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QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 4, 2006 -> 05:21 PM) I think BMAC will be a good pitcher, I really do. But his stuff makes me nervous sometimes. Rock he is the first prospect that has shown flashes of brilliance in a long time from the pitching prospect level. We need to save some money somewhere on this team so we can spend it in other places. His performance last year against Cleveland, his back to back starts against the Redsox and the Rangers in 05, and his start at home in 05 against the twins where he pitched his ass off against either Santana or Liriano and shut the twinks down. For Bmac he will be as good as his location is on his change. If his change is working then he can dominate. If he cant locate the change then he is meat.

QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Dec 4, 2006 -> 02:49 PM) lol thats the qoute of the day because its pretty much true. Many White Sox fans have wanted Rowand back since May and we have been talking about getting him back ever since. You have to admit, he may not be the the most talented, or even a better athlete than than Anderson, but he works his ass off and White Sox fans appreciate that. He loves the White Sox and loves White Sox fans. How can you not miss a guy like him?? Getting Rowand back won't neccessarily garuntee us a division title, but it does garuntee us that our defense will be pretty solid out in CF and RF. Getting Rowand back may also help Pods game, Rowand helped Pods defense when he was here and Pods helped Rowands base running. Im all for getting Rowand back. Anderson had more range than Rowand had. Prancers issues with his defense in LF had nothing to do with his lack of Rowand in CF. It had more to do with bringing his crappy bat and baserunning blunders out onto the field with him. Rowand right now hits better than Anderson, and that is about where it ends. Anderson is a better fielder than Rowand. Anderson is faster than Rowand. Anderson has a better arm than Rowand. Hopefully Rowand learned how to hit a slider in his travels, or he will be exposed like he was in the 2nd half of 05.

So did anyone in Philly teach him how to hit a slider yet. Maybe we can get some of that .245 in August, and .235 BA in Sept magic back from the season of dreams.

QUOTE(bmags @ Dec 4, 2006 -> 01:46 PM) i'd like to see the infomercial of the exhasperated consumer struggling put on his condom with the toaster going off and flour everywhere. Now its just the touch of a button!

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Dec 4, 2006 -> 10:46 AM) I think you should write a Letter to the Editor if you're so upset over the treatment of Mr. Ford. So let me get this straight, You post an article claiming that someone that I worked with before is crooked. I post a reply saying I worked there and have first hand knowledge of the workings of the office, a point of view that is unique. You refute it by making blanket statement and then tell me I should write a letter to the editor. I keep forgetting you are so young. I hope you are just as understanding and flippant later in life when someone attacks your ethics and character.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Dec 3, 2006 -> 07:39 PM) Hard working doesn't make you a good man. Ford may well have been a good friend of yours back in the day but his ethics and his judgement appear to be faulty. And you know what? It doesn't surprise me. People are crooked. I am glad that you made up your mind from a silly article, and not take reference from a person who worked in that office first hand for 7 years. He is not my friend, he was someone that I worked with. In my 7 years of being in that office I saw only hard working, ethical people who worked hard for the citizens of cook county, making a crapload less than your average lawyer. But forget what I said, and just read a slighted article in a newspaper because if it is in print it must be true. Here is the quote from the article. “There is no indication that Judge Ford was aware of this conflict or that he was motivated or biased in his decision,” McBride wrote. Suppose he wasn’t aware. Did Judge Ford, known to some courthouse regulars as “Quick Nick,” read the petition so hastily that no bells rang? Nice cute nickname. Uh actual he is not known as quick nick, probably some Public Defender or defense attorney gave him that cute nickname probably one of the sources of this article. The case loads are high as an ASA, so if you think that he was aware of this and still ruled on this whatever. Uh yes there could be times in the thousands of cases that a trial lawyer goes through that the endless line of defendants that you see, you may not recogize a name and say Eureka, that is Bob from 1991, the case at 10am on a Friday.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Dec 3, 2006 -> 11:30 PM) I may be wrong, but I think that episode was a few weeks after the bomb went off. It is impossible to know how you would react in that situation. At that point you might just want to give your kids a fun normal night. Well at least with the kids glowing in the dark, they will be easily seen from the road. Nuclear Weapons promote safety!!!!

