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QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 08:28 AM) I just hope that everyone keeps b****ing about Crede, everytime there is a Crede sucks thread, he goes out and hits a bomb. The occasional pull home run doesnt overshadow his overall suckage. If he was more consistant and hit 260 I would be thrilled and wouldnt complain about Crede. But when he goes into funks were he sucks for a month or two.

I posted something similiar earlier in a thread. But we see a lot of lineup juggling lately with Ozzie. I think this is the best lineup with the current roster with Frank. I think this lineup has less holes in it and has a reasonable chance to keep our top 3 hitters on base with a proven RBI guy behind them(frank) Pods LF Gooch 2B Arow CF Thomas DH Konkero 1B Dye RF AJ C Cruddy 3B Uribe SS Pods and Gooch set the table. They have been clutch all year long. Arow in the 3 hole. I know Thomas loves the 3 hole. But we need his stick. If he bats three they will pitch around him to get to Pauly. Arow will get tons of fastballs which he kills. He has been hitting the ball with power to RF and the CF this year. He is coming around. Frank should thrive in the 4 hole. He will have men on who are all fast. He should see some good pitches because of the guys being on in front on him. Konerko will have the bases loaded a lot. Hopefully he starts to use more of the field and actually converts some of these runs. If he doesnt flip him and Dye. Dead is showing signs of life. He is still a bit too pull happy, but he is hitting a lot of line drives. AJ provides the saftey valve and is a tough out. Cruddy hits 8th so we can have Uribe be the second lead off guy. I dont want to start off to many innings with Cruddy. Plus Uribe is faster than Cruddy by a long shot and clogging the bases up in front of our fast guys isnt a good idea. Now when you spell Everett for Thomas. You put Dye in the 4 hole and Everett in the 5 hole. When gload gets back it gives us a good guy to spell Konerko.

The biggest thing with Politte this year is that he is aggressive in the strikezone. He has filthy stuff and trusts it. If he gives up a homer, its because they hit 95-97 mph filthy stuff. Its not because he walked a bunch of guys and then go beat on dunks/dinks and crap. IF YOU BEAT ME ON MY BEST, TIP MY HAT. IF YOU BEAT ME BECAUSE I s*** MYSELF KICK ME IN THE NUTS. THE SLOGAN OF OUR 2005 BULLPEN

I am for this. Politte has been nails. He has a very crisp exploiding fastball and has a filthy slider. He can K and the biggest thing is he doesnt walk people. Marte has filthy stuff and can be explosive. But he gets in these little funks from time to time where he short arms the fastball and either walks a bunch of guys or gets behind and meatballs one in. Marte in the 7th, Politte in the 8th and Hermy in the 9th Cotts/Viz/Tee ball stand in the 6th

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ May 31, 2005 -> 09:02 PM) I'm in total agreement with you there. No way should Kong be hitting 4th as bad as he's slumping. My only issue with your lineup is that Cruddy should be batting 9th until he starts swinging the bat consistently ( if thats even possible ) Cruddy sucks, but I would rather have Uribe on base with Pods/Gooch/Arow coming up instead of having Cruddy clog the bases.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ May 31, 2005 -> 08:57 PM) That sequence in the 1st inning where Pods, Gooch and AROW got 3 hits in a row and we scored a couple of runs was most refreshing. I dont even recall the last time I saw that happen. I know everyone loves the home run. But to me, that is what we need to do more of. We have the personnel that can do it, they just need to approach the plate that way. Rowand is starting to heat up because he is using his power to center and right center. I would like to see Pods LF Gooch 2b Arow CF Thomas DH Kong 1B Dead RF AJ C Cruddy 3b Uribe SS I know that Thomas loves the 3 hole and all. But Arow kills fastballs and would do great in front of Thomas. Thomas would get big time RBI opps. Its another way to keep the best part of our lineup together with our best hitter in a generation. Just a thought.

Nice win. Politte great game. The first scoring series where we strung a few hits together mixed some hits with speed and smartball. Very nice. Clutch Clutch hit by the Dead man. And I called it in Chat before the inning started!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Hopefully Garcia's hammy is ok.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ May 31, 2005 -> 05:08 PM) Read my post at 5:46. I tried to end it there and simply said that I accepted disagreeing and said JaBroni has not which is the problem. I thought it would end there. I'm not going to be the older brother who gives him what he wants. He doesn't want to end it so I got til 6:30 to argue with the runt if he wants. Actually I am talking about this. Sounds like the older brother to me.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ May 31, 2005 -> 05:02 PM) Oh yeah, because all these people are GM's in the league. In that case, whoever is Billy Beane, is it possible you trade us Chavez and Haren and Harden for a bag of balls? You keep going after I again agreed to disagree. Continue with your cheap shots though. Now I know how it's like to have a little brother that keeps following you around and continues to annoy the hell out of you. Everyone praise JaBroni as king so he could finally shut the hell up. You make personal attack after personal attack and then get on Jabroni for taking a cheap shot. You have a warped sense of reality. You can talk of Napolean conflicts and all but you are the kid who cracks the other kid in the head then complains when he hits you back.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 31, 2005 -> 04:46 PM) So we are now hoping that he just doesn't suck for two months of the season? Wow. Now I realize its our fault. Someone should hypnotise Crede and tell him its August so he can hit. Talk about labor day, maybe throw some leaves around.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ May 31, 2005 -> 04:46 PM) I've already said those are just my thoughts. I never said anyone has to take them as fact. That's where JaBroni comes in. I have to take his thoughts as facts. I already asked a page or 2 prior when will it end and that I already know their thoughts on the discussion. I've already agreed to disagree, but JaBroni needs to argue. Actually you were presented with facts such as fielding percentage, zone rating, etc. And your reply was to ignore the stats, your eye tells all. This started when you said that Randa is a inferior 3rd baseman defensively besides having a better ZR and fielding percentage.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ May 31, 2005 -> 04:35 PM) I mean as much as I think Crede sucks right now, he was a two time minor league MVP and there is a chance that he could get hot at some point this season. This is not Crede defending, this is just logic. Minor league superstars never bust out in the majors. Crede hasnt hit since he got here. There is no change in his swing. His hips fly open and he pulls off the ball.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ May 31, 2005 -> 04:33 PM) No Jabroni, I will not go out with you. I'm a heterosexual male. In the words of Cam'ron, No homo. Thanks for the PM though. And no, I did not vote in that thread because it's simply lame and I already knew it was a form of baiting. I know most people are saying Uribe. That was expressed in this thread. Don't know why you had to make another thread about it. Methinks you need to learn that ad hominem attacks do not support your premise nitetrain.

