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Thank god Widger is catching for Garcia today, he's studly with that guy behind the plate.
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Granny!
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I love how Comcast has an HD feed when the Cubs/Sox are playing in Cincy, it makes absolutely no sense.
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QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Jun 16, 2006 -> 06:14 PM) Wow, a Paulie chant. They must still like him. There's a s*** load of Sox fans there.
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QUOTE(Jimbo @ Jun 16, 2006 -> 05:23 PM) Good info, then why pods?? I have absolutely no idea. He's hitting .178 against lefties and and .136 in June. Also pablo has a 1.112 OPS in 50 ABs vs lefties this season.
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QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jun 16, 2006 -> 05:20 PM) Brian is obviously going deep tonite. Just like Gload and his 3 hits one of which being a HR? QUOTE(Jimbo @ Jun 16, 2006 -> 05:20 PM) Why the widge again?? It could have something to do with Freddy's great success with Widge behind the plate. Claussen is also a lefty and left hand hitters are batting .151 against him.
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QUOTE(Melissa1334 @ Jun 16, 2006 -> 05:11 PM) [/color][/b] ........ Actually you can include Podsednik in there as well.
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Wow, 2 straight days of Widger and before you wrongfully attack the Widge for being an awful catcher you should first know that Freddy has an ERA somwhere in the 1's when Widger catches him.
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QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 16, 2006 -> 04:53 PM) Upton, Young...man they're gonna have one hell of a character team in Tampa in a few years. Don't forget god ol' Elijah Dukes.
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QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Jun 16, 2006 -> 03:15 PM) One is a leader, wants to win, preaches team unity and togetherness, and luvs and wants to stay with his team...yep, good comparison... I'm not talking about overall situations because right now those are completely different but Ozzie seems to have the right now to act as childish and outlandish as he wants because 1.) They won the World Series 2.) The team is winning 3.) People seem to love this sort of behavior for whatever reason. He and Manny get a free pass for thier own brand of immaturity because they get the job done. Manny being Manny, Ozzie being Ozzie.
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QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Jun 16, 2006 -> 03:01 PM) The crux of his column was that he was speculating that the team is getting tired of Ozzie...But as long as there are no legitimate signs of this and the team keeps winning cohesively, I say Ozzie can keep being Ozzie... Finally, I've been waiting for someone, somewhere to use that line. He's now officially Manny Ramirez, as long as he hits .300 and pops 40 dongs a season he can climb into the Green Monster all he wants, afterall it's just Manny being Manny.
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QUOTE(Allsox @ Jun 16, 2006 -> 02:35 PM) Pods may be bad in the OF but Pablo makes him look like Torii Hunter out there. And you said it yourself: "He's not a starter but he's so damn perfect off the bench" Good, let's keep Pablo that way and let Pods right himself. When Scotty's on, he's a much better player than Pablo Ozuna in the leadoff spot for the Sox. Right now Pablo Ozuna is a better hitter than Podsednik, it's awful tough to keep trotting Pods out there and watch him suck while Pablo just sits on the bench with his magic wand or justice. And in terms of defense it's really who's the tallest midget out there.
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QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jun 16, 2006 -> 02:32 PM) I got slammed so much last year commenting how Pods was not all that good. People are going to love him no matter how poorly he plays, I'm not sure if it's the Scotty the Hotty thing or maybe they just don't know how he compares to other leadoff hitters around the league.
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QUOTE(chitownsportsfan @ Jun 16, 2006 -> 02:30 PM) We really should just open up a "Scott Podsednik Discussion" thread, because I'm pretty sure we could debate this all season. I think Pods is pretty damn average. Average or mediocre. There's too many damn stats to prove to many damn points. There will also always be a group of people who will defend him with their lives. Mainly because he has a cute little ass.
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QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jun 16, 2006 -> 02:24 PM) I've never been a fan of Pods, but I've never seen a guy go from must have to must get rid of faster on this board for really no drop-off in performance. In fact his performance may even be better this season, at least offensively. His OBP is only .008 lower than last season, even after his recent slump. His slugging percentage and OPS are both higher. He has only scored 35 less runs than he did all of last season, and is only 5 short of his entire RBI total from 2005. I can't see where you can say he was great last year and bad this season. I don't think there's anyone who thinks he was great last year and bad this year. There's many a person who felt he was mediocre during last season as well.
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What purpose has it even served since being closed? When I went up there last year to see a Sox Tigers game it was like half destroyed already with grafiti all over the outer walls.
