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I'm just going to enjoy the good news about Robert and chill until game time.

No just scroll back if you haven't already.

So are the Sox going to beat the Sox to the punch on acquiring any CF ? Let's DFA Hamilton, bring up Goodwin and let the Twins take Hamilton.

He upped the payroll because they won the World Series so they had extra money added to the budget and they didn't make the playoffs .So no playoff money and no consistent raises to the payroll afterwards, Right back to JR being JR.

I don't think it's cherry picking at all. I used the spray charts for his whole MLB career. Am I supposed to take spring training, alternate sites, his minor league career and college career into consideration ? Besides that, what I said isn't that much different from the guy I responded to in the 1st place @hi8is . He thought he could hit 5-10 HR's annually in his career and I think it's lower than that. He had no problem with what I said. He can be a good player no matter how many HR's he hits. I think if he would have to sacrifice anything to hit a few more HR's it would be his approach which would be sacrificing consistent contact and adding a few more K's in order to pull the ball more. He won't change his approach. His approach is what has put him right where is now which is a good thing.

But it was a huge financial success because it was accomplished Jerry's way. That way he's not signing huge contracts and hoping for a little luck like in 2005 with a bunch of guys having career or near career years. The way he has done it has consistently shown you can't make the playoffs but can still keep the investors happy.

LOL ,Yea I originally had it as he doesn't think it "has" hurt the bottom line and changed it and I even thought "well damn i just double negatived that and now it doesn't make any sense." But I hit submit replay anyway. Right ,his choice, I mean maybe they spend more and make better investments if he loosens the purse strings and allows the GM to stop making the mid range investments that turn out so poorly. But he also wants to avoid the really big investments that turn out poorly because he won't allow those big investments to take up such a high percentage of the payroll which would also have be raised. His way has worked so far for him ,his family and the investors. As a business that's really all he is concerned with. Yes, he is a big baseball fan but not to the point of jeopardizing the bottom line or care about winning World Series in any way financially but his own way. Would the Sox be worth more or have a bigger fan base if it was different? We will never know. Like now, he's probably hoping the Sox could win a World Series or 2 and bump the franchise worth over the $2B range but he won't go out of his way financially to accomplish that.

I was just using his MLB spray charts and saw hardly anything pulled in the air ( it might have been nothing pulled in the air) into the LF corner. Like I said things can change so I'm fine with seeing what happens . If I had to guess , yea sure, he might get a 5 HR season a few times in his career but 5-10 on a consistent basis I'd say no.

Reinsdorf obviously doesn't think the way he's been running the franchise hasn't hurt the bottom line and he's right. It's been a very good investment. Spending above and beyond the budget may not necessarily improve the bottom line especially if he has no faith attendance or TV revenues and sponsorships will dramatically improve with continuous winning vs costs associated with continuous winning.

I doubt LaRussa assumed that. LaRussa also said in the presser he had no intention of making Hendriks part of a double steal or risking Hendriks in any way that involved a play at the plate or 3rd. which answers the question on why Hamilton wouldn't have attempted a bunt (suicide or safety squeeze) if the steal was not used in the 1st place. The Reds knew this which is why they did throw through with the very strong armed Barnhart, another thing LaRussa should have taken into consideration for the steal ( Barnharts arm) Probably also explains why he just didn't have Leury attempt a sac bunt to get runners on 2nd and 3rd with no outs. So his decisions and lack of knowledge of the rules directly contributed to the rest of his (bad) strategy for the inning.

He makes them money (eventually when the team is sold) that's what they give a damn about.

Ok if what you just said is how you think then I 'm pretty sure that's right and we are interpreting it the same way. SO he had 3 choices, 2 of which did not involve the pitcher running but he choose to let Hendriks run because, A. He didn't know the rule and B. Because he wanted to keep Hendriks in . Someone could've had a more complete discussion with LaRussa from his staff which would have taken all of a minute to lay out the options . Abreu or pinch runner in for Hendriks, who was batting for the Reds the next inning , players left available on the bench should he pinch run, Bummer, Heuer whoever all available, off day the next day. I like the WTHDIK .

