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QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ May 11, 2006 -> 12:17 PM) Do they change their jerseys twice a year like in the Mexican League? No. The third kit may change from year to year. But the primary kit doesnt change all that much. The only time is when a new sponser takes over. Celtic FC changed their away kit a few times over the last few years. But the hoops home kit has been the same for a long long long time.

Hopefully he keeps the control when he comes to the show. We need guys in the pen who will attack the hitter.

QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ May 11, 2006 -> 11:23 AM) That was an ugly, ugly loss. The worst I've seen in a while, especially in person (and I've seen some nasty ones). But I would be the last person to start thinking the sky is falling. Hey, look at it this way: we are 3-1 against FREAKIN ANAHEIM thus far. Until the ALCS last year, people forget, playing them was like a GUARANTEED loss. Like with Oakland. Not only did we SWEEP them OUT THERE--!!!--but if we take this series, I'd say things are looking pretty damn good. I think we need to get our asses kicked once in a while to keep everybody's feet on the ground. And hey: KC beat freakin' Cleveland! You gotta love that. I was at the game also. Watching Haeger warm up in the 1st, you knew he was nervous. After the first inning, I figured it would be a tough night. So when they did lose, it wasnt that much of a shock. I wouldnt say it was one of the worst losses I have seen. They came back, and the game got out of hand at the end. It came apart real quick and it was over. It happens. To me the worst type of loss, is when you have a man in scoring position and someone Ks looking with 2 outs in the night. This one didnt bug me as much.

I was at Ballys for years. Its a dump. They closed the one on 22nd street, so I had to change clubs. Now I am at Lifetime and its a hell of a difference. Its expensive 100 bucks a month for the wife and I. But the immenities are awsome. 17 person indoor whirlpool, 4 lane swim pool, indoor zero depth pool with waterslide, and an outdoor pool with a whirlpool. The place is clean, TVs everwhere. It feels more like a country club than a gym. My suggestion is to try a few of these places. There is a lot of competitiion in this area, and they all will give you free workouts to try it out. I think I tried like 5 different gyms before I went with Lifetime.

QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ May 11, 2006 -> 10:29 AM) Can we stop with the rain excuses? I was there and yes, it did not start raining hard until we had obviously pisssed the game away. It was almost bibical, come to think of it. Jenks I love but I worry that everybody's figured him out and we've got our '06 version of Takatsu. In his defense, he had a bad night. Whatever. It's gonna happen. What actually worries me is that we only have one "closer." We need options besides Jenks. Unless he comes up with a killer changeup IMO, people are gonna figure him out sooner or later. People also forget that, last night, the guy after Jenks (Thorton? Logan?) gave up another two runs including a dinger. Not good. Our bullpen is our achilles' heel right now, unless you think we can trot out Big Bad Bobby to save every game. BTW our starter was terrible. Every pitch that guy threw was high. But I don't blame him for the loss because we managed to score 5 runs with 2 outs. Then Jenks lost it for us. Period. We need a plan "B" for a closer. Not to rip on Jenks--I love the guy. But you can't have just one. What team in the league is a few closers deep. Maybe Houston should ditch Lidge, because he cant handle it anymore also. Actually what you saw last night, was typical of the sox in 2004. The 5th starter would go out there, and give up the farm. The team would rally within a run, and then it would be out of reach. Be happy with what we have today. Now we have 5 good starters that keep us in the game all the time. What a great situation to be in. Heager didnt do the job, McCarthy will on Monday.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ May 11, 2006 -> 09:57 AM) There's a big difference going into the bottom of the ninth down 1 or down 7. There is no way to tell if the Sox would have lost anyway. I'm worried about Jenks because he is throwing 94 mph and doesn't have the command of his breaking ball as well as he had last year. His ERA is 5.52. Opponents are hitting .288 against him. He's hardly walking anybody, which you would think would translate into dominating, but for some reason it has not. He has dominated a few times, but for the most part he has been extremely hittable. First thing, Bobby was not throwing 100 from April on of last year. He didnt get his full velocity until around June. At what point did Bobby have command of his breaking ball last year? If I remember he had a hard time throwing it for strikes last year. I think he has shown better command of his curve this year throwing it for strikes. He couldnt throw the hammer at all for a strike last year. He still got people out. Last year right handers had a good BA(.298) against Bobby while lefties he owned. Lets not get all goofy and start the closer by comittee thing already. And lets not act like Bobby is only throwing 94 all the time. He has been hitting 97 a lot in his recent appearances.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ May 11, 2006 -> 12:13 AM) I wasn't very clear on the phone, so a slight correction is in order... hehe Alissa Jeannette. Two weird spellings of both names - of course picked out by yours truely. Scary, eh? We are both worn out. Poor mom pretty much had some sort of labor for over two days; so she's resting, finally, and I'm about to myself after camping out on the hospital room floor for three nights in a row. Thanks everyone for the well wishes and prayers. Kap Congrats to you and your wife. Becoming a parent is one of the best things that can happen to a person. It changes your life in the best ways. Happy Birthday Alissa!!!!!