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QUOTE(chitownsportsfan @ Jun 16, 2006 -> 02:15 PM) His career OPS+ of 67? His career OBP of .307? He's caught lighting in a bottle so far, I'll give him that. But he has proven himself a brutal hitter in his career. My hope is that Ozuna continues his hot hand, but I'm not expecting it. Pablo has been a great bench payer for this team since spring training of last year, I could honestly care less what he did in 111 ABs with 2 different franchises over the course of 3 seasons before '05. In 203 ABs last year and so far through 75 ABs this year the guy has been amazing, he's not a starter but he's so damn perfect off the bench. There isn't a team in the league who wouldn't want him on their bench right now. QUOTE(Allsox @ Jun 16, 2006 -> 02:17 PM) I'm not sure what exactly Pods is doing to hurt the team other than being in a slump and his defense we all knew wasn't the best last yr so it shouldn't be a shock to anyone. And I'm just being realistic when I say Pablo isn't an everyday starter for a reason. That reason is because the Sox have better players to put out there on a daily basis than him. I recommend you read some of the other posts in this thread, like I said before Pods was pathetic in LF last year, "not the best" is a major understatement, and it seems so far this season that he's gotten even worse out there. He's been in a slump for all but a few weeks this season, that's one hell of slump righ there. Pablo might not be a starter but he's blowing Pods out of the f***ing water right now with his bat and no matter how bad he's been defensively it's tough to be any worse than Podsednik.
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QUOTE(Allsox @ Jun 16, 2006 -> 02:01 PM) There's a reason Pablo isn't starting more than twice a week and that's cuz his defense is really brutal. Yes, he's hot right now but once teams figure out he likes to shoot the other way, they'll pitch him inside. I don't mean to downplay Pablo cuz he's an excellent sub but the holy praise going around here for him and raggin on Pods for his slump is Cub fanish :banghead Or maybe it's being realistic, Pablo is 32-75 on the season and has been incredibly clutch. The guy is ridiculously fast, a great baserunner and a pretty good contact hitter who plays completely balls out in every way possible he blows defensively but that has more to do with the fact that he's a damn infielder playing in LF, what isn't there to love abot the guy? And like I said before, what Pods is doing right now is more than a slump.
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QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jun 16, 2006 -> 01:57 PM) What wrong with the good ole' "Avg: ____ OBP: _____ HR _____ RBI _____." ? Because he's using splits and HRs and RBIs aren't going to be all that useful when talking about American League pitchers (with the exception of Vazquez).
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QUOTE(chitownsportsfan @ Jun 16, 2006 -> 01:51 PM) OPS is the last stat you look at? I'd take Ricky Henderson as my prototypical leadoff hitter, and he could slug a little. And OBP comprises the more important (for a leadoff) part of OPS, so I wouldn't say it's that low on the list of stats. I'd say BA is the least important stat. OBP is where it's at for a leadoff, and I'd easily take a .250/360/425 line with say a 75% successful steal percentage, out of my leadoff man. Otherwise, I agree with everything you said about Pods. Ricky Henderson is the greatest leadoff man in the history of baseball, he did everything well, including power. However, he is the exception to the rule. When you have a leadoff man you're not looking at his SLG%, what do I care if he's hitting HRs or triples (2 best ways to raise your SLG). If I'm going to look at my leadoff man I want a high OBP (his .401 career mark is beyond great) but I dont care about SLG so what use do I have for SLG% so what use do I have for OPS? I'd rather just look at his OBP. 75% is ok, I'd prefer maybe a Beltran or Abreu type rate but 75% is definately passable. A .350 OBP on the other had is less than stellar, that's mediocre in the current state of the AL seeing how he's not even ranked in the top 50% of leadoff hitters in the American League in OBP.
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QUOTE(SoxFan76 @ Jun 16, 2006 -> 01:43 PM) Ahh, we got another smart ass on our hands. Is this part of the initiation process or what? I feel like I'm arguing with my little brother. Seems like you enjoy arguing more than having a civilized discussion. What about this confused you: Perhaps you don't understand the definition of hyperbole?
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QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 16, 2006 -> 01:44 PM) OBP is key, like I said. And he is around .350 while in a slump. It was .400 earlier this year. And he hasn't been in a slump for 2/3 of the year. If he was in a slump, say a .136 BA, for 2/3 of the year, that would mean he was hitting .478 the other third of the year to get you a .250 BA that he has (using approximations). I don't think he was THAT hot in May. How exactly is a .233 BA and a .281 OBP in April not a slump? Or maybe his 53 point free fall in BA since May 16 isn't a slump. I know he's not that good but that's just pathetic hitting. He sucked in April and he's been struggling since mid May which is when his BA began to freefall. That's actually more than 2/3 of the season.
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QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 16, 2006 -> 01:41 PM) I labeled my columns, I figured that would suffice. I can't really predict what everyone expects. Besides... slugging pct for a pitcher didn't seem worth even writing down... I'm just saying, that's where you confused him.
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QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 16, 2006 -> 01:38 PM) Batting average for a leadoff man is not terribly relevant. OBP, and maybe OPS, are better measures, and he is right in line with last year on those (a bit higher on OPS, a bit lower on OBP). And that is when he is in the midst of a slump. Offensively, the guy is just fine for now. He'll get hot again and his numbers will be well above last year. Now defense is another matter. He needs a lot of work out there - he does sometimes look like he has regressed. Um, actually when grading a leadoff man the last stat you look at is OPS, all you really care about is if he's getting hits and walks, SLG% is irrelevant making OPS a pretty meaningless stat for a guy hitting first. His OBP is mediocre, it was last year too, just because it's near what he did last season does not make it good. He's been in a slump for 2/3 of the season now also.
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QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 16, 2006 -> 01:12 PM) Where did you get .650? Its .498, unless I wrote it down wrong. When you type out splits you usually go ba/obp/slg/ops