Actually I'm pretty sure besides using Abreu they could have also pinch run for Hendricks which would have taken him out of the game. Tony wanted him in the game but there was really no reason to keep him in the game . Only Kopech and Hendricks had been used so there were lots of guys available with an off day coming upp the next day. https://twitter.com/JRFegan/status/1390033735458902021/photo/1

I was only commenting on a post that said he would eventually hit 5-10 per year in his career . I disagreed. I did not critique Madrigal in any other way. Chill.

I don't know about that. I'm not sure he has hit a ball 350 ft yet in his whole career .Until I start seeing him pull some balls in the air it's hard to imagine him ever getting 5 in a season . I'm not even sure he has ever doubled into the left field corner yet on a fly ball. But things do change so I hope you're right.

That's just so bad for a AA team . 10 batters in a row, 9 getting walks and 1 HBP.

Which is probably why he just should've been IL'd right away and Goodwin or Gonzalez brought up.

If it helps we can only use the Reign of Reindorf to talk about no back to back playoffs if that makes you feel better. Normally we just say history of the franchise because that is a fact. Would've made it this year or that year if playoff formats had been different or if there was no strike in 94 etc. doesn't change the facts. It's still been a long ass time for a franchise with 120 years of history through luck , injuries, mismanagement, cheap owners , whatever to never make the playoffs 2 years in a row. Because of the rebuild there's a shot at it but once again Sox misfortune/mismangement w/e rears it's consistently ugly head like it has for 120 yrs.

Oh for heavens sake why the fuck was it patronizing ? I don't know if you know the rules or not and your post didn't make it clear what you knew because you didn't mention a substitution. What the fuck am I supposed to think if you didn't explain it better ? You made no mention of Lamb or Kopech. Holy hell I was as nice as can be pointing out perhaps you misinterpreted the rule and even asked you to kindly explain your thinking to me if I understood you wrong. What you perceive as patronizing I thought I was helping a fellow Sox fan understand the rules better. I also realized you could've knew the rules and kindly asked you to explain what you were thinking since if was far from apparent.

Right which I also pointed out when in that long winded post by saying TLR also had the option of just letting Mendick pinch run for Vaughn to start the inning instead of the double switch. I really did try to cover every option.

That's fine I was just pointing out TLR's options and one of them was to have Leury bunting . Typically I agree in that situation a bunt could've been the best move and pointing out how Leury hadn't been successful at it this season could've played a part in TLR's mind. And if unsuccessful we have people here screaming why is he bunting with Leury with the unsuccessful Leury bunts still fresh in their minds.

Or since you really don't want Vaughn running either you just don't make the double switch and let Mendick run for Vaughn and deal with the pitchers spot up 4th in the next inning when it comes up when you still have Collins, Lamb and Eaton ( to a lesser extent because he was ailing) on the bench. Sox FO didn't do LaRussa any favors by not anticipating trouble with CF during a 2 game NL series by not IL'ing Eaton and bringing up either Goodwin or Luis Gonzalez. I'm not entirely sure what you said is correct. Abreu and Hendrick were already in the game. You can't just switch their spots in the batting order . The purpose of a double switch is bringing a new player into the game. This is from Baseball Reference: A double switch is a substitution during which two or more players are substituted simultaneously and take places in the batting order different from those of the player they replaced. A double switch is typically used in situations where the designated hitter is not used and the pitcher is one of the players being substituted. The purpose of the move is to change the pitcher's slot in the batting order, so that the new pitcher does not immediately come up to bat in the next half inning. For example, if the left fielder, batting seventh, made the last out in the preceding half inning, a manager who wishes to change his pitcher in the middle of the following inning may elect to also change his left fielder, moving the new LF to the 9th slot of the order, and the new pitcher to 7th. This allows his team to have a better hitter coming up second in his team's next turn at bat, while not having to decide whether to pinch hit for his pitcher for a while. So if Vaughn stays into run where is the double switch since you aren't bringing a new player in the the game ? I think what you are suggesting is just switching Hendricks with Abreu in the batting order which is not allowed. Correct me if I am wrong on what you proposed to do because I don't see any new player coming into the game with your suggestion.

