Kalapse

The Dirty Commie rides the pine pony with Ozzie Guillen III taking his spot in CF. Crede gets a second day to recover, Mack takes his spot. Iguchi gets a day off with Alex Cintron filling in at 2B.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 04:12 PM) What the hell is it with you and all the smilie posts? It's called spam.

QUOTE(Duck @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 04:24 PM) Despite all the talk about "throwing guys under the bus", Ozzie stuck with Anderson this year and he seems to have turned the corner (which is why Ozzie is now playing bad cop because he knows BA can take it), he insisted Garland extend himself in games in 2004 and 2005 and it's paid off big time. Well, if Ozzie stuck with Anderson and he has now seemingly turned the corner (including 2 hits yesterday) then why does he continue to platoon him in CF? Anderson goes 2-4 yesterday and yet he's benched in favor of Ryan Sweeney today. Wouldn't he want to sit back and enjoy the fruit of his labor and play Anderson everyday?

QUOTE(WCSox @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 01:00 PM) Well, I obviously don't have all of the positions covered. The Sox could certainly use a leadoff hitter, but there isn't a guy currently in the organization (besides Pods) who would fit that role. Iguchi would be the closest, IMO. Platooning Sweeney with Mackowiak would ease Sweeney into role and take pressure off of him, although it's not necessary. I don't see the problem with platooning two lefties as long as Gload is still on the bench. You'd be platooning 2 lefties who don't hit left hand pitching all that well so basically you're going with the automatic out against a left hand pitcher.

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 12:56 PM) HOW ABOUT THE SOX ACQUIRE A 4TH OUTFIELDER WHO CAN PLAY NUMEROUS OUTFIELD POSITIONS AND BAT RIGHTY!!!!! How great does Brady Clark's .363 OBP look right about now?

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 12:19 PM) Third -- notice how there are ZERO quotes (or very few) from Kenny Williams in this article? This writer is going on pure speculation, no factual basis. Oh, wait -- he's going by Ozzie's mouth. And I personally believe, that for every time Ozzie spouts off about Anderson not doing something well, Kenny has someone much smarter and much more rational in his other ear saying that Brian has saved however many runs over the average CFer defensively, and that he's been a much different player since June. The funniest thing about Ozzie's appearant hatred of Brian Anderson is that Kenny Williams seems feels the opposite way. He was on the Score with Offman and Rogers and basically said that Ozzie is handling Anderson all wrong and that he'd like to see him play everyday. Kenny had to go to Arizona for a few days just to clear his head and get away from all the bulls***, I think that's pretty telling right there IMO. QUOTE(Texsox @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 12:24 PM) Can we realize something here. We are talking about some guys that only a year or two ago were treated like gods and needed to be wrapped up in long term contracts. They were the can't miss HoFers. Now we have another group of guys that are can't miss HoFers and people are rushing into the lineup. And guess what, they'll be dog meat at some point also. Who are the current group of HOF that will soon be dog meat because if it's the players I think you're referring to, it already seems like a lot of people have jumped straight to the dogmeat already.

QUOTE(TaylorStSox @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 12:03 PM) I'm still not convinced McCarthy will be any better than an average 5th starter next year. We have to find some speed somewhere. The only 2 viable positions are LF and SS. I wouldn't mind seeing Pierre in left. He does get on base, steal bases and cover alot of ground. He's better than Pods. If we fill SS with a speed guy and start Sweeney in left, we might have a shortage of guys who can drive the ball. 1.) Pierre does not get on base he had a .329 OBP in '05 and a .333 OBP this year that is absolutely terrible for a leadoff man. Not to mention the fact that he was nowhere to be found for the first few months of the season. 2.) He is a pretty bad defensive player who, like Podsednik, uses his above average speed to make up for a lack of defensive ability. He also has one of the 3 worst arms in the history of major league baseball, he makes Pods look like freaking Roberto Clemente in that regard. 3.) Just because he might be slightly better (SLIGHTLY) than Scott Podsednik does not mean he should be playing for this team, that would be settling for mediocrity again and I'm sick of seeing it. All I want next year from my LF/Leadoffman is someone who can play a little D with an above average arm and a .360+ OBP. 4.) Juan Pierre is bad. He's also bad and when it comes to playing baseball he is not good at it. 5.) He's going to get more money than he is worth because people think he's an excellent leadoff hitter due to his speed, I do not want to give a s***ty player $6-$8M a year over 4/5 years that money could be spent better elsewhere on players who are good at baseball. 6.) Even in all his suckiness he's never played in the AL, imagine how far that .333 OBP could dip once he shows up in the superior league, we could be looking at a .300 OBP leadoff hitter. 7.) Juan Pierre sucks at life.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 11:51 AM) The only argument I might see for trading Vaz and keeping Garcia is that Vaz might have higher trade value if he closes out this season well. Well, and Vaz is a little more expensive. With both of them, basically if you keep either of them, you're hoping for the best next season. You're hoping that a longer offseason and it being a contract year gives Garcia reason to find his fastball again, or you're hoping that Vaz has actually turned a corner and can at least give you 6 quality innings in most games next year if you're careful with him. I'm not sure I'm confident in either of those statements. So if someone's willing to throw a top 20 prospect at me for Vazquez but not Garcia, I jump on the deal. No matter what I want Garcia gone after this season, even if you can get something of great value for Vazquez I'd rather see both of them go as opposed to keeping Garcia and trading Vazquez. Garcia has proven this year that he's just a s*** teammate and that he'll likely never be a dominant starting pitcher in the American League again.