I watch the show. The online piece is bad. They could of done so much more with it online, the webumentary piece. Some of the human reactions are not too realistic. I see a mushroom cloud and think there is a nuclear war going on and I dont think I am taking my kid out trick or treating.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Dec 2, 2006 -> 05:56 PM) This article that I posted is a Sequel to the Police Torture Story the Chicago Reader did a long time ago. It's ridiculous. http://www.chicagoreader.com/features/stories/blindjustices/ God, damn, do I hate it when authority figures of any sort abuse their power, and this is just ridiculous. I worked for the SAO during this time. I have worked with these guys, and I can say that the men and women of the SAO are some of the hardest working people you will ever run into. These are people of character, and I learned a lot how to be the professional that I am today. Nick Ford is good hard working lawyer. I dont know how he is as a judge. Do you realize the shear amount of cases that the average SAO ASA goes through during their tenure? Only a few memorable cases or a few repeat offenders make the memory list. How many Walkers are in the Cook County Jail right now, how many are in Prison. Do you think that is a name he might of run into. I doubt knowing Nick that this was some sort of coverup or him being above the law. Defendant PC motions happen all the time. If he was aware of this type of conflict he would of reccused himself. And linking everything to the Burge crap. Do you want to know how the SAO works with the Chicago police. You get an officer that you make talk on to phone to get some info on the police report, they are called in for an interview, and then after that they come in for appearances and for trial cases. That is it. Its not like there is a bond and they hang out. Its not like the TV shows. Judges are a mix. A good attorney doesnt make you a good judge. You have some judges that are pro-defense, and you have some that are pro-prosecution. Its the nature of being human. If you want a robot then invest in it.

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Dec 1, 2006 -> 10:16 PM) Really, given how Ozzie apparently feels about McCarthy: and his obvious dislike for Anderson, I wonder if the Sox wouldn't be better off trading them both. I know it's foolish to trade young major league pitching, and trading Anderson now would be selling low. But given who the manager is, and his obvious disdain for both players...maybe the Sox would better off doing it. BA, McCarthy, MacDougal, and Broadway might be enough for the DRays to trade Carl Crawford. Honestly, given KWs history of making big trades, his repeated public stance that McCarthy is untouchable, I wonder if he's just driving up the price. So you want to trade young good pitching, so we can get more hitting. Welcome to the 2004-2000 Whitesox. Maybe we can spend 130 million and have medicore pitching and finish 4th.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Dec 1, 2006 -> 08:12 PM) Err, I said that. I said, if we can get some good youthful pitching in a trade, then do it, but if we can't get something good then keep the five. Enjoy your useless draft pick compensation then.

QUOTE(VAfan @ Dec 1, 2006 -> 02:35 PM) "Barring a trade making sense for the White Sox in the present and helping in the future, Williams will bring his same starting five to Spring Training in Tucson in February. " I was going to start a separate post on this point, but I'll confine my comments to this thread for the moment. I see no reason why the Sox should make moves this offseason unless they will help the team make another run at a World Series in 2007. I don't think we should sell out for 2007, but I also don't see dumping skilled veterans to embark on some rebuilding plan that will clearly weaken our team next year. That's one huge reason why I thought the Crede+Garcia for Figgins+Santana deal made no sense for us. We could significantly weaken our team going into next season without appreciably helping us in the long run. Now, if the right deal came along for Vazquez -- and I don't think any deals for pitchers will materialize until the FA pitching market is settled and all the major arms are signed -- I think it would make sense to move him. But that's because I believe replacing Vazquez with McCarthy in 2007 would help us NEXT YEAR. You must love draft picks, because if we dont resign Buerhle or Garcia for jackpot money that is what we are getting. Remember we are at 100million already, if you think we are going north of 130 to resign every favorite player you are mad.

These quotes from one of the websites that have some of these pics are pretty funny.