QUOTE(DonkeyKongerko @ May 31, 2005 -> 04:24 PM) If we get a new hitting coach, there better be a moratorium on b****ing about our hitting coach for the rest of the season. When Crede still sucks, I don't want to hear anymore whining about why our hitting coach can't fix Crede. Crede will always be terrible. However the entire team outside of one or two guys cannot be slumping at the same time. The law of averages say this cannot happen.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ May 31, 2005 -> 04:25 PM) Point was that there was already 15 other threads b****ing about what and who is going wrong. That's the point me and aboz are trying to make. I thought that the purpose of boards like this was to discuss with sox fans about the sox. If a topic doesnt hold merit people will ignore it and move on. I never understood where people read something they dont like and then get mad at people for bringing up the point. Whitesox fans are pessimistic by nature. And I am sorry if I am not just overjoyed by this anemic offense we have. Our pitching is great.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ May 31, 2005 -> 04:20 PM) Why when I've already seen what people think in here. It's stupid and a lame attempt at bait. I saw people's thoughts and I have my own. I don't need to go over them again. What color is the sky in your world

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ May 31, 2005 -> 04:17 PM) Can't you see aboz, if the Sox lose, it wasn't because the other team was the better team that day, it's because someone on the White Sox is f***ing up. Hell even when we win. I am sure that plenty of pitchers get out of multiple bases loaded no out jams witth only 3 runs. If that was any other team a 5 spot goes up on the board. They were begging for a hurting.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 31, 2005 -> 04:09 PM) I thought he was s***ty last year, he got his arm hurt, Baines was interim coach, our bats got real hot, Walker came back, ice cold. Walker works with Carlos Lee last year at the end of his 28 game hitting streak. Changes him from a guy with a compact swing hitting doubles driving in runs like crazy to a extend the arms homer hitter. Every quote from a sox player is "Greg Walker has worked with me on my swing, we tweaked it" And then you see said hitter pull the ball like crazy and hit some homers, then the pitchers start to pitch them outside and their average drops. Crede, His pet project. Failure He was the minor league hitting instructor. Everyone from that era comes up with freakishly long looping swings. Anyone who wants to shut the sox down just has to spot the fastball on the outside corner and its over. Corpseball pull only goes into effect. The inablity to hit situationally. Have you ever seen so many times over the last few years of men on in scoring position with less than two outs and we are swinging for the fences. Come on. Shorten the swing up a bit. We cant bunt at all outside of a few players. Pitchers can learn to bunt in an afternoon. Our positional players cant at all. But hey this is a formula for sucess, 6 out of 9 guys are hitting terrible. But we have the best record in baseball. Walk will turn them around. They will hit 255. And remember Home Runs are cool.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 31, 2005 -> 04:00 PM) No, I am not God. But MANY other posters already tried to tell you that you were wrong. Uribe is a better defensive SS than Ozuna. I'm sorry we had to break it to you. And Cruddy is so much better defensively that we have to deal with his craptacular bat of despair. I think Randa and his superior fielding percentage and Zone rating would be ok as a replacement.

QUOTE(Wedge @ May 31, 2005 -> 03:52 PM) I'm not sure, but I think if you turn Shingo's ERA upside that that one goes faster. Its like matter and antimatter. If Shingo was to face Cruddy who would prevail? The Ircrappable force vs. the Iresistable turd

QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 31, 2005 -> 03:48 PM) I loved this part the most... "Crede's Crew fanclub for the hitting challenged" BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Physics question for you. My question is if in a vacuum if you drop a bowling ball and watch Cruddys BA over the month of may, which one drops faster?

QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 31, 2005 -> 03:46 PM) Those stats prove nothing! Nitetrain8601's eyes tell all! I think he is even a MLB talent scout. :headshake Maybe he also has Steve Phillips GM ears that hell him that Ozzie is bad also

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ May 31, 2005 -> 03:40 PM) Still waiting for my answers. You ignore the facts so any answers based in reality are doomed. Presented that Randa has a better ZR and fielding percentage, you tell us that Randa is worse than Crede. Based on fact no, based on that you are a member of the Crede's Crewe fanclub for the hitting challenged. So why would any facts based on Uribe being better than Ozuna in the field be processed by you.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ May 31, 2005 -> 03:33 PM) I'm not talking about the offense because I know Uribe is a better offensive player than Ozuna. Are you sure, you may want to consult the same tea leaves that tell you that Ozuna is a better defensive SS.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ May 31, 2005 -> 03:23 PM) Stupid ass argument made by a stupid ass poster. Not suprised it came from you. Glad you helped your part of the debate with this spectacular gem of insight.