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Let the grand experiment to find a decent 5th starter commence.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Apr 24, 2016 -> 02:27 PM) He was released and signed to a minors deal by Sox though, not claimed. Not sure he gets an option back, doubt it, just wanted to confirm. So let me get this straight. If Gonzalez bombs he can't be sent back down and it's either keep him on the Sox roster or put him on waivers again ? Logically then,if that is the case , he'll be getting a few more starts until it's determined he has use or is useless.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Apr 24, 2016 -> 01:41 PM) Jose Abreu? Adam Eaton? He's talking about position player prospects . It's always best to read the thread before jumping in

QUOTE (chi4lyfe @ Apr 24, 2016 -> 02:05 PM) Niiiiiice homestand, boys! Welcome and OH HELL YEAAH !

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QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 24, 2016 -> 01:56 PM) I fought the Lawrie the Lawrie won Is that the Bobby Fuler Four, Clash or Green Day version ?

Great 2 out knock by Lawrie then a great play by Beltre on Sands.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 24, 2016 -> 01:02 PM) I bet Jhan is friends with Jhonny Peralta. I like it.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Apr 24, 2016 -> 12:37 PM) Thank you Prince.... now (wait fot it)......... Let's go crazy ! My best work ignored after the Prince DP . Let's Go Crazy get it? A Prince song . Too soon? Never mind , carry on.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 24, 2016 -> 12:49 PM) Why was he not tagging and going halfway? Soon as the ball missed the cutoff he should have been into 2nd. Not good running and compounded by the awful decision to go for it once he saw the bobble. Can't go halfway that's way too far off 1st, if it gets cut you're dead.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 24, 2016 -> 12:44 PM) I think Sands thought that ball was going to the screen. The umpire blocked the ball at the plate though. Actually it hit Lawrie maybe both but I know it hit Lawrie so not totally Sands fault.

Thank you Prince.... now (wait fot it)......... Let's go crazy !

QUOTE (wizeguy57 @ Apr 24, 2016 -> 12:00 PM) Rule of thumb in baseball is you give a team 50 games to see what you really have. I'm somewhat concerned with the lack of hitting but were only 18 games in. If this is still going on come the first of June then we can panic. What are you ... some kind if wise guy ?

QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Apr 24, 2016 -> 11:33 AM) I would rotate Melky with either Bruce or Markakis at DH and LF. I don't think that the Sox are going to be able to make big-impact deals later this summer because they don't have any tradable pieces in the minors. The only incentive that the Sox can give another team right now is eating the contract of a player that they don't want to pay anymore. I agree that ATL would have to eat some of Markakis' contract. The big problem at the Sox have right now is that they'll likely lose Ajax at free agency this winter, they'll lose Melky to free agency the following winter, and they have nobody in the minors who is projected to be able to step up by then. Avila and Navarro also on 1 year contracts as is Latos. Also lose Frazier and Lawrie the same year as Melky. Just don't see the Sox taking on too much more money with so many holes to fill in the next 2 years, unless its to take a stab at resigning Frazier and I wouldn't count on that.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Apr 22, 2016 -> 07:04 AM) Markakis might be an option as well. He has no pop, but he'd be a solid #2 hitter and the Braves would most likely eat a portion of his contract if the Sox gave them a prospect. Doubtful Atlanta would eat enough of that contract to interest the Sox in having Markakis through 2018. If they are going to pay for someone lets hope he can also field his position well as to not saddle the Sox with yet another DH type of player. We've all seen what good fielding brings to a team when combined with good pitching. Avi and Sands are already not very useful in that respect .

QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Apr 24, 2016 -> 10:02 AM) Morneau just had elbow surgery. I'd rather pick up the salary of a healthy, younger guy like Bruce or Markakis than roll the dice on Morneau to save a few bucks. I don't have a philosophical objection to trying an internal option, but none of these guys look like they're ready to consistently hit at the ML level and we need somebody to step in and produce right away. As long as we're not giving up Fulmer or Anderson, I don't object to trading for a proven vet in his prime. Bruce is a rental. Already have too many guys on 1 or 2 year terms. Prospects for rentals at this point after giving up so many is counterproductive to the health of the system. Bruce is a RF so you would move him to LF ? Cincinnati, in the Frazier trade, already seems to dislike our prospects and that was with Trayce , Montas, and M Johnson. Maye you DH him but the problem seems to lie in acquiring him especially given whatever competition there might be for him and Cincy not liking our guys. Rolling the dice on Morneau also means the team could make other deals.Maybe Morneau might not be ready until July but after missing most of last season he stepped right in the Rockies lineup and produced. Prefer his knowledge of the AL, his cost, no prospects given up and to have that saved "few bucks" as to not limit the Sox ability to make other moves that may crop up. Bruce is a cheaper option that Markakis but Markasis is signed through 2018 @ $11M per season so don't see the Sox acquiring him unless ATL eats some of that but then they'd want a better prospect. Pretty sure Markakis is not who the Sox had in mind for another 2 years after this one when they didn't offer Dexter Fowler that much for the same amount of time.I know LaRoche's salary was still around then but that's still a hefty price for a guy like Markasis .