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Dec 1, 2006 -> 04:21 PM) So you are saying that Iguchi is being shoe-horned into the #2 hole? You think he's a leadoff hitter? I think not. He's a #6 or #7 hitter. This signing is called covering your a**. We DO need OBP guys and Gload is that guy, but we also have pitchers that pitch to contact, we know what we have in Pods...maybe it's not great, but we know what it is. Gload has NEVER played LF for an extended period of time. 2.9 mil for one year isn't a big deal especially for what FA are signing for. Pods is horrible in LF. Ozuna is almost better than him, and that is saying a lot. I think Gload will give you the same bad defense that Pods gives you in LF, except that Gload can hit, Gload can hit lefties, and Gload is easily something we need in front of the thumpers, someone that can get on with his stick and have a good OBP.

QUOTE(VAfan @ Dec 1, 2006 -> 03:33 PM) Pods RC27 number -- 3.88 -- ranks him among the worst qualifiers in baseball last year. Of course, this wasn't the worst figure on the team. While we're at it, why not look at the whole team. We averaged 5.35 runs/game. Who upped the average, and who lowered it? Our fabulous 3 Jim Thome = 9.15 Jermaine Dye = 8.77 Paul Konerko = 7.53 More than pulled their weight Ross Gload = 6.03 Ozuna = 5.83 Joe Crede = 5.70 Almost average AJ = 5.21 Iguchi = 5.26 Mack = 5.31 Offensive deadweights Brian Anderson 3.35 Juan Uribe 3.69 Pods 3.88 Cintron 4.24 No one else had even 100 plate appearances. So what conclusions should we draw from this?? Re-signing Pods for even $2.9 million is a lack of foresight and a mistake. Ross Gload should be our starting left fielder next season -- with Mackowiak backing him up -- unless someone can emerge that can hit nearly as well as he can and field better than he can. Ross Gload created 6 runs/game last year. And the other year he got more than 150 ABs, he created 6.41 runs/game. That is pretty damn good, considering Joe Crede comes in at 5.70 runs/game. It wouldn't put him among the LF leaders in this category, but it would be respectable. And Iguchi followed by Gload followed by Dye would be so much better than Pods/Iguchi/Dye that it wouldn't be funny. Gload is a prototypical #2 hitter -- high average, low strike outs, left handed, bunts well, hits lefties and righties equally well -- whereas Iguchi is being shoe-horned into that role. But I've given up hope that logic will prevail here. Ozzie Guillen has to be chirping in KW's ear about needing speed, speed, speed. To hell with speed. With Dye/Thome/Konerko being the best 3-4-5 in baseball, just get someone ON ahead of them. We dont agree on a lot, however I entirely agree with this. Ross Gload should be our LF and hitting 2nd. With Tad leading off. Prancer should not see the light of day, he should be a pinch runner at best.

QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Dec 1, 2006 -> 01:09 PM) With below average hitting and pitching, it kind of makes one wonder how we won 90 games. It also makes me wonder if we should expect better from the 2007 team if we essentially stand pat. Well, the offseason is far from over... After the allstar break we went into lift and pull mode as a team. AJ went from hitting well over 300, to hitting in the low 200s. He was the most telling on changing his approach at the plate. Something needs to be done about this teams lack of smarts in the 2nd half when the pressure gets on, and the temp heats up. Every person we bring to this team, becomes Mr. Homer. The part plays to home run strenghts that is true, but you dont need to become a lift and pull hitter to get that to happen. If you put a good swing on the ball, it will carry out. You dont need to hit it 400 feet to have it leave. Yet everytime in crucial situations, we had hitters swinging for the fences, How many times did we see AJ who was clutch all 1st half, falling over trying to hit a dong when all we needed was a single to drive in the run from second. If this team hits what is given to them, they can lead the league in offense. If they get into pull only mode, then every single team just like the last few years will start featuring only low and away pitching and will shut this team down. Remember the formula for years was throw low and away and bounce a breaking ball in the opposing batters box and you will 2 hit the team through the 5th inning.

Great another year of Prancer. Just what I needed to see. He will never get subbed unless its a tough lefty, because Ozzie loves his diminutive speed guys with no tools up at the top. The only thing worse would be to sign Timo Perez.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Nov 30, 2006 -> 01:36 PM) I love the KW translators, gives me a good chuckle. The KW giggle is the real giveaway.

