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This what WhiteSoxDave said about the DM he got: "but it was from an agent at an agency that competes with Boras. I performed all my due diligence last night on him and he's legit. Long story short, he told me Conforto injured his shoulder doing something stupid at a bachelor party this offseason and that's why teams aren't lining up to acquire his services right now ." https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3411973/sounds-like-michael-conforto-hasnt-signed-because-he-allegedly-got-hurt-at-a-bachelor-party-this-winter

He's talking about a tweet that said what the Nats are looking for and it included taking Patrick Corbin off the Nats hands. But we all know what they want and what they get might be 2 entirely different animals. Nats would have to eat a significant portion of Corbins salary because he's signed through as many years as Soto is.

Martin Perez . He's lefty and a Astro's killer which is why I keep bringing him up . Rental for this year.

All I know is that someone told WhiteSoxDave that he hurt it doing something stupid at a Bachelor Party and Boras said he hurt it diving for a ball while working out.

I don't believe for a minute that the Sox could afford taking on Corbin even if the Nats eat half his salary. Do you know how much Soto is going to make in arbitration for 2023 and 2024 ? It could set arbitration salary records. If you take on half of Corbin's salary plus Soto's arb. salaries for those 2.5 years your looking at maybe $40+M per year for Soto + Corbin who is useless to a contending team. If Corbin is in a deal for Soto it will be to one of the big spending teams. But I think in the end Corbin won't be a part of any deal unless the Nats eat way more than half his salary. The Sox have huge hill to climb if they want to get Soto and not have his presence diminished by trading Vaughn or Kopech. This is why it won't happen. The Nats would have to be interested in Eloy and that's a huge obstacle too. I give Seattle , Yanks or Dodgers the best shots at getting Soto.

Sox gonna Sox.

Come on Bob those 3 names where just an example, he's knows that won't get it done because he followed it up by saying the entire farm for all he cared. The Sox do have talent to work with. Remember its not the rankings of minor leaguers so much as it is what their scouts think of the talent. To fans looking at the rankings in a trade makes it look prettier.But Montgomery is a fast riser who could be in the top 10 or close too it when the season ends and Colas could be in close to the top 50. Just just have to finish the season like they started it through their promotions to higher levels. So far its going great . That may or may not help the Sox in a major trade but it could.

There are people in the thread who were advocating for Conforto at pretty big money before we all found out he was injured but have now lowered their expectation of what to pay him next year to maybe 2 yrs and $15M . So 7.5M per yr is fine. Trouble is Boras is still his agent and he'll come out and proclaim Conforto is in the best shape of his life and he may indeed ask for $15M a year. How much he actually gets and for how long is what GM's have to decide. He'll have a showcase and be hitting balls all over the place but really if any major leaguer that can't look great in a "showcase" he's finished. That's why these agents have showcases. We also can't forget that there was speculation that Conforto hurt himself partying. Who knows if he was drunk on his ass and fell down ? We don't but there are probably a few GM's who will do their due diligence on those rumors.

Imagine if the Sox do get Tyler Naquin Imagine if the Sox do get Tyler Naquin. You'll forever be called Rick Hahn !! And be scorned when he doesn't do anything to help the Sox win a World Series.Let's get a light hitting corner OF who's not showing hardly any power this year and can't field either !

To be fair we complain about everyone.

Right no sense saying we don't have the pieces. There's only 1 way to find out. Start the damn negotiations ! Do the best you can to keep Vaughn and can't be give up Kopech. Hopefully Eloy and not Vaughn and if you have to include Montgomery or Colas or both, who cares ,throw in Sheets and Burger too !

Never say never. Sox stuck him in A ball and now he's in AA he could mash there for 1.5 months and Sox promote him to AAA for September where he could mash for the rest of the season. Unlikely yes but there's even a chance if he keep mashing continuously that he called up some time in Sept. Early next year seems a real possibility unless he's traded. If you meant by a "few weeks left in the season" 2 months left in the season, that would be accurate. Birmingham's season ends Sept 18 and Charlotte's ends Sept. 28.