QUOTE(Harry&JimmyRocked @ May 10, 2006 -> 11:53 PM) rape and pillage? i don't call trading a guy that will never help your team win a world series, for bullpen help raping and pillaging? obviously your life sucks bad enought to be the "tough talking message board guy", so these are my last thoughts on the subject. Anderson-4th outfielder Garland- one year wonder Crede-playing for contract what about danny wright? where's mckay christensen? what about super joe borchard? scott ruffcorn? rodney bolton? jon rauch? the great one year wonder mike caruso luis andujar arnie munoz? and the names go on and on spout all the names for me you'd like gutless wonder. the best you got is mr. one year jon garland???? looks like you'll have to take his sausage outta your mouth to respond. looks like the sox disagree with you as charlies ass we sent packing back down to the minors. now please give us a rant on kenny williams and why this was wrong. I was one of the biggest Joe Crede critics on the site, especially with his bat. I have seen enough this year and late last year to see a complete workaround in his swing. Hands quiet, nice fluid swing through the hitting zone. This is not a result of someone working for a contract, this is a complete difference in his hitting technique. Whatever he did during his time off for injury he completely reworked his swing. Guys playing for contracts, hit a s***load of homers, they dont worry about average because its power numbers that pay the most. Guys playing for contracts strike out a lot trying to park every pitch into the stands. Look at Credes numbers and tell me that he is trying to park s*** all the time.

Pretty much this is my thoughts on our bullpen in general. From a stuff standpoint, they all have great stuff. However our bullpen members need to throw strikes. That was Bobbys problem tonight. You get behind, especially with men on, and you know he has to come over the plate. With the rain, he threw one curve to warm up and it was terrible. So at that point he became a one pitch pitcher. Throw strikes, get ahead and they will be a hell of a lot better than they are. Get behind, and we will have bullpen nights like tonight.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ May 10, 2006 -> 11:40 PM) I would have given Haeger possibly another game, very hard for a pitcher in his 1st major league game to come out and pitch well straight away. But the Sox have obviously made their decision. I'd go with Lopez as the pitcher to call up because he's got the runs on the board and has pitched very well down at Charlotte, but if it's Tracey, hopefully he does well in a few appearances for us. Brandon is streched out enough to give 5 to 6 in his next start. He looked good.

As a person that was at the game here is a couple of interesting items. When Haeger came out to do his warm ups he was nervous as hell. He threw one into the backstop. Usually an umpire sits behind the catcher to gage a new pitcher and how their ball comes in. The ump was kind of disinterested, in fact AJ had to kind of get his attention to get a new ball to warm up with. He rushed his warm ups and that was just the start of it. He could throw his fastball for strikes pretty much. It had some life to it. However his hard knuckler he would either let sail, or he would pound it into the dirt. His slow knuckler he didnt use that much. He would get to 2-0 or 3-1 on a guy and then would throw a few fastballs to get back into the count, then would try and trick the guy with a knuckler. It could of been a lot worse as far as the walk to run damage, but Guerro has no patience at the plate and was swinging at the first knuckle ball near the plate. The hard knuckler seems to be his bread and butter pitch, and it wasnt doing anything for him. It was dancing a bit, but he wasnt going to get it called for a strike. Then they could sit on the fastball. Tough start for the kid. Maybe Ozzie should of taken him out after he had a good inning to make him feel better and leave on a good note. He was on the verge of a bit hurt the entire evening. His knuckler can be effective if he throws strikes.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ May 10, 2006 -> 11:30 PM) I'd guess Lopez. The Score after game show was stating that it would probably be a righty recalled from AAA and it would most likely be Tracey.

I was at the game. He had no control what so ever. On the way home the Score had already said he is already optioned back to AAA and they will announce who is to take his place. Bmac gets the start on Monday.

Well I will be at tonights game. Hopefully to see a whitesox winner, and a win for the kid. The knuckler should be interesting.