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 24, 2016 -> 06:23 AM) Jerry Sands is a better DH option than Coats. Debatable . Is his defense better than Coats ? Would it hurt the team much to send Avi down or release Sands ? Probably not. Sands is 28 and out of options. Coats is 26 . Sands has played 1 inning in the OF this year . His brief stints in the majors don't show if he hits righties or lefties better.Maybe his minor league stats do . I do know Avi has had 58 PA's and Sands 17 , that needs to stop.Find out what we have in Sands or Coats. If one doesn't work try the other.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Apr 24, 2016 -> 02:05 AM) I haven't seen any updates on how he is recovering from the elbow surgery. The original prognosis was that he could start swinging a bat in June. Have you seen anything further on his progress and scheduled return? A healthy Morneau would look great in the middle of the lineup. No haven't seen anything since mid March on MLBTR . I do know that he was the only guy on MLBTR's top 50 free agents who didn't get a deal because of the elbow but there wasn't much interest in him before he decided to get the surgery.

QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 24, 2016 -> 09:05 AM) The Sox are really at the point with Danks of, "Are we better off giving somebody else these last 27-29 starts?" Once the answer is Yes, you release Danks and eat the money. I'm not sure they're there yet. Not sure that's going to happen as long as Latos gives them good starts and the bullpen keeps performing. The offense needs more help than the pitching staff.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 24, 2016 -> 08:33 AM) Oh boy, hope it's nothing relating to injury. You really need to work on your mind set. You're a great guy . Have never seen you be anything but gracious and poised but damn it doesn't always have to be worst case scenario as your 1st thought. I'm sure he's fine just a lot of games and one thing the Sox always do is try to protect Sale's arm as much as possible, It's actually quite admirable they do that, because one year the Sox will make the playoffs and Sale will have to pitch into a post season and then a season after that. The innings will pile up and they are just protecting the biggest asset they have,

QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Apr 23, 2016 -> 07:24 PM) If I were Hahn, I'd look to make a move sooner rather than later, when the bidding wars start. The Sox don't have enough in their minor league system to out-bid another team. I'm not too hot on Bruce (or Markakis), but I think that salary-dump players like those two might be the most realistic options for the Sox. The sooner the Reds and Braves move those guys, the more money they save, so there's some incentive to move them before the ASB. But I'm not sure if the savings are enough incentive to pass on getting potentially better prospect packages from other teams in July. I think it's imperative that those kinds of moves are not considered at all until an internal option like Coats is tried. Maybe the Sox system doesn't produce a guy like Manzara with Texas or a Piscotty or Grichuk with St. Louis but we will never know until they are given a shot .There's nothing to lose , they can always be sent back down. Then we can try Morneau. Those moves would not preclude other moves being made like taking on big salaries and giving up more prospects would.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Apr 24, 2016 -> 08:13 AM) While a productive LH bat might seem ideal as the replacement for Garcia, Lillian, I wouldn't get too caught up on that idea. A RH like, oh, I don't know, someone like Yoenis Cespedes and hIS sparkling .991 OPS would look just fine in the clean-up spot in our lineup. Now where can you find someone just like him! That is water under the bridge. Have to move on from that. I made it known I wanted Cespedes more than Gordon or Upton but the off season is over. Time to move on. Lillian is right. Maybe Hahn is working on it now. I still think if Morneau is available come June that is probably the earliest we can expect any front office moves and easily the best option . The only thing that bothers me is the deliberate nature of the front office.There is nothing wrong or panicky about making small moves now.How much more can Avi's confidence be shot by sending him down ? It actually might do him some good and in the long haul the team . Bottom line is we all want what's best for the team and shouldn't get caught up with personality conflicts. State your case ,make your arguments and counter arguments but for heavens sake let be mature enough to do all that with poise and grace. I will try to take my own advice as well.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Apr 22, 2016 -> 06:26 AM) Agreed. Any ideas? You know what I want; a middle of the order left handed bat. However, with Morneau and Ethier injured, who is left? I don't want Bruce. What would it take to get CarGo from the Rockies, and would you be willing to do it? Morneau will be ready some time in June apparently. He still seems like the best option pre trade deadline if you take cost ( cheap)need ( left handed with power, back up 1st base, decent fielder),and ability into consideration.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 23, 2016 -> 06:10 PM) I agree with, he's definitely overrated around here IMO. Having said that, he still might be a better option than Avi. Might be? Avi is in such a dense fog right now and others may say has been in that fog his whole career. Sure Coats is overrated but he's the only position player on Charlotte worth talking about because of outstanding numbers (apologies to Smith and Sanchez).

QUOTE (aryzner @ Apr 22, 2016 -> 09:36 PM) It was indeed terrible baserunning but great execution by the Sox in my opinion. Looked like Saladino could've easily run down Fielder which would make the last 2 throws unnecesary but still well executed.