I haven't even brought Ketel Marte up at all because the D'backs extended him through 2027 for 5 yrs. $76M through age 33 season with a team option for another yr. D backs are loaded with LHH in the OF . The young ones are pretty good.

Leury is easier but I always see it as Luery. Then there's Hendricks and Pollock .Just think of it as a typo rather than a spelling error and put your anal probe away.

I said "more reasonable" as in more reasonable than acquiring Soto. And Happ is "more reasonable" because of the reasons you stated.

Likely if the Sox do make any moves that include a LH bat and a pitcher you have to think Martin Perez is a target based on how he does against the Astros, and Happ or Brian Reynolds are more reasonable LH bat targets. Lynn, no idea how he'll perform 2nd half. Kopech, who knows how long till he totally gassed especially if he's already starting to feel it. Cueto, no way he can be as good as his 1st half but the same could be said of Martin Perez. So start with getting a pitcher as quickly as you can and see who's left among eligible LH bats. Resigning Soto is a bigger pipe dream than trading for him. JR might not even be around in 2.5 years.

Sox are going down as the tigers and the rest of the division rises is that it ? The Nats want best value and they have to ascertain if the can work out a package that includes getting rid of Corbin or keeping him for the best return. It's not The GM's job to worry about who they sell the team to when he may be the 1st one fired regardless of any trades he makes . Eloy is not a centerpiece. If you put Montgomery and Colas in a package with him , that's a foundation for a trade. Why you take Eloy ? A rebuild will take enough time that a patient team can take on Eloy , work very closely on ways to keep him healthy. If he can put up one full season of 35 HR's and hit .300 they got themselves another decent trade piece. And it can happen as early as next season. Eloy is not currently dead. He's not a pitcher you have to wait a year on to return from TJ.

True a hotdog is whatever you wanna put on it like a ham sandwich probably better without ketchup but salsa, lettuce , tomatoes onions, mustard, spinach leaf, pickles, cucumber slices is all up to individual tastes.

Corbin has the same 2.5 yrs as Soto and his last 2 years are $60M + whatever the prorated rate of this years salary would be on his $23.4M he's getting this year . Unsure what the Luxury Tax salary would be going forward. Price was a useful piece. Corbin is not. He's racking up negative WAR quickly.

Ancient history.

There's good chance Corbin isn't in a deal for Soto. Why would the Nats want to diminish the return in prospects even eating a bit of the money ? No one should bail them out . It could happen but I'm pegging it as unlikely. Corbin is like an approx $70M (money owed this year and the remainder of his contract) version of Keuchel only a couple of years younger. He can't throw strikes and when he does he gets lit up like fireworks on the 4th of July. Even if they eat half the salary plus what you end up playing Soto for the next 2.5 years that's approximately $40+M per year for Soto since Corbin is essentially unplayable for a contender plus prospect capital.

His value is staying on the field and hitting well. We've seen value diminish with a guy like Eloy. I'll take the value Vaughn provides the Sox right now. The best ability is availability. He's improved so much from last year. Hopefully it's just the beginning of his hitting improvements.

I look at it this way. The Rangers have got tremendous value from Perez.He's their Cueto. However you are likely looking at regression from Perez and Cueto in the 2nd half and the Sox have no idea if Lynn can pitch effectively in the 2nd half . Plus there's the whole Kopech IP problem. Plus Martin Perez has slayed the Astros this year with his 2 starts against them. The Sox are going to need more starting pitching to contend not less this year and some salary relief to afford Soto for the next 2.5 years. Start with Eloy's salary and go from there. With Soto you don't need Eloy anyway. Trading Giolito just adds to the starting pitching problem. I think Giolito is a little too close to free agency for the Nats to want him.

Eloy for Martin Perez !! Who says no ?

Thinking too much. You don't worry about Eloy and Sheets right now. They are nothing burgers and as likely to be involved in upcoming trades as they are to stay with the Sox .If the Sox can't get Soto with the following players to choose from then they won't get him: Eloy,Sheets, Burger, Davis Martin, Montgomery, Colas, Sosa, Crochet and basically any other minor league guys the Nats want. Vaughn could be left out of the equation. Trade 7 guys for all I care , a mix of quantity and quality.