Its not a bad show so far. They are doing decent coverage of the sox on it. The funniest comment so far is when Salisbury stated, maybe the reason the cubs are covered more is the lure of Wrigley. Yeah, thats it. Not the fact that the Wrigley corporation that owns one of the 2 papers, and the superstation in town also owns the cubs. Yeah the reason is the lure of the Urinal.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 9, 2006 -> 10:12 PM) wow, one of the best games we have played all year. This team is scary good right now. Lets hope Chuck can keep it rolling. Well I will be there to see the knuckler in person. Hopefully the ball dances crazy for Haeger, and they impatient Angels make this a quick and easy inning for the kid.

QUOTE(klaus kinski @ May 9, 2006 -> 09:45 AM) If the Cubs had a real 21st Century scoreboard and If you were doing a Cubs introduction video, similar to our historical highlites shown before each game, what music would you play? The video should start with a man bringing a goat to the park. Some nice effects, like smoke and a shadowy figure. The shadowy figure is the grim reaper, and he brings a goat with him. Then go into Lee Elias rant. Then start the theme song for the cubs....I am a little tea pot short and stout, this is my handle this is my spout. Then show all the historical losses and bad baseball that the cubs have shown. Maybe side by side towel throwing sessions by their top pitchers near the end. And then to finish the video have the Bartman ball incident, with Alou doing his pout and jump routine. Fade to black and then have it say...wait till next year. The last sound played is Ronny Santo screaming, OOOOOOHHHHH NOOOOOO HE DROPPPED THE BALLLLLLL

QUOTE(Jimbo's Drinker @ May 9, 2006 -> 12:51 AM) Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool or Man U???? I am in the Arsenal direction at this point What no SPL? You could go with Celtic. You know, cool guys wear green. If you are looking for someone to recognize the jersey, all of those are good choices. My suggestion is to go with the team you like the best. Do a bit of research if you dont know much about the teams. Try to make a connection to the team. I have a guy at my work that wears an Indian hat. He has for years, when I asked him is he an Indian fan. No, but the hat looks pimp was his answer.

QUOTE(Texsox @ May 9, 2006 -> 07:49 AM) Exacty. Finally something we can agree on. So we speed up the line, there seems to be employers waiting for them, and the problem is solved. Legal immigrants have to go through a process where the US figures out who you are, where you came from. Illegal immigrants didnt provide any of these papers. Its okay to put on the rosey colored glasses and say that all illegal immigrants are here to get the american dream. But just based on logic, some of them are criminals or are here for other reasons. So just because they broke the law and they protest we should just give in. We need to identify who these people are, what their backgrounds are, and what their purpose is in this country. As I have said in previous threads on this subject. No matter how many work visas you give out, there will always be someone on the outside looking in. We cant just have totally open borders. Will they wait for a work visa? Or are they just going to come across and hope for more protests and another wave of immunity. And the comments about the employers waiting for them. Well they are waiting for them, at a below minimum wage standard. Which of course is against the law.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ May 9, 2006 -> 07:39 AM) No, they are waiting for word on Contreras' response to treatment. We will know tonite. Cooper will be on the Mike North Show around 9:20am for his weekly gig. Mike stated he was going to ask Coop about Contreras. Maybe there is news, maybe there isnt.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ May 8, 2006 -> 07:04 PM) Exactly what I was thinking, especially since Rotoworld is now saying we reported he had a MRI. Hopefully that is confirmed. SI can do another story on us. We seem to be at the forefront for the rumors.

The last time we heard about a SP from the sox going on the 15 day DL, it was with a broken foot and McCarthy was going to the bump. Guess what happened, it turned out to be something that was overblown. The count could wake up tomorrow and his back could feel fine. Lets see what happens.

QUOTE(shawnhillegas @ May 8, 2006 -> 04:40 PM) yeah, hip problems are bad news. id much rather have a sore shoulder. especially if there was an MRI taken and he was so quickly ushered onto the DL. think joey belle folks. The doom and gloom is not needed. He is our best pitcher right now, any injury no matter how minor is going to get an MRI, and about 11 doctors looking at him. He is very imporant to our full season plans. Its better to sit him for 15 days, let his hip heal a bit, than to have him try and tough it out. Most arm injuries are caused by someone trying to overcome a leg or hip injury. They try to tough it out, and then overcompensate with their arms. I think this is a brilliant move, as we have protected the Count from further complications. We have Haeger for the short term, and if it lingers a bit, we bring McCarthy in, and bring a certain old guy we just picked up into the pen.

I am sure the folks at mlbtraderumors.com are typing something up right now after this made a thread on soxtalk.

Bmac comes back with the K. That 2nd changeup he threw that moved back over the plate was nasty as hell. It ran in like a screwball. Then he puts the guy down with the big hook.