The amount of people who would rather keep Garcia over Vazquez is appalling.

QUOTE(Wealz @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 12:18 AM) Read what you've written if you don't know what you are. Sexy?

QUOTE(Wealz @ Sep 8, 2006 -> 12:11 AM) Everyone who reads these threads knows what you are (misspellings and all.) You're comfortable with that so I have no issue with you on a personal level. Haha, what am I? Just curious.

QUOTE(Wealz @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 11:59 PM) I read often enough to know you don't understand the game. This comming from the guy who's never seen a negative Buehrle thread, you can't be all that perceptive then.

QUOTE(Wealz @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 11:57 PM) Guillen gets raked over every day on this site while Anderson, Buehrle and the like get a free ride. Damn, you REALLY don't read that often do you?

QUOTE(The Critic @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 08:08 PM) No, pulling into a virtual tie with the Tigers and Twins would be awful. You're assuming the Sox sweep the Indians which I just don't see happening. The best case scenerio would be a Tigers sweep. Tigers Sweep Sox Sweep: 3.5 game lead in the WC, 4.5 GB in the division Tigers Sweep Sox get Swept: .5 GB in the WC, 8.5 GB in the division Twins Sweep Sox Sweep: .5 GB in the WC, .5 GB in the division Twins Sweep Sox get Swept: 4.5 GB in the WC, 4.5 GB in the division Now these are only the best and worst case scenerios for both situations but it does show how a Tigers sweep would be the best scenerio of the 2 simply because the worst case scenerio is not THAT devastating.

QUOTE(The Critic @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 07:20 PM) No offense intended to you as a Tigers fan, but I'd love to see the Twins and Sox sweep their series this weekend, just to make the Central a complete clusterf*** for the last 3 weeks of the season. That wouldn't exactly help the Sox now would it?

Tigers currently up 3-0 on the Twins in the top of the 2nd . . . the sweep is underway.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 06:44 PM) BTW, great night for Sports Comcast-Sox ESPN2-Tigers-Twins NBC-Steelers-Dolphins... All of which should be in HD, along with a 'meh' college game on ESPN.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 06:24 PM) It's sort of surprising to see how many people want Vaz gone OVER Freddy. I guess that much doesnt surprise me anymore on Soxtalk, but.... It kind of reminds me of the whole Jim Thome "clutchiness"/"he stole the small ball" situation.

QUOTE(WCSox @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 06:13 PM) Agreed on Garland. But as for the rest, Vazquez has sucked for most of the season, Contreras and Buehrle have been maddeningly inconsistent (and possibly injured), and Freddy's arm is about to fall off. Vazquez has been pretty good for 3 months and horrid for 2, so he has not sucked for most of the season, he's actually been pretty good for a majority of the year. ERAs by Month: April: 3.67 May: 3.99 June: 7.50 July: 6.82 August: 3.41 September: 1.13

QUOTE(beck72 @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 06:11 PM) Reason #1 why Mack is in LF vs. Lee: 4 for 6 lifetime http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp...=4&sort=avg The lack of a starting LFer and leadoff man, maybe. But the lack of a 4th Ofer has cost the sox few games this yr compared to the lack of production at the top of the lineup. Well if a lack of a 4th OF has cost the Sox even 1 game this season then that is in fact why they are .5 back in WC race as opposed to .5 up on the Twins.

QUOTE(beck72 @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 06:02 PM) Nothing that interesting. Just a show of support for the sox making the playoffs when they were sliding. Still time to sign up [anytime up to the clinch date of getting the division or wild card]. The lack of a decent 5th OFer is not the reason the sox find themselves 1/2 game out of making the playoffs. 4th OF and it very well could be.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 05:12 PM) Why do threads constantly suck now? Because you havn't started one in 6 months.

When the Twins looked like they were basically done and the offense had gone to s***, Justin Morneau was the one who stepped it up and went on an absolute tear. His season stats may not be is eye-popping as the rest but when the Twins needed it the most Justin Morneau came up huge and helped a team that seemed to be dead in the water climb back into the playoff race.

Buehlre and Garcia especially have been absolutely HORRID against the Indians this year, Garcia has an 11+ ERA vs them so that oughta be fun. Vaz on the other hand has dominated the Tribe with a 2-0 record, 1.53 ERA, 1.25 WHIP, .221 BAA, 20:7 K:BB and has not allowed a HR to them this season. At this point Garland is the best pitcher in the rotation and I have faith that he can shutdown any team he faces right now so I won't even bother checking his season stats Vs the Injuns.

QUOTE(longshot7 @ Sep 7, 2006 -> 01:55 PM) Twins throwing some real dogs in this Tigers series, so my money's on Det taking 2 of 3. It's a 4 game set. Also, Garza has the ability to shut down the Tigers offense especially with the way they've been playing of late, Boof Bonser has been outstanding since being recalled from AAA on August 9th and Johan Santana is the best pitcher in the game. I wouldn't exactly call them dogs.