QUOTE(supernuke @ Nov 29, 2006 -> 09:19 PM) I get the feeling that Ozzie isn't thrilled with Bmac so Kenny is looking at Santana to make Bmac expendable. I would have no problem seeing Bmac sent to the D-rays for Crawford but I think TB will be looking for a package that is at least the equivilant of what the Yanks got for Sheffield. If we get rid of a cheap good pitcher because Ozzie isnt too thrilled, then Ozzie needs to be canned along with anyone who listened to him. I guess everyone just really wants the good ol days, when we had a great offense and so so pitching. Yeah maybe we can keep fighting the royals for 5th in a few years with that mentality. f*** Crawford, get pitching pitching and more pitching. What in the name of god do you think that he is going to do when he gets into the cell. Do you really thing he wont go for hte long ball. Come one, your fast, great all around player will bulk up and become another corner OF.

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Nov 29, 2006 -> 04:28 PM) So, he's a nutjob. Established. But he's an established nutjob with a good point in this letter. Here is another nutjob, a bit before most of our time. He made similiar wonderful nice speeches about being friends of his neighbor, and how he wanted peace. Very similiar to what the Iranian nutjob is doing right now.

QUOTE(Vance Law @ Nov 28, 2006 -> 10:02 PM) At least Chavez didn't win the Gold Gl..........Chavez won the Gold Glove. Nice. http://baseballmusings.com/ Boras has this in Crede's future prospectus file for his Free Agency bidding process.

QUOTE(South Side Fireworks Man @ Nov 28, 2006 -> 10:10 PM) Everyone wants (should want) cheap quality pitching. Annibal Sanchez young cheap quality Josh Johnson young cheap quality Dontrell young not so cheap, but could get a kings ransom if they spin him this year Then there is petit, olsen, and the rest of their army of young cheap arms. This is one of the organizations that has a bevy of what everyone wants. Where they lack is in position player development. They spin pitchers off for position players. Which is what they will do with Dontrell. Now on the other hand this is a team for sale, why would they send of arguably their best offensive player, who is still affordable.

QUOTE(South Side Fireworks Man @ Nov 28, 2006 -> 10:02 PM) OK, here's what the Sox do: KW trades Garcia and Crede to the Angels for Figgins and Santana. Then he flips Santana along with Fields and Anderson to the Marlins for Miguel Cabrera. Figgins in Left, Sweeney in Center and Dye in Right along with Cabrera at Third, Uribe at Short, Iguchi at Second and Konerko at First. Pierzynski Catches and Thome at DH. McCarthy moves into the rotation. Sox get faster, younger, cheaper and arguably better. You realize that the Marlins are swimming in cheap pitching right now. So they really dont want Santana.

QUOTE(TheBigHurt @ Nov 28, 2006 -> 09:33 PM) Yeah, I know. I realize this. I guess it's just a hard dose of reality trying to set in. I want to see Figgins, but IMO, he's no comparison at all to Crede in terms of value to our club. He's been a key component , and call me pessimistic, but I can't see the Sox doing nearly as well without him. The sox give fair offers to their players, however guys like Boras always and I mean always go with the highest bidder. So lets just say if Boras was representing Kong last year and we went to FA, Konerko would be having a banner season as Palmero's replacement in Baltimore.

QUOTE(TheBigHurt @ Nov 28, 2006 -> 09:17 PM) I want to see Figgins, but I don't want to see Crede or Freddy go, honestly. I could deal with seeing Freddy go, but frankly, and call me stubborn if you want, I am against any trade that has the name "Crede" strapped to it, and I don't care what anyone says. I'd hope there would be some way to get Figgins without giving up Joe. Maybe trade Freddy and simply put B-Mac in the rotation as apparently is planned. Well with what money praytell are you going to pay Joe when Boras gets him to Free Agency. Take a look at the contracts. Konerko will be asking Joe for a loan when all is said and done. Well that is if he keeps playing like this, if he goes back to being Joe who hits 240 to 250 then pretty much you turned down a top flight pitcher for medicore with good defense, or you get a nice 1st round draft pick from a team that is probably a world series contender so basically all the good stuff is gone.