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QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 04:27 PM) Well of the guys who are out of options (I think) and are candidates to be waived, Here's my completely subjective opinion on their likelihood of passing through waivers. Timo - 90% Gload - 40% Ozuna - 35% -- Though I really don't have a good guage on him because any team could have had him prior to the season Willie - 5% -- Almost every team in baseball would find a spot on the roster for him. Vizcaino - 25% -- He's probably not as bad as we think, and lots of teams are looking for bullpen help including us. You are trying to use logic here. Timo is very slow. Timo cannot get on base. So lets bat Timo leadoff when Pods is out. This is crazy, yet happened a few times. Timo is short, Timo doesnt play INF, Timo doest have a 1st baseman glove, lets play him at 1st. Timo is our first option off the bench. Timo is everywhere. Timo and his .197 BA and terrible OBP are obviously some of the "playing the game the right way" that ozzie looks for in a player. If we are trying to view this with logic, here is another thing. We have Ross Gload hiting .345 in his rehab start. We are playing a team where we could use a good left handed bat for pinch hitting. A good glove in the late innings at first. Gload is ready to come off the DL. He hasnt been activated. Why?

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 04:11 PM) Ozzie is wrong... No team even gave Chris singleton a look after he got Waived recently... He's making half of what Timo did, and producing the same (minimally) if not better. (actually looking for verification on that, Singleton was outrighted. I think that's a different process. Sigleton opted for Free Agency after being outrighted, but will still draw a full salary from TB because he wasn't dropped in the first 45 days of the season) Timo has an OPS+ of 74 and 58 the last two years, and a career mark of 81. His best days are behind him (Am I the only one who thinks he may have a forged B-day too?) Singleton, for comparisons sake, has an OPS+ of 87 and 75 the last two years, and a career mark of 88+. His best days are behind him too. No team wanted a 32 year old 5th OFer who pretty much sucks for $550K, why would a team want a 30(?) year old 5th OFer who pretty much sucks for $1M? Logic doesnt follow suit here. I But last year watching Thriller march out over and over well into July after he screamed for release. Everytime I watched him give up homer after homer. It was just a logical decision. Yet they kept with him because he is a competitor. Bad players+bad results does not help the team.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 04:02 PM) I've caught a lot of heat on this board for saying that if Timo wasn't a latino/hispanic player, he'd be off the team by now. I know that's a pretty controversial statement....but it's something I honestly believe in. Pablo is latin. Bye Bye Willie. Too bad your last name wasnt Harrisriquez.

QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 03:55 PM) Where did Bruce Levine say this AM1000, And also to get me in a worse mood made a comment that he didnt think that Timo would be the first to go because Ozzie thinks he is important to this team. The soxtalk rumors about Timo and his special relationship are true if he sends down Willie or places Pablo on waivers so he can keep his .197 Batting girlfriend on the roster.

QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 03:58 PM) This just makes me think there is a deal in the works even more... Kenny always says things like that...like Steff said about Olivo... Did he giggle and then say he has to get off the radio also. Thats what happend in the offseason when a FA was about to be signed. Are you going to sign Jermaine Dye. HE HE HE HE HE, Jermaine WHO, HE HE HE HE, Next question.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 03:54 PM) Timo is going nowhere. There's not a doubt in my mind. Ozzie values Timo as much as anyone else on our team. If Borchard was latin he would probably be up now playing in RF based on this. Thanks Ozzie. Way to double speak.

Well Bruuuce Levine was on MJH and Jurko said oh well Timo will be send down when Gload comes off. Bruuuce stated that he is out of options and you will lose him. A comment to the effect of "HE GAWN" was sounded by Jurko, then Bruuce said well Ozzie believes that Timo is very important to this team and wouldnt want to risk him to waivers. :uhoh Sounds like Timo is going to stay and Willie or Pabo will be gone. Thanks Ozzie. You are using the wrong head to think again.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 02:40 PM) Pretty sure he's DH'ing since he rested Wednesday. Well your answer was based on Sanity. Nope Ozzie is going to start Everett at DH according to Bruce Levine.

QUOTE(Soxaholic @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 03:22 PM) The only reason we're having his conversation is because Konerko is slumping. I don't remember all these calls for his head at the end of last season, or even the start of this one. And no matter what you say--and I LOVE the new offense--but you still need someone to drive in runners. I cant wait to see your posts exactly a month from now after KOng kills NL pitching. ______________________________ me-->you I guess he was slumping in 2003 also. Maybe its only a every other year thing then.

QUOTE(Soxaholic @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 02:58 PM) Because we're all so willing to part with a player when he has a bad start. Watch...Paulie is gonna have a helluva June. Remember that series last June against the Cubs..he had 9 RBIs? Check out all the multi-homer games he's had. Chavez has never even had 120 RBIs, not to mention 141. Holla... _____________________________________ I think you missed the 2003 version of Konerko where he hit a stellar .234. Last year he rebounded. But may I suggest that pitchers have figured out that Paully is a pull only hitter who can be had by spotting the fastball on the outside corner. Last year he K'd 107 times, this year he already has 43 K's. Its not like he is just missing a few and he is going to explode. He is King. Its been nice that you hit homers Konerko, here is your watch thanks for being part of the team.

QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 02:01 PM) It woulda been f***in awesome if pollite played shortstop Imagine Cliffy after turning the DP. EAT s***!!!!

