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QUOTE(CYGarland @ Aug 21, 2006 -> 07:32 PM) looks like the Tigers hitters figured out how to hit our starters, take 2 strikes than swing at the meatball coming after that. Remember when Contreras was an ace. Keep throwing away to the tigers on 2 strikes. Our team doesnt scout at all.

Does our team actually scout the other team. Why would you throw Pudge an away pitch. He loves to go to right field. Hey look, Cotts is a 8th inning pitcher, and our good lefty Thornton is now a scrub pitching in the 6th. Ozzie needs to figure out there bullpen roles.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Aug 21, 2006 -> 07:29 PM) Uribe would have made that play easy Well considering our starting 9 from opening day plays in about 22% of the games, we may see it at least once this series.

I see the pull and lift offense is in full effect. Clear your hips, make sure you dip your back shoulder, and then extend. The official swing of your 2001-2004 and now back by popular demand....2006 Whitesox. Our offense this year actually did hit line drives. Then the allstar break happened. And our guys are now pull and lift homer or nothing machines.

QUOTE(Wanne @ Aug 21, 2006 -> 04:41 PM) Like I said...I don't know how he's gotten by with a torn rotator cuff and all. His fastball tops out at what...85 now. He rely's strictly on location of a curveball, his 85 mph fastball and changeups that range from 75 to 80mph...that and cortisone. We have 2 guys in our rotation that fit that bill. And they are both healthy .

QUOTE(beck72 @ Aug 21, 2006 -> 03:50 PM) Detroit's recent slide seems an awful lot like Boston's. Some of their weaknesses are now coming out when they play against a good ball club [and Texas isn't half the team the Yankees are]. And the young players who carried them so far now seem to be hitting a wall. I know 5 1/2 and 6 1/2 games are a lot to make up for both teams. But the Sox seem to match up a lot better vs. Detroit than Minny. I don't see the Twins fading at all. But the Tigers run seems to be coming to a halt. The sox take care of the Tigers and they're right back into it. Minny keeps on winning and has an easier rest of the yr than most teams. IIRC, the Twins play only 20 or so games vs. teams with a winning record. As long as Detroit fades--and the sox 4 game series starting today can do a lot of damage to Detroit's chances---I don't care about the Twins. Even with their injuries, the Twins keep plugging away and don't seem to be fading one bit. As long as the sox win 2 of 3 the rest of the way [i believe the sox are on just that pace from the run vs the Yanks, Tigers and Twins--6-3 overall], the sox should get into the playoffs regardless of what the Tigers and Twins do. But I will root for the Tigers to lose every game the rest of the way. I hope to god that the Twins dont make the playoffs. If dont matchup well with them at all.

QUOTE(Hangar18 @ Aug 21, 2006 -> 10:11 AM) Heres the thing ...... Do we want this particular team, playing the way they are, in the playoffs? The answer to this question, is yes. I want any of my whitesox teams in the playoffs. Once you are in, anything can happen. Its about who is the hottest over a 3 week period.

Its too late to fret on what could of happened this year. We need our pitchers to pitch better, and our O to score more runs than our pitchers give up. We have the lead in the WC. But we need to hit, pitch and play better or we are screwed. Once in the playoffs anything can happen. We just need to fight, claw and get into them. I figure we have a 3 to 4 year window on a championship here due to our star players age and contract status. We need to work on the following next year to make up for some of the problems we see this year. We have the talent its just fundamentals that are killing us. Here are thing we need to work on in ST next year, and should of worked on this year because they obviously have these massive issues with these small parts of the game that create big innings more than a single error, or a specific play. Next ST someone needs to teach all of the whitesox players on how to hit the cutoff man, and also which bag is appropriate to throw to in what situation. Our throws cause more problems than the Paul Koneko error did in that inning. The safe play is to hit the cutoff man, and make sure the trailer stays at first. It keeps the double play in order, and keeps another runner out of scoring position. All year long I have seen OF make throw after throw allowing the trailer to advance. Its maddening. In ST we need to work on better 2 strike pitches. Focus on a waste pitch. Grooving 0-2 or 1-2 pitches that get hit hard are a killer. Maybe a sports psychologist to discuss with our pitchers on how not to melt down when something out of their control happens behind them. No pouting, stomping of the feet, destruction of private property when the following happens. A infielder doesnt make a play, a walk on a close pitch, a bug flies to close, someone farted, the umpire looks at you funny. All year long we have seen pitcher after pitcher throw little fits and then a big inning. What happened to pitching over it, picking your teammates up. Bunting practice. We need to teach our guys how to bunt and direct the bunt. Situational hitting. Too many times I see when we need someone to hit to the right side, or make contact. A Strikeout, and infield popup or a GIDP. We need to work on line drive hitting. Making solid contact. And my favorite. Protecting the plate with 2 strikes and men in scoring position. Watching strike 3 go by, or better yet taking a huge cut when you have 2 strikes is non productive. Teams like the Yanks, As, Boston, the Twinks are good at fouling pitches off, being a tough K. It has 2 effects One is running the pitch count of the starting pitcher, and the other is the pitcher may make a mistake.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 20, 2006 -> 02:30 PM) Paul Konerko is the goat of this game so far. He's the only one who looks like he has no clue, and his error more than likely directly led to us losing this game. It was a lack of good fundamentals. the error wasnt bad. Its the throw by Pablo on the next play into third that allowed the trailer to advance to second. Then Javy nibbles and nibbles and walks the next guy. then grooves a pitch down the middle on pitch one to Mike Redmond. Things that need to be addressed in next years ST. Baserunning, and where to throw a ball on different plays. We have too many guys throwing the ball into the wrong base allowing trailers to follow and we turn a single run, into multiple runs by bad fundamentals.

