. I see this going over real well. I hope you can sense the sarcasm. No one is booing ownership, the player's on the other hand deserve such treatment. It's great what JR has done this year and I don't think anyone blaims him for the colossal failure that is the 2006 season. Comming into the Oak and Det series the Sox seemingly had to win atleast 4 of 6 games to remain in the hunt. They however, went out with a wimper losing the first 4 games of the most crucial stretch of the season. The entire second half of the season has been this way all they had to do was play around .500 ball post allstar break and the Sox would easily win the division and they couldn't even do that.

QUOTE(sweatpants @ Sep 20, 2006 -> 12:33 PM) Not a Freddy fan, but he seems to be gaining it back. Anyone else notice he hit 93 quite a few times. I think that's the highest all year. Freddy's hit 93 in basically every game this season but it is only like once to three times a game, he's still sitting in the mid to upper 90's which is all that really matters seeing how he's been able to pop in the 90's for a few pitches a game all year.

QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Sep 20, 2006 -> 09:59 AM) I hate to invite abuse here but here goes: I'm not that down on Freddy. Sure he had a crappy first half but... I think he's just tired. I think a lot of them are. I'm not that eager to push him out the door. And (inviting more abuse here) I'm not that sold on McCarthy as our silver bullet. He's unproven at best. Here goes (inviting TOTAL abuse): I would leave the starters intact for next year. The only one that worries me is Buehrle because the fall-off from last year is so drastic. But I also think he's tired/injured too. Garcia did not have a crappy first half he had a crappy April, June, July and horrid August. Perhaps I just don't understand why a pitcher would suck for 5/6 of the season then when the season is all but over decide to add a new pitch, something that is appearantly helping him pitch with better success. Why the hell did he wait 5 and a half months to add a new pitch? I don't understand why he's getting so much credit for this when he should have been experimenting with new pitches earlier in the season when he was pitching like s*** and the games actually meant something. Appearantly Freddy Garcia is smarter than I give him credit for, he's managed to pitch like s*** for more than half the season then turn it on when it means nothing, saving his job next year. If he pitches like this in June and pitched now like he did in June the guy would have a one way ticket out of town.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Sep 19, 2006 -> 11:30 PM) I'll raise you Jorge Fabregas, Lyle Mouton and Mike Deveraux, Lee Stevens, Bernard Gilkey and Rusty Greer.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Sep 19, 2006 -> 11:14 PM) I wonder if the name Paul Sorrento has ever been uttered before on Soxtalk.... F.P. Santangelo, Rico Brogna and Chris Hoiles. Horray for bad 90's baseball players.