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 01:57 PM) Politte volunteered to play short?!?! I f***ing love this guy! Who better than Angry Politte to start your double play.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 01:48 PM) Small role which he cannot succeed at. If it was ozzie's choice we would have a whole team full of timo's. For such a small role he has 61 AB's which is the most from a role player and has been in 28 games, 13 less than AJ. He has more K's than hits.

ChicagoSportsReview Article

Granted this is from the baseballthinkfactory but this was their preason comments on Joe Crede. B Joe Crede (2004: Crede) Is this guy a streak hitter or what? From the beginning of the season: 0 for 8; then 7 for 18; then 0 for 12; 4 for 11; 0 for 11; 15 for 45; 1 for 26. He hit .329/.418/.600 in June, but an amazingly bad .198/.232/.264 in July. The other thing that jumps out at you when you look at Crede’s batting stats is how eminently mediocre a hitter he is. If a pitcher knows himself, then Crede is toast. Crede can’t hit the good flyball pitchers nor the good groundball pitchers. He can’t hit the good finesse pitchers nor the good power pitchers. He’s mediocre the first time he faces a pitcher and remains so in all subsequent at bats. He’s in his prime breakout years, but right now he has one offensive skill – he creams a first pitch fastball from crappy pitchers. End of story.

Timo has more strikeouts than hits right now. He has the most ABs out of all the non-starters(61). He has a .246 OBP. Willie has a .373 OBP and Pablo has a .349 OBP. So let me get this straight. Timo doesnt get on base, he doesnt hit, he Ks more than he does hit, he doesnt walk. What does he do again.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 02:02 PM) Are you inferring that Wunch is still in our organization? He was chased out by KW. Its a hypothetical. What if he was still here, would you rather have Wunch out there or Cotts/Walker/Crap on a stick.

Pablo is our only non-starter backup for 3rd, SS and he can play OF. He is fast, plays hard, is your typical grinder. He can provide a good speed option for either pinch runner or lead off guy when Pods is out of the lineup. Willie provides backup to gooch and insurance. He has speed, is left handed and can pinch run play SS and the OF. Then we have Timo Timo struggles at the plate, has limited range, is slow, doesnt make contact. And for every clutch hit he costs you in a few other games by either balls he doesnt get to, or by plays in the field or the K when you need a basehit. Naturally if this was a pure baseball decision, they send Timo down. He has options left I believe. But then you have the Ozzie love factor. He thinks this turd is good, for whatever reason. Whether that is due to his job in fluffing for Ozzie or maybe he gets him that first cup of coffee. If Ozzie risks Ozuna by designating him for assignment, or sends willie down then I question Ozzie's will to win. For all of the "If you dont play the game the right way, you will sit no matter who you are." Is playing the right way swinging for the fence when you pinch hit in the late innings, Is playing the right way using only one hand to catch the ball, running slow routes based on bad jumps. If this is what you need to do to make Ozzie's good list then we are doomed. Ozzie needs to break up with his girlfriend, give her a kiss and send her on her way. Thanks Timo and here is your fruitbasket. Maybe the Reds are looking for someone.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 02:51 PM) If Uribe's shot had been a few feet to the right... Now if that was Lew Ford he hits a double to right center and keeps the conga line running. Uribe swings for the fences and tomahawks a ball over his head. Thats why our comeback fizzled out and thats why their team keeps chugging.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 04:43 PM) I consider a guy with a 3.38 ERA solid out of the pen, decent... Does he let a lot of IR score? Sure Does he crap himself in pressure? From time to time. But 3.38 If that was true then Viz pitched himself a stellar game last night. So he shat himself and gave up the rest of the runs. He didnt have any charged to him so he pitched great.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 04:36 PM) Experiment?? He's started what 3 games in the major leagues. Now don't get me wrong I don't think he should be an option as a starter this year because he's been solid out of the pen but he really hasn't been given a shot yet to succeed as a starter. Solid our of the pen? Neal Cotts, the left handed pitcher from the whitesox. The minute he learns to throw strikes consistantly, maybe get a left hander out or dont s*** himself silly when a bit of pressure is applied we can revisit the "he is solid out of the pen and we can use him as a spot starter"

QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 04:23 PM) If El-duque goes back on the DL and McCarthy is an Athletic. Then I can see KW making a move to acquire another starting pitcher. There is NO WAY we will go through that black-hole 5th spot again. Other insurance policies could be Cotts. He has been pitching pretty solid lately. Cotts, as a starter.... Caller this is Onstar how can we help you Someone said that Neal Cotts was going to start a game, he is pitching better. I have shortness of breathe, and think I just vomitted in my mouth. I may have shat myself also. Dont worry take a step back Neal Cotts cannot start a game. That experiment is over. Thank you. Onstar is always here for you. Even when crazy Cotts starting thoughts appear.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 04:21 PM) You avoided my question. Who do you pitch in place of Hernandez if he is on the DL, and McCarthy is gone? Felix Diaz or Jon Atkins

Now what happens if Kelly Wunch comes into the face the lefties instead of Kevin Walker or Neal cant throw a strike Cotts.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:10 PM) But Ozzie only has one boyfriend. It makes me sick, but Timo is going nowhere. It's a shame that performance on the field no longer matters. Someone that is more deserving of a roster spot than Timo Perez will be sent down. Apparently performance on your knees is more important than performance as a baseball player. We have this overloyalty to crap over the years and it has cost us over and over. Last year we marched Thriller out because he had some silly record to get. Dropping games in a playoff race due to one morons personal goals. Koch as the closer. This year we are marching Timo and Viz over and over. Timo has no range in the OF, he is slow, he cant hit, yet he will be here. Viz cant keep a runner stranded to save his life.