Maybe you are condensing the part about the pitcher making the last out in the 9th inning because of the double switch.But Vaughn made the last out in the 9th inning when he hit into the DP. Vaughn would have been the runner on 2nd base and due up in the 10th was Grandal, Garcia, Hamilton and the pitcher's spot. He didn't want Vaughn on 2nd so TLR made a double switch inserting Lamb into the pitchers spot making him the 4th batter due up and Hendricks into Vaughn's spot thus making Hendricks the runner on 2nd. Guys left on the bench were Mendick, Collins, Eaton ( who was ailing with hamstring issues so not a serious option to pinch run had LaRussa chosen to pinch run for Vaughn). As far as I know though, their options in CF were limited to Garcia and Hamilton. With Eaton ailing maybe the Sox should have IL'd him and brought up a fresh body. The Sox did not bring up Luis Gonzalez nor the recently signed Brian Goodwin thus handicapping TLR options . TLR could've chosen to either let Vaughn run or pinch run for him with his only real choice which was Mendick . That would leave Collins , Lamb and Eaton on the bench with the pitcher spot due up 4th. He also could've made the double switch with the rules allowing for Abreu to run in place of the pitcher. Again not a great option for the lead runner. Let's say instead of the double switch he used Mendick to pinch run . As the inning starts with Mendick on 2nd , Grandal walks. 1 and 2nd no outs. Leury AB ,choices are sac bunt or let him hit. Leury hasn't shown he is a good bunter having attempted 2 earlier in the season and getting neither one down. Leury is fast but anybody can hit into a ground ball DP if hit to the right spot or perhaps TLR should've bunted to get the lead run to 3rd base with 1 out and Grandal to 2nd. Maybe LaRussa chose not to bunt there because he put an inexperienced runner on 2nd base. If Mendick is on 2nd is the bunt more of an option ? Even with a successful bunt you still have Hamilton coming up with men on 2nd and 3rd with 1 out. Then what ? Reds probably chose to pitch to him but what if you pinch hit Collins/Lamb for him do the Reds pitch to Collins/Lamb or walk him ? Remember if it's Mendick now on 3rd the pitchers spot is up next so do you burn the rest of you bench (except for Eaton). Anyway so Leury doesn't sac bunt and hits into a force out . Mendick now on 3rd, Leury on 1st . Options: let Hamilton swing away or try a suicide or safety squeeze or pinch hit for Hamilton with a slower batter more likely to hit into a DP but more likely to hit a sac fly or get a hit or give Leury a shot at stealing 2nd with the strong armed Tucker Barnhart behind the plate . Now if Mendick is on 3rd perhaps Barnhart doesnt throw through to 2nd base but with Hendriks on 3rd a throw is more likely since the threat of Hendriks stealing home are not high. If the attempted steal is successful now 1st base is open . Reds more than likely pitch to Hamilton hoping for the K , but do they pitch to Collin/Lamb if they pinch hit ? Don't try the steal at all and Hamilton can still try the bunt . As far as i remember Hamilton isn't a bad bunter.If Hamilton is pinch hit for it opens up a whole new set options for the Reds manager to do but at least we have one of Collins or Lamb left to hit in the pitchers spot if there is no double play . If you don't even attempt the steal , you risk the DP if Hamilton swings away but highly unlikely with his speed. You pinch hit for him and the DP risk is much higher with either Collins or Lamb. If you suicide or safety squeeze with Hamilton tthat's a tough choice too Anyway the purpose of this I suppose is to see what a large array of things that could happen and why some love NL baseball because there is so much strategy involved . A manager has to be at the top of his game especially in extra innings with the runner on 2nd rules. The choice of the double switch with Hendriks running set up the rest of his calls for that inning all of which turned out poorly .

Ok Now I'm really starting to believe our one certain poster is Bernstein because now thats 2 examples that the poster has used about the use of "we" and now the karma thing.