QUOTE(kwolf68 @ Aug 20, 2006 -> 02:25 PM) Sad thing is we are doing a decent job on Santana...we already have 6 hits, only a couple Ks and are working his pitch count up. Santana is a great pitcher, but we look absolutely like little leaguers against him. Not everyone struggles to score a single run against him like we do. We make him look this way, because we are only looking for a single pitch and trying to just hit it hard. We need more line drive swings and a lot less of the lets hit a dong off of Santana routine and we would succeed better.

Anderson has the proper approach, hit the fastball to right, and pull the change. Memo to the rest of the team. Watch the kids approach and stop trying to pull every single pitch.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Aug 20, 2006 -> 02:21 PM) He got absolutely torched his first stint up. When he came back in September, he was decent, but he won't do it again this season for two reasons - 1 - he isn't stretched out, and 2 - he's been scouted now and he will be eaten alive in a starter's role if he's put there this season. Kap Bmac was a bit better than decent last September. He cant be stretched out this year, its too late.

Keep pulling and lifting. It works well against Santana.

The guys who get hits on Santana, watch them they are purposely trying to take his fastball into right. When they get a change they pul it and still put good wood on it. Guys who only pull for the most part, the Konerkos of the world look foolish because they are still trying to pull and park the fastball.

We score 1, and then poof Vazquez gives up a 4 spot. I am glad we picked up this guy. I had to look twice to make sure Felix Diaz wasnt out on the bump. This guy sure is the million dollar arm and the ten cent head.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Aug 19, 2006 -> 01:51 PM) Thome is the biggest reason we run less, that and Dye's success. You just don't want to make outs in front of those studs on the bases. It was different last year when we had less success out of 3-4-5 That and the fact that Pods isnt the same runner. I think he never recovered from his hernia last year.

QUOTE(vandy125 @ Aug 17, 2006 -> 01:46 PM) A bit of a rest for AJ, and I would rather have him giving AJ a rest than the Widge of '06 Our guys must be the most rested bunch of guys in all of baseball. Our starting day lineup plays together as a group about 20% of the time. They started getting their days off on game 2 of the season.

A double play gets us out of the bases loaded with 1 out. Wow glad we are fighting tooth and nail here with the Tigers, no that isnt a tigers uniform, its must be the Yankees...no....KC...let me look that up. Ah the worst team in the AL.

Mark walks Sweeney to get the bases loaded to get to Tehan. This is fugly.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 17, 2006 -> 01:42 PM) Get McCarthy up in the pen. A starter will need to give up a even dozen before Ozzie takes him out before 5.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Aug 17, 2006 -> 01:40 PM) Someone needs to take out Gruzielanek, that guy is KILLING us Someone needs to make a pitch. When you groove fastballs or meatballs over the middle of the plate any hitter can look like Babe Ruth.

Mark plunks the lefty ala Marte. Next guy singles. Man on first and third for Sweeney.

Anyone confused on why we are in a dogfight in game 4 to salvage a split against the worst road team in baseball when we are at home.

Its a swing for the fence day. We will be real productive as long as Odalis lays meatballs over the plate.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Aug 17, 2006 -> 01:26 PM) Nice job Mark. Let's get the run back. 2 home runs by the Royals already and Ozuna hit one. I wonder how many of our guys will be in the dip the back shoulder, pull and elevate mode. Its why we got shut down the last 2 nights.